[gentoo-user] what games can I play on my 845G video card?

[gentoo-user] what games can I play on my 845G video card?

[Chuanwen Wu]

Hi,guys!
I want to play games on my machine.Here is the information of my video
card in "lspci":

VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE
Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03)

I have tried to play some games,like neverputt,which is so SLOW.The
corresponding time is long and the cpu usage is always 100%.

Can you recommend some games that maybe I can play on my machine smoothly ?
And maybe you can tell me how to configurate my xorg.conf or anything
else to optimize my machine when I play games.

Thanks in advanced!
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Re: [gentoo-user] what games can I play on my 845G video card?

[Dan Farrell]

On Sat, 19 May 2007 18:40:33 +0800
"Chuanwen Wu" <wcw8410@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,guys!
> I want to play games on my machine.Here is the information of my video
> card in "lspci":
> 
> VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE
> Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03)
> 
> I have tried to play some games,like neverputt,which is so SLOW.The
> corresponding time is long and the cpu usage is always 100%.
> 
> Can you recommend some games that maybe I can play on my machine
> smoothly ? And maybe you can tell me how to configurate my xorg.conf
> or anything else to optimize my machine when I play games.
> 
> Thanks in advanced!
Are you hardware accellerated?  Check with glxinfo.  I bet you can play
more than you think.
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Re: [gentoo-user] what games can I play on my 845G video card?

[Chuanwen Wu]

2007/5/19, Dan Farrell <dan@spore.ath.cx>:
> On Sat, 19 May 2007 18:40:33 +0800
> "Chuanwen Wu" <wcw8410@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi,guys!
> > I want to play games on my machine.Here is the information of my video
> > card in "lspci":
> >
> > VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE
> > Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03)
> >
> > I have tried to play some games,like neverputt,which is so SLOW.The
> > corresponding time is long and the cpu usage is always 100%.
> >
> > Can you recommend some games that maybe I can play on my machine
> > smoothly ? And maybe you can tell me how to configurate my xorg.conf
> > or anything else to optimize my machine when I play games.
> >
> > Thanks in advanced!
> Are you hardware accellerated?  Check with glxinfo.  I bet you can play
> more than you think.

Here is the output of glxinfo:

 $ glxinfo
name of display: :0.0
display: :0  screen: 0
direct rendering: No
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.2
server glx extensions:
    GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating,
    GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap, GLX_OML_swap_method,
    GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_hyperpipe,
    GLX_SGIX_swap_barrier, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer
client glx vendor string: SGI
client glx version string: 1.4
client glx extensions:
    GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context,
    GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_MESA_allocate_memory,
    GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer, GLX_MESA_swap_control,
    GLX_MESA_swap_frame_usage, GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_OML_sync_control,
    GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGI_swap_control, GLX_SGI_video_sync,
    GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_pbuffer,
    GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap
GLX version: 1.2
GLX extensions:
    GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context,
    GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer,
    GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGIS_multisample,
    GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap
OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
OpenGL version string: 1.4 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.2)
OpenGL extensions:
    GL_ARB_depth_texture, GL_ARB_draw_buffers, GL_ARB_fragment_program,
    GL_ARB_imaging, GL_ARB_multisample, GL_ARB_multitexture,
    GL_ARB_occlusion_query, GL_ARB_point_parameters, GL_ARB_point_sprite,
    GL_ARB_shadow, GL_ARB_shadow_ambient, GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp,
    GL_ARB_texture_compression, GL_ARB_texture_cube_map,
    GL_ARB_texture_env_add, GL_ARB_texture_env_combine,
    GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar, GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3,
    GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat, GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two,
    GL_ARB_texture_rectangle, GL_ARB_transpose_matrix, GL_ARB_vertex_program,
    GL_ARB_window_pos, GL_EXT_abgr, GL_EXT_bgra, GL_EXT_blend_color,
    GL_EXT_blend_equation_separate, GL_EXT_blend_func_separate,
    GL_EXT_blend_logic_op, GL_EXT_blend_minmax, GL_EXT_blend_subtract,
    GL_EXT_clip_volume_hint, GL_EXT_copy_texture, GL_EXT_draw_range_elements,
    GL_EXT_fog_coord, GL_EXT_framebuffer_object, GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays,
    GL_EXT_packed_pixels, GL_EXT_paletted_texture, GL_EXT_point_parameters,
    GL_EXT_polygon_offset, GL_EXT_rescale_normal, GL_EXT_secondary_color,
    GL_EXT_separate_specular_color, GL_EXT_shadow_funcs,
    GL_EXT_shared_texture_palette, GL_EXT_stencil_wrap, GL_EXT_subtexture,
    GL_EXT_texture, GL_EXT_texture3D, GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp,
    GL_EXT_texture_env_add, GL_EXT_texture_env_combine,
    GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3, GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias,
    GL_EXT_texture_mirror_clamp, GL_EXT_texture_object,
    GL_EXT_texture_rectangle, GL_EXT_vertex_array, GL_APPLE_packed_pixels,
    GL_ATI_draw_buffers, GL_ATI_texture_env_combine3,
    GL_ATI_texture_mirror_once, GL_ATIX_texture_env_combine3,
    GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repeat, GL_INGR_blend_func_separate,
    GL_MESA_pack_invert, GL_MESA_ycbcr_texture, GL_NV_blend_square,
    GL_NV_fragment_program, GL_NV_light_max_exponent, GL_NV_point_sprite,
    GL_NV_texgen_reflection, GL_NV_texture_rectangle, GL_NV_vertex_program,
    GL_NV_vertex_program1_1, GL_SGI_color_matrix, GL_SGI_color_table,
    GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap, GL_SGIS_texture_border_clamp,
    GL_SGIS_texture_edge_clamp, GL_SGIS_texture_lod, GL_SGIX_depth_texture,
    GL_SGIX_shadow, GL_SGIX_shadow_ambient, GL_SUN_multi_draw_arrays

