[gentoo-user] Accessibility, or, Purple writing on black is a REALLY BAD idea.

[gentoo-user] Accessibility, or, Purple writing on black is a REALLY BAD idea.

[Jeff Rollin]

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Hi list

I like the new look of the website, but how on Earth does anyone make any 
sense of the links? Purple on black is a really bad idea, and that's from 
someone who doesn't have any accessibility issues with websites.

Should this be filed as a bug?

Jeff
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[gentoo-user] Re: Accessibility, or, Purple writing on black is a REALLY BAD idea.

[Jeff Rollin]

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In the last episode, Jeff Rollin wrote:
JR> Hi list
JR>
JR> I like the new look of the website, but how on Earth does anyone make any
JR> sense of the links? Purple on black is a really bad idea, and that's from
JR> someone who doesn't have any accessibility issues with websites.
JR>
JR> Should this be filed as a bug?
JR>
JR> Jeff

Actually it's blue, isn't it (the purple is from the colour of my visited 
links). Still, it's not easy to read.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Accessibility, or, Purple writing on black is a REALLY BAD idea.

[Andrey Gerasimenko]

On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 18:07:15 +0400, Jeff Rollin <jeff.rollin@gmail.com>  
wrote:

> Hi list
>
> I like the new look of the website, but how on Earth does anyone make any
> sense of the links? Purple on black is a really bad idea, and that's from
> someone who doesn't have any accessibility issues with websites.
>
> Should this be filed as a bug?
>
> Jeff

Do you mean www.gentoo.org? If yes:

IMHO this should not be filed as a bug. The colors all over the page are  
consistent and the links, which are not exactly purple, are visible. Since  
they turn to light green when the mouse points at them it is impossible to  
click a wrong link.

I guess those who are new to www.gentoo.org will move the mouse over all  
links; the rest just click automatically.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Accessibility, or, Purple writing on black is a REALLY BAD idea.

[Dale]

Jeff Rollin wrote:
> In the last episode, Andrey Gerasimenko wrote:
>
> AG>
> AG> Do you mean www.gentoo.org? If yes:
> AG>
> AG> IMHO this should not be filed as a bug. The colors all over the page are
> AG> consistent and the links, which are not exactly purple, are visible.
>
> The colors are consistent, but the links are only visible against the light 
> background of the side, not against the top.
>  
>  Since AG> they turn to light green when the mouse points at them it is
>  impossible to AG> click a wrong link.
>
> That is obviously browser-dependent, since they don't change when I point to 
> them on mine. Besides, that is just bad design.
>
> AG>
> AG> I guess those who are new to www.gentoo.org will move the mouse over all
> AG> links; the rest just click automatically.
>
> I wouldn't bet on it; I'm not exactly a new visitor but I can never remember 
> the order of the links. Especially since the website design has just been 
> changed.
>
> Jeff
>
>   

Funny, I'm half blind and I can see them fine, without my glasses even. 
They even sort of stick out to me.  Then again, I'm weird anyway.  LOL

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Accessibility, or, Purple writing on black is a REALLY BAD idea.

[Thomas Wouters]

On Sunday 01 April 2007, Jeff Rollin wrote:
> Hi list
>
> I like the new look of the website, but how on Earth does anyone make any
> sense of the links? Purple on black is a really bad idea, and that's from
> someone who doesn't have any accessibility issues with websites.
>
> Should this be filed as a bug?
>
> Jeff

This has nothing to do with the accessibility of the website, it inflects the 
usability, which is something completely different.
What isn't accessible is the layout which is based on tables, changing this to 
div's will increase the accessibility and the opportunity to easily create 
new designs.
The menus are awfull, I mean, come on, <a> tags separated by pipes? Imagine 
what text to speech software would make from that... What's wrong with using 
<ul> which is basically made for this?

Anyway, if you want to talk about accessibility, the first thing you should do 
is ask yourself the question if you know what accessibility is. If the answer 
to that question is no, then stick with the term usability.

some guidelines to get the website more accessible: http://www.w3.org/WAI/

Greetings,

Thomas
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Re: [gentoo-user] Accessibility, or, Purple writing on black is a REALLY BAD idea.

[Jeff Rollin]

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Hi Thomas

In the last episode, Thomas Wouters wrote:
TW> On Sunday 01 April 2007, Jeff Rollin wrote:
TW> > Hi list
TW> >
TW> > I like the new look of the website, but how on Earth does anyone make
 any TW> > sense of the links? Purple on black is a really bad idea, and
 that's from TW> > someone who doesn't have any accessibility issues with
 websites. TW> >
TW> > Should this be filed as a bug?
TW> >
TW> > Jeff
TW>
TW> This has nothing to do with the accessibility of the website, it inflects
 the TW> usability, which is something completely different.
TW> What isn't accessible is the layout which is based on tables, changing
 this to TW> div's will increase the accessibility and the opportunity to
 easily create TW> new designs.
TW> The menus are awfull, I mean, come on, <a> tags separated by pipes?
 Imagine TW> what text to speech software would make from that... What's
 wrong with using TW> <ul> which is basically made for this?
TW>
TW> Anyway, if you want to talk about accessibility, the first thing you
 should do TW> is ask yourself the question if you know what accessibility
 is. If the answer TW> to that question is no, then stick with the term
 usability.

In my opinion this is hair-splitting. To me "accessibility" just means 
"usability for disabled users". Besides, as I already noted, the fact that 
it's bad from a design/usability standpoint is only going to make it worse 
from an accessibility standpoint.

Jeff
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