[gentoo-user] fooling portage a bit

[gentoo-user] fooling portage a bit

[John covici]

OK, I have a couple of problems with what is considered a dependency
-- I don't want gnopernicus, but its a dependency of gnome-base -- any
way to fool portage that I have such a thing when I don't?  Another
one is mozilla-firefox I want to use the 3.0 nightly build compiled
from source, can I fool portage into thinking I have mozilla-2.0 or
whatever when I don't have such a beast?

Thanks for all your help.

-- 
Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
How do
you spend it?

         John Covici
         covici@ccs.covici.com
-- 
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] fooling portage a bit

[Bo Ørsted Andresen]

[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 764 bytes --]

On Saturday 10 March 2007 03:06:37 John covici wrote:
> OK, I have a couple of problems with what is considered a dependency
> -- I don't want gnopernicus, but its a dependency of gnome-base -- any
> way to fool portage that I have such a thing when I don't? 

Why don't you just disable the accessibility use flag if you don't want it?

> Another one is mozilla-firefox I want to use the 3.0 nightly build compiled
> from source, can I fool portage into thinking I have mozilla-2.0 or
> whatever when I don't have such a beast?

You *can* use package.provided (see `man portage`) but I doubt that epiphany 
and yelp will work with it... Personally I'd probably create an ebuild if I 
really wanted firefox 3 now (which I don't).

-- 
Bo Andresen

[-- Attachment #2: Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 189 bytes --]

Re: [gentoo-user] fooling portage a bit

[John covici]

on Saturday 03/10/2007 Bo Ørsted Andresen(bo.andresen@zlin.dk) wrote
 > On Saturday 10 March 2007 03:06:37 John covici wrote:
 > > OK, I have a couple of problems with what is considered a dependency
 > > -- I don't want gnopernicus, but its a dependency of gnome-base -- any
 > > way to fool portage that I have such a thing when I don't? 
 > 
 > Why don't you just disable the accessibility use flag if you don't
 > want it?
Because I do want orca which is another seech package, but gnopernicus
 is a dead duck now.  Perhaps there should be a virtual speech package
 which orca, lsr could both satisfy.


 > 
 > > Another one is mozilla-firefox I want to use the 3.0 nightly build compiled
 > > from source, can I fool portage into thinking I have mozilla-2.0 or
 > > whatever when I don't have such a beast?
 > 
 > You *can* use package.provided (see `man portage`) but I doubt that epiphany 
 > and yelp will work with it... Personally I'd probably create an ebuild if I 
 > really wanted firefox 3 now (which I don't).

I do this because it is supposed to be much more accessible than the
2.0 versions.

-- 
Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
How do
you spend it?

         John Covici
         covici@ccs.covici.com
--
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] fooling portage a bit

[Bo Ørsted Andresen]

[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1539 bytes --]

On Saturday 10 March 2007 03:59:46 John covici wrote:
> > > OK, I have a couple of problems with what is considered a dependency
> > > -- I don't want gnopernicus, but its a dependency of gnome-base -- any
> > > way to fool portage that I have such a thing when I don't?
> >
> > Why don't you just disable the accessibility use flag if you don't
> > want it?
>
> Because I do want orca which is another seech package, but gnopernicus
>  is a dead duck now.  Perhaps there should be a virtual speech package
>  which orca, lsr could both satisfy.

What has orca to do with it? Nothing in the tree depends on it. If you want it 
just add it to your world file (see --noreplace in `man emerge`).

The gnome ebuild is just a meta package (essentially a virtual that nothing 
must depend on directly). It installs nothing itself. So if you want other 
packages that it does depend on with accessibility enabled just add those to 
your world file too...

> > > Another one is mozilla-firefox I want to use the 3.0 nightly build
> > > compiled from source, can I fool portage into thinking I have
> > > mozilla-2.0 or whatever when I don't have such a beast?
> >
> > You *can* use package.provided (see `man portage`) but I doubt that
> > epiphany and yelp will work with it... Personally I'd probably create an
> > ebuild if I really wanted firefox 3 now (which I don't).
>
> I do this because it is supposed to be much more accessible than the
> 2.0 versions.

Accessible? Not understood. ;)

-- 
Bo Andresen

[-- Attachment #2: Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 189 bytes --]

Re: [gentoo-user] fooling portage a bit

[John covici]

on Saturday 03/10/2007 Bo Ørsted Andresen(bo.andresen@zlin.dk) wrote
 > On Saturday 10 March 2007 03:59:46 John covici wrote:
 > > > > OK, I have a couple of problems with what is considered a dependency
 > > > > -- I don't want gnopernicus, but its a dependency of gnome-base -- any
 > > > > way to fool portage that I have such a thing when I don't?
 > > >
 > > > Why don't you just disable the accessibility use flag if you don't
 > > > want it?
 > >
 > > Because I do want orca which is another seech package, but gnopernicus
 > >  is a dead duck now.  Perhaps there should be a virtual speech package
 > >  which orca, lsr could both satisfy.
 > 
 > What has orca to do with it? Nothing in the tree depends on it. If you want it 
 > just add it to your world file (see --noreplace in `man emerge`).
 > 
 > The gnome ebuild is just a meta package (essentially a virtual that nothing 
 > must depend on directly). It installs nothing itself. So if you want other 
 > packages that it does depend on with accessibility enabled just add those to 
 > your world file too...
 > 
 > > > > Another one is mozilla-firefox I want to use the 3.0 nightly build
 > > > > compiled from source, can I fool portage into thinking I have
 > > > > mozilla-2.0 or whatever when I don't have such a beast?
 > > >
 > > > You *can* use package.provided (see `man portage`) but I doubt that
 > > > epiphany and yelp will work with it... Personally I'd probably create an
 > > > ebuild if I really wanted firefox 3 now (which I don't).
 > >
 > > I do this because it is supposed to be much more accessible than the
 > > 2.0 versions.
 > 
 > Accessible? Not understood. ;)

According to the folks working on orca, they have been working with
the Firefox team  to make Orca speak the controls properly whereas if
I use 2.0 versions, Orca hardly says anything and I can't really use
this for web browsing.

-- 
Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
How do
you spend it?

         John Covici
         covici@ccs.covici.com
--
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list