From: "Bo Ørsted Andresen" <bo.andresen@zlin.dk>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo gets as bad SuSE: Circular dependencies [WAS: Thank you Gentoo devs]
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 18:17:12 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200705161817.13403.bo.andresen@zlin.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070516154736.GA18410@nibiru.local>
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On Wednesday 16 May 2007 17:47:37 Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> > > Thank you for producing lots of circular dependencies
> > > (ie. in the Xserver), which make maintenance complicated.
> >
> > Lots? If you'd posted this yesterday, I would have been able to recall
> > the last time I was hit with one.
>
> At least several. I didn't find an good solution for checking
> the whole tree yet, so I yet know some. Good candidates are
> where PDEPENDs occour. For example the Xserver.
*What* are you talking about? PDEPENDs are packages that should be emerged
*after* the package in question. That A depends on B to be emerged *after* A
and B depends on A to be emerged *before* B does not produce a circular
dependency!
The PDEPEND of xorg-server is a convenience for the user to only need to set
VIDEO_CARDS and INPUT_DEVICES (or stick with the defaults) and have
xorg-server pull in only the requested drivers after itself.
> If you want some package which pulls in an complete Xserver installation
> *and* drivers (based on certain useflags), why not just an virtual
> package ?
virtuals are similar to meta packages (if you look at their contents) with one
very important difference.
virtuals provide a minimal functionality that other packages can depend on
without caring about what provides it. meta packages are a convenience to the
users that pulls in a bunch of packages and hence nothing is allowed to
depend on them.
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Bo Andresen
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-05-16 16:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-05-04 10:37 [gentoo-user] xorg-7.2 and ati-drivers-8.32.5 Remy Blank
2007-05-07 13:12 ` marco restelli
[not found] ` <f1nd4o$17g$1@sea.gmane.org>
2007-05-07 14:37 ` [gentoo-user] " Remy Blank
2007-05-07 15:11 ` Francisco Rivas
2007-05-08 14:14 ` Dmitry
2007-05-08 14:35 ` Francisco Rivas
2007-05-07 14:53 ` Francisco Rivas
2007-05-07 16:09 ` Grant Edwards
2007-05-07 18:00 ` Francisco Rivas
2007-05-07 18:32 ` Grant Edwards
2007-05-07 18:44 ` Francisco Rivas
[not found] ` <f2d5ap$t7j$1@sea.gmane.org>
2007-05-15 20:56 ` [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-7.2 and ati-drivers-8.32.5 - Thank you Gentoo devs Francisco Rivas
2007-05-16 5:44 ` Johannes Skov Frandsen
2007-05-16 12:51 ` Francisco Rivas
2007-05-16 12:59 ` Remy Blank
2007-05-16 14:23 ` [gentoo-user] Gentoo gets as bad SuSE: Circular dependencies [WAS: Thank you Gentoo devs] Enrico Weigelt
2007-05-16 14:54 ` Neil Bothwick
2007-05-16 15:47 ` Enrico Weigelt
2007-05-16 16:17 ` Bo Ørsted Andresen [this message]
2007-05-17 15:46 ` Enrico Weigelt
2007-05-16 16:34 ` Rob Rutherford
2007-05-16 22:17 ` Neil Bothwick
2007-05-17 13:44 ` [OT] Jakub back? (was: Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo gets as bad SuSE: Circular dependencies [WAS: Thank you Gentoo devs]) Naga Toro
2007-05-17 13:59 ` Bryan Østergaard
2007-05-17 16:03 ` [gentoo-user] Gentoo gets as bad SuSE: Circular dependencies [WAS: Thank you Gentoo devs] Enrico Weigelt
2007-05-17 17:21 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2007-05-18 10:29 ` Neil Bothwick
2007-05-19 3:00 ` Kent Fredric
2007-05-20 16:49 ` Enrico Weigelt
2007-05-20 17:55 ` Neil Bothwick
2007-05-30 15:43 ` [gentoo-user] Re: Xserver @ oss-qm overlay [WAS: Gentoo gets as bad SuSE: Circular dependencies ...] Enrico Weigelt
2007-05-20 23:32 ` [gentoo-user] Gentoo gets as bad SuSE: Circular dependencies [WAS: Thank you Gentoo devs] Neil Walker
2007-05-21 1:15 ` kashani
2007-05-21 9:57 ` Andrey Gerasimenko
2007-05-21 10:44 ` Alan McKinnon
2007-05-21 11:15 ` Hans-Werner Hilse
2007-05-16 22:51 ` kashani
2007-05-16 23:08 ` Iain Buchanan
2007-05-17 23:19 ` Mark Shields
2007-05-16 15:51 ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2007-05-16 22:04 ` Neil Bothwick
2007-05-16 22:40 ` Dale
2007-05-16 23:56 ` Neil Bothwick
2007-05-17 16:10 ` Enrico Weigelt
2007-05-17 17:20 ` Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
2007-05-17 20:40 ` Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
2007-05-17 18:21 ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2007-05-16 21:31 ` Dan Farrell
2007-05-16 15:58 ` Francisco Rivas
2007-05-16 21:42 ` Jerry McBride
2007-05-16 21:57 ` Dale
2007-05-16 20:53 ` [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-7.2 and ati-drivers-8.32.5 - Thank you Gentoo devs Remy Blank
2007-05-16 21:01 ` Francisco Rivas
2007-05-17 8:39 ` [gentoo-user] Can't start apache Johannes Skov Frandsen
2007-05-17 9:00 ` Randy Barlow
2007-05-17 9:15 ` [gentoo-user] Can't start apache [solved] Johannes Skov Frandsen
2007-05-17 10:05 ` Johannes Skov Frandsen
2007-05-17 11:21 ` Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
2007-05-17 11:28 ` Johannes Skov Frandsen
2007-05-17 12:33 ` Johannes Skov Frandsen
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-05-18 4:56 [gentoo-user] Gentoo gets as bad SuSE: Circular dependencies [WAS: Thank you Gentoo devs] burlingk
2007-05-18 10:01 ` Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
2007-05-18 17:35 ` Enrico Weigelt
2007-05-18 22:48 ` Neil Walker
2007-05-18 10:26 burlingk
2007-05-21 1:41 burlingk
2007-05-30 15:59 ` Enrico Weigelt
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