[gentoo-user] horrible gedit dependencies

[gentoo-user] horrible gedit dependencies

[Enrico Weigelt]

Hi folks,

I just wanted to install gedit on an system already runing Xorg,
but I'm horrified about the dependencies. All useflags are disabled,
but still 38 packages required.

Is it possible to trim this down somehow ? 


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Re: [gentoo-user] horrible gedit dependencies

[Cabillot Julien]

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No..
But you can try mousepad (from the xfce project).

On 3/8/07, Enrico Weigelt <weigelt@metux.de> wrote:
>
>
> Hi folks,
>
> I just wanted to install gedit on an system already runing Xorg,
> but I'm horrified about the dependencies. All useflags are disabled,
> but still 38 packages required.
>
> Is it possible to trim this down somehow ?
>
>
> cu
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Re: [gentoo-user] horrible gedit dependencies

[Enrico Weigelt]

* Cabillot Julien <jcabillot@gmail.com> wrote:
> No..
> But you can try mousepad (from the xfce project).

Thanks. I'll have a look at it.


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Re: [gentoo-user] horrible gedit dependencies

[James Ausmus]

On 3/8/07, Albert Hopkins <marduk@gentoo.org> wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-03-08 at 21:02 +0100, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> > * Albert Hopkins <marduk@gentoo.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > > Looking at the ebuild, I see nothing particularly outstanding about
> > > it's dependencies relative to other GNOME apps, apart from gtksourceview.
> >
> > there's lots of documentation stuff pulled in, although I've
> > switched off the docs useflag.
>
> Generally the doc use flag is for developer documentation.  That's
> probably what it's referring to.
>
> > ./configure tells me some optional things, ie. scrollkeeper.
> > I wonder if gtksourceview and the printing stuff could be made
> > optional (./configure doesnt tell anything about it).
>
> Without gtksourceview you have no gedit.  It's the text widget used by
> gedit.  Scrollkeeper is pretty much used by all GNOME apps for help
> docs, etc.
>
> > > Most GNOME setups will already have these installed.
> >
> > I don't have any GNOME setup. I just want an easy-to-use editor,
> > nothing else.
> >
>
> You probably don't want gedit then.  gedit is the "text editor for the
> GNOME desktop", so it's pretty much integrated with GNOME itself.

You could try gvim, if you're already familiar enough with vim (and
gvim only has optional dependancies on gnome et al.)

HTH-

James
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Re: [gentoo-user] horrible gedit dependencies

[Albert Hopkins]

On Thu, 2007-03-08 at 12:34 -0800, James Ausmus wrote:

> You could try gvim, if you're already familiar enough with vim (and
> gvim only has optional dependancies on gnome et al.)

... and I'm a HUGE fan of [g]vim, but I question whether it would fit
the OPs requirement of "easy-to-use".

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Re: [gentoo-user] horrible gedit dependencies

[Philip Webb]

070308 Albert Hopkins wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-03-08 at 20:07 +0100, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
>> I just wanted to install gedit on an system already runing Xorg,
>> but I'm horrified about the dependencies.
>> All useflags are disabled, but still 38 packages required.
> Gedit is a GNOME app (included in GNOME's standard Desktop release)
> and, as such, depends on quite a few gnome libraries.
> Looking at the ebuild, I see nothing particularly outstanding
> about its deps relative to other GNOME apps, apart from gtksourceview.

I have basic Gnome libs for Gvim & Epiphany, but it wants  35  deps, incl

  media-libs/gstreamer-0.10.11  1,826 kB
  media-libs/libmpeg2-0.4.0b  USE="X -sdl" 463 kB
  media-libs/audiofile-0.2.6-r1  366 kB
  media-sound/esound-0.2.36-r2  USE="-alsa -debug -ipv6 -tcpd" 362 kB
  media-video/totem-2.16.4  USE="-a52 -dbus -debug -dvd -ffmpeg -firefox \
   -flac -gnome -hal -lirc -mad mpeg nsplugin -nvtv -ogg -theora -vorbis \
   -xine xv" 1,778 kB
  gnome-extra/nautilus-cd-burner-2.16.2  USE="cdr -debug -dvdr" 699 kB
  gnome-extra/gnome-media-2.16.1 USE="-debug -ipv6 -mad -ogg -vorbis" 2905 kB
 
I don't have a sound card & have removed all sound software from my box.
Whyever would Gedit want sound pkgs or a CD burner ??