   visual  x  bf lv rg d st colorbuffer ax dp st accumbuffer  ms  cav
 id dep cl sp sz l  ci b ro  r  g  b  a bf th cl  r  g  b  a ns b eat
----------------------------------------------------------------------
0x23 24 tc  0 24  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  0  0 16  0  0  0  0  0  0 0 None
0x24 24 tc  0 24  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  0  0 16  8 16 16 16  0  0 0 None
0x25 24 tc  0 32  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  8  0 16  8 16 16 16 16  0 0 None
0x26 24 tc  0 32  0 r  .  .  8  8  8  8  0 16  8 16 16 16 16  0 0 None
0x27 24 dc  0 24  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  0  0 16  0  0  0  0  0  0 0 None
0x28 24 dc  0 24  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  0  0 16  8 16 16 16  0  0 0 None
0x29 24 dc  0 32  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  8  0 16  8 16 16 16 16  0 0 None
0x2a 24 dc  0 32  0 r  .  .  8  8  8  8  0 16  8 16 16 16 16  0 0 None

What  information show me that whether my hardware is accelerated or not?
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Re: [gentoo-user] what games can I play on my 845G video card?

[Dan Farrell]

On Sun, 20 May 2007 10:29:12 +0800
"Chuanwen Wu" <wcw8410@gmail.com> wrote:

> direct rendering: No

there it is, third line.  
Hey, looks like I have the same problem!  Perhaps we can figure it out
together.  
| 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation
| 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03)
| direct rendering: No
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Re: [gentoo-user] what games can I play on my 845G video card?

[Dale]

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Dan Farrell wrote:
> On Sun, 20 May 2007 10:29:12 +0800
> "Chuanwen Wu" <wcw8410@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> direct rendering: No
>>     
>
> there it is, third line.  
> Hey, looks like I have the same problem!  Perhaps we can figure it out
> together.  
> | 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation
> | 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03)
> | direct rendering: No
>   

Well, I'm a Nvidia person myself but I did a little nosing around for
ya.  Maybe this will help:  x11-drivers/xf86-video-i810 

Also, don't forget to set VIDEO_CARDS="i810" which may pull in the
package above as a dependancy, I think.

And some neat info on the kernel config: 

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-557149-highlight-i810+driver.html

Hope some of that helps.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] what games can I play on my 845G video card?

[Dan Farrell]

On Sat, 19 May 2007 23:40:27 -0500
Dan Farrell <dan@spore.ath.cx> wrote:

> On Sun, 20 May 2007 10:29:12 +0800
> "Chuanwen Wu" <wcw8410@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > direct rendering: No
> 
> there it is, third line.  
> Hey, looks like I have the same problem!  Perhaps we can figure it out
> together.  

