From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1Hozt1-0003DG-RA for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 18 May 2007 10:40:40 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l4IAcRV3007017; Fri, 18 May 2007 10:38:27 GMT Received: from desiato.localdomain (82-69-83-178.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk [82.69.83.178]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l4IAVNMZ030561 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 10:31:24 GMT Received: from zaphod.digimed.co.uk (zaphod.digimed.co.uk [192.168.1.1]) by desiato.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78AC712CEE4 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 11:31:22 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 11:29:39 +0100 From: Neil Bothwick To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo gets as bad SuSE: Circular dependencies [WAS: Thank you Gentoo devs] Message-ID: <20070518112939.0b67b7e2@zaphod.digimed.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20070517160321.GB16099@nibiru.local> References: <2fcf3fa50705151356xa11afaem4efd2a58a2d13442@mail.gmail.com> <464A9A30.9060707@omesc.com> <2fcf3fa50705160551g61ec4fb0g241675da8061d873@mail.gmail.com> <20070516142312.GA31409@nibiru.local> <20070516155413.1d50da26@hactar.digimed.co.uk> <20070516154736.GA18410@nibiru.local> <20070516231729.3acfc4cf@hactar.digimed.co.uk> <20070517160321.GB16099@nibiru.local> Organization: Digital Media Production X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.9.2cvs9 (GTK+ 2.10.12; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-GPG-Fingerprint: 7260 0F33 97EC 2F1E 7667 FE37 BA6E 1A97 4375 1903 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Sig_klEqMGXZb22LDU_k.CWLgAs; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 X-Archives-Salt: 75cae797-8b25-49c0-931d-4d03429ff60f X-Archives-Hash: 805a7384b15e4b9db7cb7d8b5ba3eac5 --Sig_klEqMGXZb22LDU_k.CWLgAs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 17 May 2007 18:03:21 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > > If A depends on B and B depends on A, you build A without support=20 > > for B, then you can safely install B and A again with the features=20 > > you wanted.=20 >=20 > Great idea. Lots of redundant compiles and manual work just because > unclean dependencies. Lots? This new install has over 1000 packages on it, there was exactly one circular depends, brought about by my changing USE flags too much. It took around a minute to fix. If you are really that limited for CPU cycles that this is a problem, I suggest you should not be using a source based distro. > Let's see if we get the driver API moved out to its own package, > so we it'll be some bit clearer (could also make licensing issues > some bit easier), but that's another story. Yes, and one for the XOrg list, since Gentoo's policy is to stay as lose to upstream as is feasible. > It *P*DEPENDs on them. That's an (strange) kind of special dependency > which is pulled in *after* install, instead of *before*. But still=20 > it is an dependency. >=20 > So, Xserver dependens on driver(s), drivers depend on Xserver.=20 > Circular dependency. no ot doesn't, it PDEPENDS on them, thereby removing any circular dependency. > q.e.d. Quite Erroneous Debate? > > Jakub is no longer a bug-wrangler, or a dev, he retired last month. >=20 > Ah, good things still happen ? ;P Jakub was very good at his job, but he does have an attitude problem. Are you trying to emulate him, you are already halfway there? --=20 Neil Bothwick If at first you do succeed, try to hide your astonishment. --Sig_klEqMGXZb22LDU_k.CWLgAs Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGTYAWum4al0N1GQMRAntYAKC3N9PzqPEXTDeUJYAztaMUBXG5IACgs4sm 7rT8AmraP0/jsg497Fjc2nQ= =Qik2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_klEqMGXZb22LDU_k.CWLgAs-- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list