From: felix@crowfix.com
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Why are gentoo people so in love with colorizedoutput?!?
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 13:57:40 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070404205740.GA26182@crowfix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200704042227.48244.harmgeerts@home.nl>
On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 10:27:48PM +0200, Harm Geerts wrote:
> Would you please show a little respect to the people who developed
> the software you use every day.
I have found that people are fine, it is groups of people who cause
the problems in the world. The gentoo dev community has a reputation
of releasing untested code, and when I mention a couple of severe
cases that shouldn't have even gotten near the door, let alone out of
it, I am told the ~ platform is testing. No it is not, or should not
be; it is one thing to release new features which may or may not be
finished, but entirely different to release untested code. Maybe
getdelta is not from the core community; but did no one in the core
community think it good to report their changes? When the first
colors were added to emerge, did no one think hard coded magic
constants were wrong? When devs think it good to colorize everybody's
terminal without regard to long established UNIX custom of using just
simple plain text, I am told that gentoo is not UNIX. Good grief,
what an attitude!
You personally probably don't deserve any criticism. But the gentoo
dev community certainly does. That's the real world. Republicans
lost the 2006 elections because they were tainted with the policies of
their president and their party and because they preferred to stand by
their man in a confused idea of loyalty to a person rather than to
their principles. Democrats lost the 1994 elections ditto. No doubt
there were otherwise decent Nazis and Communists who were horrified at
what the party did but did not stand up when it might have made a
difference. No doubt there have been decent people of all stripes who
didn't personally deserve the criticism of whatever groups they
joined.
When the gentoo dev community stops spouting nonsense about gentoo is
not unix, stops pointing fingers at third party software which was
written to work with gentoo software, and stops blaming users for
preferring white backgrounds, then they will have earned some respect.
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2007-04-04 4:17 [gentoo-user] Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!? felix
2007-04-04 4:29 ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2007-04-04 5:13 ` felix
2007-04-04 5:36 ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2007-04-04 6:19 ` Graham Murray
2007-04-04 6:22 ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2007-04-05 17:07 ` Mick
2007-04-05 19:07 ` Tony Stohne
2007-04-05 19:14 ` Tony Stohne
2007-04-05 19:22 ` Tony Stohne
2007-04-06 15:44 ` Mick
2007-04-06 18:34 ` Tony Stohne
2007-04-07 17:26 ` Dan Farrell
2007-04-07 19:32 ` Tony Stohne
2007-04-07 23:07 ` [gentoo-user] sylpheed claws quotes colourisation (was: Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!?) Renat Golubchyk
2007-04-08 1:39 ` Dan Farrell
2007-04-08 8:36 ` [gentoo-user] Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!? Neil Bothwick
2007-04-08 15:40 ` Dan Farrell
2007-04-08 16:56 ` Neil Bothwick
2007-04-08 23:25 ` David Relson
2007-04-09 13:44 ` Dan Farrell
2007-04-06 5:48 ` W.Kenworthy
2007-04-06 6:14 ` Graham Murray
2007-04-06 8:19 ` Neil Bothwick
[not found] ` <200704061149.37793.benno.schulenberg@gmail.com>
2007-04-06 10:26 ` Paul Colquhoun
2007-04-08 13:24 ` [gentoo-user] " Alexander Skwar
2007-04-06 11:06 ` [gentoo-user] " Bo Ørsted Andresen
2007-04-06 16:03 ` Mick
2007-04-04 7:32 ` felix
2007-04-04 10:15 ` Andrey Gerasimenko
2007-04-04 10:27 ` Alexis Lahouze
2007-04-04 11:51 ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2007-04-04 13:09 ` Daniel Iliev
2007-04-04 13:21 ` [gentoo-user] " Alexander Skwar
2007-04-04 14:29 ` [gentoo-user] " Neil Bothwick
2007-04-04 15:53 ` felix
2007-04-04 16:19 ` [gentoo-user] Why are gentoo people so in love with colorizedoutput?!? Nelson, David J
2007-04-04 17:07 ` felix
2007-04-04 18:10 ` [gentoo-user] " Harm Geerts
2007-04-04 19:00 ` felix
2007-04-04 19:04 ` felix
2007-04-04 19:37 ` Neil Walker
2007-04-04 19:41 ` Neil Walker
2007-04-04 20:04 ` Dan Cowsill
2007-04-04 20:28 ` felix
2007-04-04 21:08 ` Dan Cowsill
2007-04-05 6:47 ` Alexander Skwar
2007-04-05 8:51 ` [gentoo-user] Why are gentoo people so in love withcolorizedoutput?!? Nelson, David J
2007-04-04 17:27 ` [gentoo-user] Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!? Bo Ørsted Andresen
2007-04-04 18:24 ` Neil Bothwick
2007-04-04 21:31 ` b.n.