The kernel configuration (at least menuconfig, which I use) has 

| Device Drivers  --->  Character devices  ---> 
| <*> Direct Rendering Manager
|   <M>Intel 830M, 845G, 852GM, 855GM, 865G
|     <M>   i830 driver                                            
|     <M>   i915 driver

If you can't tell for formatting, i[0-9]{3} are in the category `Intel
830M..."  I had originally compiled them in, and you can only include
one or the other in the kernel.  I had chosen the i830. It was the wrong
choice -- an easy mistake, considering both list the 845G as supported
and the 830 happens to be first. 
	I recommend, if you haven't yet, compiling the kernel with the
Intel drm drivers as modules.  X will load the right one.  In
retrospect, the kernel help messege told me how.
	For what it's worth, you'll also have to have in xorg.conf:

| Section "Module"
|         Load  "glx"
|        Load  "dri"
| 	...
| EndSection
| 
| Section "DRI"
|	Mode    0666
| EndSection

And now the third line of glxinfo should show 'Yes'
| dan@pascal ~ $ glxinfo | grep direct
| direct rendering: Yes
and your glxgears will be nice and smooth, and, in my case, 67%
faster.  

Good luck. 


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Re: [gentoo-user] what games can I play on my 845G video card?

[Chuanwen Wu]

2007/5/20, Dale <dalek@exceedtech.net>:
>
>  Dan Farrell wrote:
>  On Sun, 20 May 2007 10:29:12 +0800
> "Chuanwen Wu" <wcw8410@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>  direct rendering: No
>
>  there it is, third line.
> Hey, looks like I have the same problem! Perhaps we can figure it out
> together.
> | 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation
> | 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03)
> | direct rendering: No
>
>
>  Well, I'm a Nvidia person myself but I did a little nosing around for ya.
> Maybe this will help:  x11-drivers/xf86-video-i810
>
>  Also, don't forget to set VIDEO_CARDS="i810" which may pull in the package
> above as a dependancy, I think.
>
>  And some neat info on the kernel config:
>
> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-557149-highlight-i810+driver.html
>
>  Hope some of that helps.
>
>  Dale
>
>  :-)  :-)  :-)  :-)
>

Thank you for your advice! I have use xf86-i810 driver and  now my
kernel config is the same as what you showed in the link.But still not
work.

$ glxinfo | grep rendering
direct rendering: No

And I open the game neverputt,it's still so slow.
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Re: [gentoo-user] what games can I play on my 845G video card?

[Dale]

Chuanwen Wu wrote:
>
>
> Thank you for your advice! I have use xf86-i810 driver and  now my
> kernel config is the same as what you showed in the link.But still not
> work.
>
> $ glxinfo | grep rendering
> direct rendering: No
>
> And I open the game neverputt,it's still so slow.
>
>

It looks like Dan has the same card.  Check his email and try what he
has posted.  If he works for him, you should have similar results. 
Maybe what I found is just a start.  :-(

Hope you get it going.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] what games can I play on my 845G video card?

[Zachary Grafton]

On Sunday 20 May 2007 02:19, Dale wrote:
> Dan Farrell wrote:
> > On Sun, 20 May 2007 10:29:12 +0800
> >
> > "Chuanwen Wu" <wcw8410@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> direct rendering: No
> >
> > there it is, third line.
> > Hey, looks like I have the same problem!  Perhaps we can figure it out
> > together.
> >
> > | 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation
> > | 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03)
> > | direct rendering: No
>
> Well, I'm a Nvidia person myself but I did a little nosing around for
> ya.  Maybe this will help:  x11-drivers/xf86-video-i810
>
> Also, don't forget to set VIDEO_CARDS="i810" which may pull in the
> package above as a dependancy, I think.
>
> And some neat info on the kernel config:
>
> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-557149-highlight-i810+driver.html
>
> Hope some of that helps.
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-)  :-)  :-)

I have a similar card, the 855GM and I was using the xf86-video-i810 package 
for a while without any problems, but after a recent update there was no way 
to get Direct Rendering working.  I switched back to using the kernel modules 
and it started working correctly.  Remember, if you use the xf86-video-i810 
package that you have to rebuild after every kernel rebuild and sometimes 
you'll also have to re-emerge the x11-drm package as well.  Also, a mesa 
upgrade had broken my direct rendering and a downgrade fixed it.  Another 
problem I had was leaving the Direct Rendering Manager option selected in the 
kernel config, but I had the xf86-video-i810 package installed, and that 
doesn't work as far as I know because of the different versions of agpgart.  
There are a ton of howtos available for the Intel cards, I'd recommend trying 
one at a time until you get it working.

