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* [gentoo-user] freetype-2.3.3 messed up my desktop
@ 2007-05-09 19:11 Mick
  2007-05-09 19:51 ` Nistor Andrei
  2007-05-11  3:40 ` Randy Barlow
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Mick @ 2007-05-09 19:11 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user


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Hi All,

Just updated my laptop and noticed that freetype-2.3.3 was installed.  
Restarted xorg and the font size and legibility of X apps changed for the 
worse.  The fonts are now considerably smaller, anti-aliasing makes them look 
really blurred, fixed-width font in Kmail is shown grey(!), etc.

Am I the only one that had this unwelcome (in my case) change?  I tried 
removing anti-aliasing for fonts 06-12ps, but then they looked rather jagged 
and extremely wiry (too thin).  I'd rather didn't change everything to bold, 
but fear that in five minutes I am going to get a migraine due to eye 
strain! :)

Is this the way it is supposed to look?

PS. In reality it looks more blurred that the attached picture, probably 
because of the low quality of the monitor.
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Regards,
Mick

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* Re: [gentoo-user] freetype-2.3.3 messed up my desktop
  2007-05-09 19:11 [gentoo-user] freetype-2.3.3 messed up my desktop Mick
@ 2007-05-09 19:51 ` Nistor Andrei
  2007-05-09 20:30   ` Elias Probst
  2007-05-11  3:40 ` Randy Barlow
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Nistor Andrei @ 2007-05-09 19:51 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On Wednesday 09 May 2007, Mick wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Just updated my laptop and noticed that freetype-2.3.3 was installed.
> Restarted xorg and the font size and legibility of X apps changed for the
> worse.  The fonts are now considerably smaller, anti-aliasing makes them
> look really blurred, fixed-width font in Kmail is shown grey(!), etc.
>
> Am I the only one that had this unwelcome (in my case) change?  I tried
> removing anti-aliasing for fonts 06-12ps, but then they looked rather
> jagged and extremely wiry (too thin).  I'd rather didn't change everything
> to bold, but fear that in five minutes I am going to get a migraine due to
> eye strain! :)
>
> Is this the way it is supposed to look?
They look ok to me... Maybe your resolution changed somehow (very unlikely...) 
I experienced similar problems with a 15 inch monitor that got a resolution 
bigger than what it could handle... But your screenshot is 1024x768 so unless 
you scaled it down, that would be my guess...

Maybe someone else has another idea?

> PS. In reality it looks more blurred that the attached picture, probably
> because of the low quality of the monitor.


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* Re: [gentoo-user] freetype-2.3.3 messed up my desktop
  2007-05-09 19:51 ` Nistor Andrei
@ 2007-05-09 20:30   ` Elias Probst
  2007-05-09 21:33     ` Mick
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Elias Probst @ 2007-05-09 20:30 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user


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On Wednesday 09 May 2007 21:51:51 Nistor Andrei wrote:
> On Wednesday 09 May 2007, Mick wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Just updated my laptop and noticed that freetype-2.3.3 was installed.
> > Restarted xorg and the font size and legibility of X apps changed for the
> > worse.  The fonts are now considerably smaller, anti-aliasing makes them
> > look really blurred, fixed-width font in Kmail is shown grey(!), etc.

I have this problem too.
After doing a
rm -rf /etc/font* /home/*/.font* && emerge freetype && X restart
font rendering was a little bit better, but there are still two issues (see 
also attached screenshots):
- The bullets of the password text input field in KDE are pixelized
- Konsole fonts have unconsistent fontkerning

See also this URLs for troubleshooting regarding freetype-2.3.3:
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-558045.html
http://wiki.gentoo-xeffects.org/Font_Rendering

Regards, Elias P.

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* Re: [gentoo-user] freetype-2.3.3 messed up my desktop
  2007-05-09 20:30   ` Elias Probst
@ 2007-05-09 21:33     ` Mick
  2007-05-09 22:08       ` Elias Probst
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Mick @ 2007-05-09 21:33 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

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On Wednesday 09 May 2007 21:30, Elias Probst wrote:
> On Wednesday 09 May 2007 21:51:51 Nistor Andrei wrote:
> > On Wednesday 09 May 2007, Mick wrote:
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > Just updated my laptop and noticed that freetype-2.3.3 was installed.
> > > Restarted xorg and the font size and legibility of X apps changed for
> > > the worse.  The fonts are now considerably smaller, anti-aliasing makes
> > > them look really blurred, fixed-width font in Kmail is shown grey(!),
> > > etc.
>
> I have this problem too.
> After doing a
> rm -rf /etc/font* /home/*/.font* && emerge freetype && X restart
> font rendering was a little bit better, but there are still two issues (see
> also attached screenshots):
> - The bullets of the password text input field in KDE are pixelized
> - Konsole fonts have unconsistent fontkerning
>
> See also this URLs for troubleshooting regarding freetype-2.3.3:
> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-558045.html
> http://wiki.gentoo-xeffects.org/Font_Rendering

Thank you very much!  The suggestions in the links and remerging fontconfig 
and freetype fixed it.  Phew!  I thought that I might have to get used to the 
eye-strain.  o_o

Unless the string you suggested above is wrong you may want to also emerge 
fontconfig to see if it makes any difference?

