From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1HusyE-0007ov-Gj for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 03 Jun 2007 16:30:23 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l53GT8fF007690; Sun, 3 Jun 2007 16:29:08 GMT Received: from smtp11.unit.tiscali.de (smtp11.unit.tiscali.de [213.205.33.47]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l53GOv8S003075 for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2007 16:24:57 GMT Received: from homer_gentoo64.phheimnetz (77.130.151.27) by smtp11.unit.tiscali.de (7.3.121) (authenticated as florian.philipp@tiscali.de) id 464F39180021C600 for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Sun, 3 Jun 2007 18:24:56 +0200 From: Florian Philipp To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Linux becomes expensive ;) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2007 18:24:48 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <200706021955.27607.f.philipp@addcom.de> <200706031316.36376.f.philipp@addcom.de> <20070603110334.7253d8b7@pascal.spore.ath.cx> In-Reply-To: <20070603110334.7253d8b7@pascal.spore.ath.cx> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2864975.5FsWZX3LM9"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200706031824.52213.f.philipp@addcom.de> X-Archives-Salt: a4bbe065-0fe1-41fe-a274-04a042c92364 X-Archives-Hash: b6106121d3a3a69b0813c6c452629332 --nextPart2864975.5FsWZX3LM9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Am Sonntag 03 Juni 2007 18:03 schrieb Dan Farrell: > On Sun, 3 Jun 2007 13:16:33 +0200 > > Florian Philipp wrote: > > Am Samstag 02 Juni 2007 20:03 schrieb Jeff Horelick: > > > Florian, > > > > > > That's not that big of a difference...Also, Gentoo/Linux does not > > > have powersaving for every device like Windows XP...it's writing to > > > the hard drive more often and it doesn't spin as much down when > > > it's not in use to help performance. Also, if i was you, i'd be > > > worried about your system using that LITTLE energy especially since > > > you have a pretty hefty CPU, video card, motherboard, 2 hardrives > > > and al the rest of your components. > > > > > > On 6/2/07, Florian Philipp wrote: > > > > Hi guys! > > > > > > > > I've just tested the energy consumption of my PC. Aparently Gentoo > > > > consumes a > > > > quiet a bit more than Windows XP: 213 W compared to 188 W > > > > > > > > PowerNow is activated and works on both cores (tested). The same > > > > hardware is > > > > plugged in and works. I'll attach the output of lspci, lsmod and > > > > cpuinfo as > > > > well as my world-file just in case it's related to some software. > > > > > > > > Is there anything I've forgotten? Where does my energy go? > > > > > > > > A short overview of my hardware: > > > > > > > > AMD Athlon64 X2 4200+ EE > > > > Asus M2N32-SLI Deluxe (WLAN should be deactivated) > > > > 2048 MB DDR2 Corsair > > > > SoundBlaster Audigy 2 ZS > > > > ATI Radeon 1950 Pro (fglrx) > > > > 2 SATA2 HDDs > > > > 1 SATA1 DVD-RAM > > > > Floppy > > > > USB mouse, keyboard and printer > > > > TFT screen (connected via DVI) > > > > Well, I've forgotten to mention that I didn't substract all > > peripheral devices. My new calculations (idle, nothing but the big > > black box under my desk): Linux 137W, Win 114W (20% or 18EUR / 20$ > > p.a.). > > > > It seems I can't disable my onboard WLAN completely and while Win > > deactivates it because I don't provide drivers, Linux gives it some > > power although no software is accessing it. > > > > By the way: Maximum output while testing with 3DMark 2006: 219W. I > > wonder why I had to buy a 400W power supply... > > Maybe you can power off the wlan with a wireless-utils program, or > maybe by unloading the kernel module? > > Have you set up power management, powersave frequency governors? Have > you set up your disk(s) to idle quickly? There is no kernel module. I'll play around with modules, configs and tools= =20 later. It's not urgent, it was more like a mystery that I wanted to solve. Yes, powermanagement (aka "PowerNow!") is activated. No, my disks do not sp= in=20 down and should not because of the attrition (I hope that's the right word)= =20 that comes with spinning up. Anyway, thanks for your input, guys! --nextPart2864975.5FsWZX3LM9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBGYutRCBEaaFO6I+ARAteBAJ4pHryauB9nr+z5dJyMcL6h+fdywgCfdvtn 8FpETRZe9O+vYd7OrD3hVXM= =OE5Y -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2864975.5FsWZX3LM9-- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list