A good command line for a quick check is  "glx-info | grep direct"


Good Luck,

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Re: [gentoo-user] what games can I play on my 845G video card?

[Dale]

Zachary Grafton wrote:
>
>
> A good command line for a quick check is  "glx-info | grep direct"
>
>
> Good Luck,
>
> Zack Grafton
>   

I think you have a typo.  It should be "glxinfo | grep direct" without
the quotes of course.  That worked on my system at least.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] what games can I play on my 845G video card?

[Zachary Grafton]

On Sunday 20 May 2007 03:45, Dale wrote:
> Zachary Grafton wrote:
> > A good command line for a quick check is  "glx-info | grep direct"
> >
> >
> > Good Luck,
> >
> > Zack Grafton
>
> I think you have a typo.  It should be "glxinfo | grep direct" without
> the quotes of course.  That worked on my system at least.
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-)  :-)  :-)
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:) Sorry, it's late here.  At least you understood what I meant.  There just 
seems to be a lot of problems with the intel cards.  I've had this one for a 
while and I shudder at the thought of upgrading the kernel for fear of 
breaking my direct rendering.

Zack
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Re: [gentoo-user] what games can I play on my 845G video card?

[Dan Farrell]

On Sun, 20 May 2007 04:06:28 -0400
Zachary Grafton <zachary.grafton@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sunday 20 May 2007 03:45, Dale wrote:
> > Zachary Grafton wrote:
> > > A good command line for a quick check is  "glx-info | grep direct"
> > >
> > >
> > > Good Luck,
> > >
> > > Zack Grafton
> >
> > I think you have a typo.  It should be "glxinfo | grep direct"
> > without the quotes of course.  That worked on my system at least.
> >
> > Dale
> >
> > :-)  :-)  :-)  :-)
> >
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> :) Sorry, it's late here.  At least you understood what I meant.
> There just seems to be a lot of problems with the intel cards.  I've
> had this one for a while and I shudder at the thought of upgrading
> the kernel for fear of breaking my direct rendering.
> 
> Zack
Frankly, indirect rendering isn't much worse.  For me, xine now uses
15%+ of processor instead of 20%+.  But, to be fair, it's a diskless
system so processor has to do extra work for nfs and such.  
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Re: [gentoo-user] what games can I play on my 845G video card?

[Chuanwen Wu]

2007/5/20, Dan Farrell <dan@spore.ath.cx>:
> On Sat, 19 May 2007 23:40:27 -0500
> Dan Farrell <dan@spore.ath.cx> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 20 May 2007 10:29:12 +0800
> > "Chuanwen Wu" <wcw8410@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > direct rendering: No
> >
> > there it is, third line.
> > Hey, looks like I have the same problem!  Perhaps we can figure it out
> > together.
>
> The kernel configuration (at least menuconfig, which I use) has
>
> | Device Drivers  --->  Character devices  --->
> | <*> Direct Rendering Manager
> |   <M>Intel 830M, 845G, 852GM, 855GM, 865G
> |     <M>   i830 driver
> |     <M>   i915 driver
>

Thank you!This work for me too.Now I only choose i915 and compile as module.
It works much well now!

> If you can't tell for formatting, i[0-9]{3} are in the category `Intel
> 830M..."  I had originally compiled them in, and you can only include
> one or the other in the kernel.  I had chosen the i830. It was the wrong
> choice -- an easy mistake, considering both list the 845G as supported
> and the 830 happens to be first.
>         I recommend, if you haven't yet, compiling the kernel with the
> Intel drm drivers as modules.  X will load the right one.  In
> retrospect, the kernel help messege told me how.
>         For what it's worth, you'll also have to have in xorg.conf:
>
> | Section "Module"
> |         Load  "glx"
> |        Load  "dri"
> |       ...
> | EndSection
> |
> | Section "DRI"
> |       Mode    0666
> | EndSection
>
> And now the third line of glxinfo should show 'Yes'
> | dan@pascal ~ $ glxinfo | grep direct
> | direct rendering: Yes
> and your glxgears will be nice and smooth, and, in my case, 67%
> faster.
>
> Good luck.
>
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Re: [gentoo-user] what games can I play on my 845G video card?

[Dan Farrell]

On Sun, 20 May 2007 17:28:51 +0800
"Chuanwen Wu" <wcw8410@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thank you!This work for me too.Now I only choose i915 and compile as
> module. It works much well now!

Hurrah!  We both had success.  Have fun putting or whatnot.  
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