[gentoo-user] lots of broken/missing dependencies when starting w/ stage1

[gentoo-user] lots of broken/missing dependencies when starting w/ stage1

[Enrico Weigelt]

Hi folks,


after my notebook disk died, I started completely afresh with 
the newest stage1 (running within some bit aged knoppix). 

I remembered installing from stage1 quite easy: edit make.conf 
etc, run bootstrap.sh and then begin to emerge all your packages. 
But this didn't work: there seem to be many version and dependency
problems. I should have wrote evrything down, I can't remember 
them all ...

For example, openssh failed because openssl was missing. And 
emerge did not make any attempt to install it. So obviously
the dependency is missing. In fact the ebuild file does not
contain any dependency on openssl.

Another critical error was the toolchain killing itself. 
After installing the new gcc for my target (stage1 comes w/ 
*i486*, I set *i686* in make.conf), it wanted the binutils for
that platform, which were missing. So I had to copy them from
*i486* to be able to at least build the binutils. 

There were a lot of other problems which may be caused by 
those I described above.


cu
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Re: [gentoo-user] lots of broken/missing dependencies when starting w/ stage1

[Michal 'vorner' Vaner]

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Hello

On Mon, May 14, 2007 at 02:05:39PM +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> after my notebook disk died, I started completely afresh with 
> the newest stage1 (running within some bit aged knoppix). 

What I remember is that stage1 is no longer supported and is for
developers only. Theoretically, you can take i386, set your host to i686
and rebuild all, and you will get the same result.

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[gentoo-user] Re: lots of broken/missing dependencies when starting w/ stage1

[Enrico Weigelt]

Yet another error: 

While building coreutils, it fails when making tests/sort:

Can't locate auto/POSIX/assert.al

There's no assert.al nor an assert.pl file on my disk.


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[gentoo-user] Re: lots of broken/missing dependencies when starting w/ stage1

[Enrico Weigelt]

* Enrico Weigelt <weigelt@metux.de> wrote:
> 
> Yet another error: 
> 
> While building coreutils, it fails when making tests/sort:
> 
> Can't locate auto/POSIX/assert.al
> 
> There's no assert.al nor an assert.pl file on my disk.
> 

Obviously the tests fail. Is there any way to skip them 
(without touching the ebuild file) ?


IMHO, on normal installations (non-dev), they shouldn't be 
needed at all.


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Re: [gentoo-user] lots of broken/missing dependencies when starting w/ stage1

[Enrico Weigelt]

* Michal 'vorner' Vaner <vorner@ucw.cz> wrote:

Hi,

> What I remember is that stage1 is no longer supported and is for
> developers only. Theoretically, you can take i386, set your host 
> to i686 and rebuild all, and you will get the same result.

I had to take stage1, since the others require kernel 2.6.
kernel. But my (some bit aged) knoppix boot cd is still on 2.4.

I'm not in office now and don't have an burner available, 
otherwise I'd taken an recent gentoo install cd.


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RE: [gentoo-user] Re: lots of broken/missing dependencies when starting w/ stage1

[burlingk]

If the tests are failing, then perhaps they are needed even more.
Also, if you are building from a stage1, you are not dealing with
non-dev builds at all.
^^;;



-----Original Message-----
From: Enrico Weigelt [mailto:weigelt@metux.de] 
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 9:27 PM
To: gentoo-user
Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: lots of broken/missing dependencies when
starting w/ stage1


* Enrico Weigelt <weigelt@metux.de> wrote:
> 
> Yet another error:
> 
> While building coreutils, it fails when making tests/sort:
> 
> Can't locate auto/POSIX/assert.al
> 
> There's no assert.al nor an assert.pl file on my disk.
> 

Obviously the tests fail. Is there any way to skip them 
(without touching the ebuild file) ?


IMHO, on normal installations (non-dev), they shouldn't be 
needed at all.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: lots of broken/missing dependencies when starting w/ stage1

[Mick]

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On Monday 14 May 2007 13:27, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> * Enrico Weigelt <weigelt@metux.de> wrote:
> > Yet another error:
> >
> > While building coreutils, it fails when making tests/sort:
> >
> > Can't locate auto/POSIX/assert.al
> >
> > There's no assert.al nor an assert.pl file on my disk.
>
> Obviously the tests fail. Is there any way to skip them
> (without touching the ebuild file) ?