2007-04-04 19:48 ` Neil Bothwick
2007-04-04 20:34 ` Benno Schulenberg
2007-04-05 1:02 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2007-04-05 6:28 ` [gentoo-user] " Alexander Skwar
[not found] ` <200704042140.21829.harmgeerts@home.nl>
[not found] ` <20070404195909.GA18762@crowfix.com>
2007-04-04 20:35 ` [gentoo-user] Re: Why are gentoo people so in love with colorizedoutput?!? Bo Ørsted Andresen
[not found] ` <200704042227.48244.harmgeerts@home.nl>
2007-04-04 20:57 ` felix [this message]
2007-04-04 21:23 ` Chris Scullard
2007-04-04 21:38 ` Neil Walker
2007-04-05 6:55 ` [gentoo-user] " Alexander Skwar
2007-04-05 7:09 ` [gentoo-user] " Mark Kirkwood
2007-04-05 10:02 ` Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
2007-04-05 21:26 ` b.n.
2007-04-05 6:51 ` [gentoo-user] " Alexander Skwar
2007-04-04 11:37 ` [gentoo-user] Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!? Bo Ørsted Andresen
2007-04-04 14:33 ` felix
2007-04-04 15:50 ` Neil Walker
[not found] ` <20070404155552.GB10689@crowfix.com>
2007-04-05 7:11 ` [gentoo-user] " Alexander Skwar
2007-04-16 19:13 ` [gentoo-user] " Bryan Whitehead
2007-04-04 4:33 ` Dale
2007-04-04 5:48 ` Roy Wright
2007-04-04 7:04 ` Neil Bothwick
2007-04-04 9:56 ` Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
2007-04-04 14:26 ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
2007-04-04 16:00 ` felix
2007-04-04 16:44 ` Neil Walker
2007-04-04 17:56 ` Grant Edwards
2007-04-04 18:12 ` felix
2007-04-04 19:15 ` Neil Walker
[not found] ` <ev0tob$4nk$1@sea.gmane.org>
2007-04-04 19:29 ` felix
2007-04-05 6:58 ` Alexander Skwar
2007-04-05 14:24 ` Grant Edwards
2007-04-05 14:35 ` Neil Bothwick
2007-04-05 14:45 ` Grant Edwards
2007-04-05 15:31 ` Ryan Curtin
2007-04-05 15:39 ` Neil Bothwick
2007-04-05 17:48 ` Grant Edwards
2007-04-05 18:28 ` Neil Bothwick
2007-04-05 19:52 ` Grant Edwards
2007-04-05 20:33 ` Christer Ekholm
2007-04-05 21:24 ` Neil Bothwick
2007-04-05 21:41 ` Grant Edwards
2007-04-05 22:28 ` Neil Bothwick
2007-04-05 22:29 ` b.n.
2007-04-05 16:14 ` Tony Stohne
2007-04-05 17:51 ` Grant Edwards
2007-04-05 18:26 ` Tony Stohne
2007-04-05 18:36 ` Tony Stohne
2007-04-06 16:18 ` Mick
2007-04-06 18:36 ` Tony Stohne
2007-04-05 18:33 ` Francesco Talamona
2007-04-05 18:47 ` Tony Stohne
2007-04-05 14:58 ` Grant Edwards
2007-04-07 18:08 ` Dan Farrell
2007-04-07 18:30 ` Mike Markowski
2007-04-07 20:52 ` Grant Edwards
2007-04-08 8:39 ` Neil Bothwick
2007-04-08 18:49 ` Mike Edenfield
2007-04-09 13:47 ` [gentoo-user] [OT] " Dan Farrell
2007-04-04 17:55 ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
2007-04-04 18:15 ` Neil Bothwick
2007-04-04 21:36 ` b.n.
2007-04-06 16:28 ` Mick
2007-04-04 16:20 ` [gentoo-user] " Rob Rutherford
2007-04-04 16:30 ` Jan Seeger
2007-04-05 6:38 ` Bertram Scharpf
[not found] ` <20070405144024.GA13528@crowfix.com>
2007-04-05 15:00 ` Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
2007-04-05 16:42 ` [gentoo-user] " »Q«
2007-06-10 13:38 ` FeatureRequest Was: Re: [gentoo-user] " Robert Welz
2007-06-10 20:06 ` Karl Haines
2007-06-10 21:29 ` Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
2007-06-10 22:07 ` Kevin O'Gorman
2007-06-10 22:23 ` Daniel Pielmeier
2007-06-10 22:32 ` [gentoo-user] Re: FeatureRequest Was: " Grant Edwards
2007-06-10 23:02 ` Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
2007-06-10 23:22 ` Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
2007-06-11 2:02 ` Dan Farrell
2007-06-10 23:24 ` FeatureRequest Was: Re: [gentoo-user] " Graham Murray
2007-06-11 3:40 ` Karl Haines
2007-06-11 10:02 ` Bertram Scharpf
2007-06-11 10:02 ` Bertram Scharpf
2007-06-11 7:53 ` [gentoo-user] Re: FeatureRequest Was: " Alexander Skwar
2007-06-19 11:40 ` Robert Welz
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