Thanks again.  :)
-- 
Regards,
Mick

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* Re: [gentoo-user] freetype-2.3.3 messed up my desktop
  2007-05-09 21:33     ` Mick
@ 2007-05-09 22:08       ` Elias Probst
  2007-05-10  7:29         ` Mick
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Elias Probst @ 2007-05-09 22:08 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

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On Thursday 10 May 2007 23:33:34 Mick wrote:
> Unless the string you suggested above is wrong you may want to also emerge
> fontconfig to see if it makes any difference?
>
> Thanks again.  :)

Oups, you're right.
"emerge fontconfig" did the trick for me! Ugly rendering of Konsole and 
password bullets has gone.

Regards, Elias P.

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* Re: [gentoo-user] freetype-2.3.3 messed up my desktop
  2007-05-09 22:08       ` Elias Probst
@ 2007-05-10  7:29         ` Mick
  2007-05-10 13:58           ` Elias Probst
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Mick @ 2007-05-10  7:29 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

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On Wednesday 09 May 2007 23:08, Elias Probst wrote:

> Oups, you're right.
> "emerge fontconfig" did the trick for me! Ugly rendering of Konsole and
> password bullets has gone.

Glad this helped.  :)

The only thing I noticed is that when I launch Konqueror as root it reverts to 
small fonts.
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Regards,
Mick

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* Re: [gentoo-user] freetype-2.3.3 messed up my desktop
  2007-05-10  7:29         ` Mick
@ 2007-05-10 13:58           ` Elias Probst
  2007-05-10 19:07             ` Mick
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Elias Probst @ 2007-05-10 13:58 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

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On Thursday 10 May 2007 09:29:54 Mick wrote:
> On Wednesday 09 May 2007 23:08, Elias Probst wrote:
> > Oups, you're right.
> > "emerge fontconfig" did the trick for me! Ugly rendering of Konsole and
> > password bullets has gone.
>
> Glad this helped.  :)
>
> The only thing I noticed is that when I launch Konqueror as root it reverts
> to small fonts.

Remove  "/root/.font*" too and restart X to make sure no cached konqueror 
session is still alive.

Regards, Elias P.

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* Re: [gentoo-user] freetype-2.3.3 messed up my desktop
  2007-05-10 13:58           ` Elias Probst
@ 2007-05-10 19:07             ` Mick
  2007-05-11 11:08               ` Alan McKinnon
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Mick @ 2007-05-10 19:07 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

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On Thursday 10 May 2007 14:58, Elias Probst wrote:
> On Thursday 10 May 2007 09:29:54 Mick wrote:
> > On Wednesday 09 May 2007 23:08, Elias Probst wrote:
> > > Oups, you're right.
> > > "emerge fontconfig" did the trick for me! Ugly rendering of Konsole and
> > > password bullets has gone.
> >
> > Glad this helped.  :)
> >
> > The only thing I noticed is that when I launch Konqueror as root it
> > reverts to small fonts.
>
> Remove  "/root/.font*" too and restart X to make sure no cached konqueror
> session is still alive.

I've already tried that but it doesn't work.  :(

Also noticed that OpenOffice fonts look odd, but I think these are Gtk 
controlled?
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Regards,
Mick

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* Re: [gentoo-user] freetype-2.3.3 messed up my desktop
  2007-05-09 19:11 [gentoo-user] freetype-2.3.3 messed up my desktop Mick
  2007-05-09 19:51 ` Nistor Andrei
@ 2007-05-11  3:40 ` Randy Barlow
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Randy Barlow @ 2007-05-11  3:40 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

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Mick wrote:
> Is this the way it is supposed to look?

Your attached picture looks fine to me, but I'm not sure what you were
comparing it to...

R

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* Re: [gentoo-user] freetype-2.3.3 messed up my desktop
  2007-05-10 19:07             ` Mick
@ 2007-05-11 11:08               ` Alan McKinnon
  2007-05-11 17:54                 ` Mick
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Alan McKinnon @ 2007-05-11 11:08 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On Thursday 10 May 2007, Mick wrote:
> Also noticed that OpenOffice fonts look odd, but I think these are
> Gtk controlled?

No, Open Office uses it's own font rendering engine

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* Re: [gentoo-user] freetype-2.3.3 messed up my desktop
  2007-05-11 11:08               ` Alan McKinnon
@ 2007-05-11 17:54                 ` Mick
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Mick @ 2007-05-11 17:54 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

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On Friday 11 May 2007 12:08, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Thursday 10 May 2007, Mick wrote:
> > Also noticed that OpenOffice fonts look odd, but I think these are
> > Gtk controlled?
>
> No, Open Office uses it's own font rendering engine

Thanks Alan,

Would the OOo rendering engine work with freetype?  I am sure it changed its 
anti-aliasing since the freetype was updated.
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Mick

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