I have not seen a --no-test flag in emerge, but don't know if there is an 
undocumented option for this, or if it can be set as an ENV variable. There 
should be no harm in trying, but first someone more knowledgeable in the 
workings of gentoo better advise.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: lots of broken/missing dependencies when starting w/ stage1

[Enrico Weigelt]

* burlingk@cv63.navy.mil <burlingk@cv63.navy.mil> wrote:

Hi,

> If the tests are failing, then perhaps they are needed even more.

No, the tests fail because some perl modules are missing, which
are required to run the tests, but not for coreutils itself.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: lots of broken/missing dependencies when starting w/ stage1

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Mon, 14 May 2007 14:44:55 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote:

> No, the tests fail because some perl modules are missing, which
> are required to run the tests, but not for coreutils itself.

If the test is optional then FEATURES="-test" should skip it.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: lots of broken/missing dependencies when starting w/ stage1

[Enrico Weigelt]

* Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote:
> On Mon, 14 May 2007 14:44:55 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> 
> > No, the tests fail because some perl modules are missing, which
> > are required to run the tests, but not for coreutils itself.
> 
> If the test is optional then FEATURES="-test" should skip it.

Ah, I though is was enough, not adding "test" to FEATURES.
(in other words: it has to be enabled explicitly)


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: lots of broken/missing dependencies when starting w/ stage1

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Mon, 14 May 2007 15:14:40 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote:

> > If the test is optional then FEATURES="-test" should skip it.  
> 
> Ah, I though is was enough, not adding "test" to FEATURES.
> (in other words: it has to be enabled explicitly)

It should but you haven't posted your emerge --info. In this case, the
test must be explicitly enabled in the ebuild, which gives you two
choices: edit the ebuild or use a more up to date installation
environment.


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RE: [gentoo-user] Re: lots of broken/missing dependencies when starting w/ stage1

[burlingk]

If you have an active internet environment, use the knopix disk to
download an iso for one of the live CD's, such as the actual liveCD or
the minimal CD, and then burn to disk, and get the stage3 tarball.  Or,
if you are on a different machine now, use the machine you are on now to
get the ISO if you are able.

If you have enough of an internet connection to use emerge, then odds
are you can download files.


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Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: lots of broken/missing dependencies when
starting w/ stage1


On Mon, 14 May 2007 15:14:40 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote:

> > If the test is optional then FEATURES="-test" should skip it.
> 
> Ah, I though is was enough, not adding "test" to FEATURES. (in other 
> words: it has to be enabled explicitly)

It should but you haven't posted your emerge --info. In this case, the
test must be explicitly enabled in the ebuild, which gives you two
choices: edit the ebuild or use a more up to date installation
environment.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: lots of broken/missing dependencies when starting w/ stage1

[Enrico Weigelt]

* burlingk@cv63.navy.mil <burlingk@cv63.navy.mil> wrote:

Hi,

> If you have an active internet environment, use the knopix disk to
> download an iso for one of the live CD's, such as the actual liveCD or
> the minimal CD, and then burn to disk, and get the stage3 tarball.  

I would have done so, if I had an burner aailavailable right now ...

If I knew that bootstrapping had become so unstable and complicated, 
I did an complete backup instead of just the configs ;-O

Last time I did an fresh install (w/ 2006.1 stage1 image) it ran
through w/o major problems.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: lots of broken/missing dependencies when starting w/ stage1

[Michal 'vorner' Vaner]

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On Mon, May 14, 2007 at 01:44:49PM +0100, Mick wrote:
> On Monday 14 May 2007 13:27, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> > * Enrico Weigelt <weigelt@metux.de> wrote:
> > > Yet another error:
> > >
> > > While building coreutils, it fails when making tests/sort:
> > >
> > > Can't locate auto/POSIX/assert.al
> > >
> > > There's no assert.al nor an assert.pl file on my disk.
> >
> > Obviously the tests fail. Is there any way to skip them
> > (without touching the ebuild file) ?

emerge --skipfirst

> I have not seen a --no-test flag in emerge, but don't know if there is an 
> undocumented option for this, or if it can be set as an ENV variable. There 
> should be no harm in trying, but first someone more knowledgeable in the 
> workings of gentoo better advise.

man make.conf, section FEATURES

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