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From: Enrico Weigelt <weigelt@metux.de>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo gets as bad SuSE: Circular dependencies [WAS: Thank you Gentoo devs]
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 17:46:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070517154641.GA16099@nibiru.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200705161817.13403.bo.andresen@zlin.dk>

* Bo Ørsted Andresen <bo.andresen@zlin.dk> wrote:

<snip>

> *What* are you talking about? PDEPENDs are packages that should be emerged 
> *after* the package in question. That A depends on B to be emerged *after* A 
> and B depends on A to be emerged *before* B does not produce a circular 
> dependency!

In some situations they're in fact circular, ie. when using binary
packages. 

BTW: I don't see any reason why the whole Xserve should be recompiled
if just some other device driver is needed.

> The PDEPEND of xorg-server is a convenience for the user to only need to set 
> VIDEO_CARDS and INPUT_DEVICES (or stick with the defaults) and have 
> xorg-server pull in only the requested drivers after itself.

Why not simply an virtual for that ?
I did it in my overlay, and it works very fine.

<snip>

> > If you want some package which pulls in an complete Xserver installation
> > *and* drivers (based on certain useflags), why not just an virtual
> > package ?
> 
> virtuals are similar to meta packages (if you look at their contents) 
> with one very important difference.
> 
> virtuals provide a minimal functionality that other packages can 
> depend on without caring about what provides it. meta packages 
> are a convenience to the users that pulls in a bunch of packages 
> and hence nothing is allowed to depend on them.

meta or virtual - where's the technical difference ? 

I don't care about how you call them, but pulling in the drivers
should not belong to the server package, but an separate one.


cu
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  reply	other threads:[~2007-05-17 15:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-04 10:37 [gentoo-user] xorg-7.2 and ati-drivers-8.32.5 Remy Blank
2007-05-07 13:12 ` marco restelli
     [not found]   ` <f1nd4o$17g$1@sea.gmane.org>
2007-05-07 14:37     ` [gentoo-user] " Remy Blank
2007-05-07 15:11       ` Francisco Rivas
2007-05-08 14:14         ` Dmitry
2007-05-08 14:35           ` Francisco Rivas
2007-05-07 14:53     ` Francisco Rivas
2007-05-07 16:09       ` Grant Edwards
2007-05-07 18:00         ` Francisco Rivas
2007-05-07 18:32           ` Grant Edwards
2007-05-07 18:44             ` Francisco Rivas
     [not found] ` <f2d5ap$t7j$1@sea.gmane.org>
2007-05-15 20:56   ` [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-7.2 and ati-drivers-8.32.5 - Thank you Gentoo devs Francisco Rivas
2007-05-16  5:44     ` Johannes Skov Frandsen
2007-05-16 12:51       ` Francisco Rivas
2007-05-16 12:59         ` Remy Blank
2007-05-16 14:23           ` [gentoo-user] Gentoo gets as bad SuSE: Circular dependencies [WAS: Thank you Gentoo devs] Enrico Weigelt
2007-05-16 14:54             ` Neil Bothwick
2007-05-16 15:47               ` Enrico Weigelt
2007-05-16 16:17                 ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2007-05-17 15:46                   ` Enrico Weigelt [this message]
2007-05-16 16:34                 ` Rob Rutherford
2007-05-16 22:17                 ` Neil Bothwick
2007-05-17 13:44                   ` [OT] Jakub back? (was: Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo gets as bad SuSE: Circular dependencies [WAS: Thank you Gentoo devs]) Naga Toro
2007-05-17 13:59                     ` Bryan Østergaard
2007-05-17 16:03                   ` [gentoo-user] Gentoo gets as bad SuSE: Circular dependencies [WAS: Thank you Gentoo devs] Enrico Weigelt
2007-05-17 17:21                     ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2007-05-18 10:29                     ` Neil Bothwick
2007-05-19  3:00                       ` Kent Fredric
2007-05-20 16:49                         ` Enrico Weigelt
2007-05-20 17:55                           ` Neil Bothwick
2007-05-30 15:43                             ` [gentoo-user] Re: Xserver @ oss-qm overlay [WAS: Gentoo gets as bad SuSE: Circular dependencies ...] Enrico Weigelt
2007-05-20 23:32                           ` [gentoo-user] Gentoo gets as bad SuSE: Circular dependencies [WAS: Thank you Gentoo devs] Neil Walker
2007-05-21  1:15                           ` kashani
2007-05-21  9:57                         ` Andrey Gerasimenko
2007-05-21 10:44                           ` Alan McKinnon
2007-05-21 11:15                           ` Hans-Werner Hilse
2007-05-16 22:51                 ` kashani
2007-05-16 23:08                   ` Iain Buchanan
2007-05-17 23:19                     ` Mark Shields
2007-05-16 15:51               ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2007-05-16 22:04                 ` Neil Bothwick
2007-05-16 22:40                   ` Dale
2007-05-16 23:56                     ` Neil Bothwick
2007-05-17 16:10                 ` Enrico Weigelt
2007-05-17 17:20                   ` Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
2007-05-17 20:40                     ` Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
2007-05-17 18:21                   ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2007-05-16 21:31               ` Dan Farrell
2007-05-16 15:58             ` Francisco Rivas
2007-05-16 21:42             ` Jerry McBride
2007-05-16 21:57               ` Dale
2007-05-16 20:53   ` [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-7.2 and ati-drivers-8.32.5 - Thank you Gentoo devs Remy Blank
2007-05-16 21:01     ` Francisco Rivas
2007-05-17  8:39       ` [gentoo-user] Can't start apache Johannes Skov Frandsen
2007-05-17  9:00         ` Randy Barlow
2007-05-17  9:15           ` [gentoo-user] Can't start apache [solved] Johannes Skov Frandsen
2007-05-17 10:05             ` Johannes Skov Frandsen
2007-05-17 11:21               ` Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
2007-05-17 11:28                 ` Johannes Skov Frandsen
2007-05-17 12:33                   ` Johannes Skov Frandsen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-05-18  4:56 [gentoo-user] Gentoo gets as bad SuSE: Circular dependencies [WAS: Thank you Gentoo devs] burlingk
2007-05-18 10:01 ` Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
2007-05-18 17:35   ` Enrico Weigelt
2007-05-18 22:48 ` Neil Walker
2007-05-18 10:26 burlingk
2007-05-21  1:41 burlingk
2007-05-30 15:59 ` Enrico Weigelt

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