It's probably easier for AH to use Kwrite, if he doesn't like Vim:
even if he has no KDE pkgs installed, it won't ask for  35  deps ...

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Re: [gentoo-user] horrible gedit dependencies

[Albert Hopkins]

On Thu, 2007-03-08 at 16:23 -0500, Philip Webb wrote:
> I don't have a sound card & have removed all sound software from my
> box.
> Whyever would Gedit want sound pkgs or a CD burner ??
> 

It doesn't.  If you look at the ebuild there are no dependencies for
this.  There may be indirect dependencies (remember gedit is part of the
GNOME Desktop) and also remember use flags are very important (e.g. I
have the complete GNOME desktop + other GNOME apps running in a vm, but
none of them pull in esound).

> It's probably easier for AH to use Kwrite, if he doesn't like Vim:
> even if he has no KDE pkgs installed, it won't ask for  35  deps ...
> 

I think you got me confused with the OP.  I'm actually very happy with
Vim. :-)  Also, AFAIK there is no ebuild for Kwrite.  Kwrite is part of
kdebase which will still likely pull in a bunch of stuff that the OP
isn't interested in.

I think what the OP is looking for is a simple GUI text editor with no
DE dependencies.  There is a crap load of editors out there (e.g. tea)
but as I've no experience with them to recommend them (plus it's hard
recommending packages as people's preferences vary greatly). But I hope
I've given some clarity as to why gedit has such "horrible"
dependencies.


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Re: [gentoo-user] horrible gedit dependencies

[Philip Webb]

070308 Albert Hopkins wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-03-08 at 16:23 -0500, Philip Webb wrote:
>> I don't have a sound card & have removed all sound software from my box.
>> Whyever would Gedit want sound pkgs or a CD burner ??
> It doesn't.

I don't mean to start an argument, but it does "want" them, as I said,
even if they are not stated deps in the ebuild.  My USE flags are:

  USE="-* apm bitmap-fonts bonobo bzip2 cdr crypt cups dri foomaticdb
     gcj gdbm gif gnutls gpm gtk gtk2 imagemagick imlib java javascript jpeg
     kde lcms libwww lm_sensors mime motif mpeg ncurses nptl nptlonly
     nsplugin nvidia opengl pcre pdf perl plotutils png pop python
     qt3 readline scanner session slang ssl
     tiff truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts unicode usb X xml xorg xv zlib"

ie I drop them all, then define those I deliberately want.
If Gedit drags in all deps for the Gnome desktop, then my question is:
whyever would the Gnome desktop want sound pkgs or a CD burner ??
and perhaps too: why does Gedit drag in all the Gnome desktop deps ??
If the answer is "That's just the way Gnome does things",
that tends to confirm the correctness of my avoidance of Gnome
in favor of KDE & (installed, but not used) Xfce (smile).

> AFAIK there is no ebuild for Kwrite.  Kwrite is part of Kdebase
> which will still pull in a bunch that the OP isn't interested in.

Kwrite is included under Kate, which is a separate Gentoo pkg,
but what I should have refered to is Kedit:

  eix kedit
  * kde-base/kedit
     Available versions:  (3.5) 3.5.5 ~3.5.6
     Homepage:            http://www.kde.org/
     Description:         KDE: very simple text editor

The simplest editor I know is 'e3', which I sometimes use:
it's not GUI, but it's very quick & easy (I use the 'Nedit' mode).
Gvim is my mainstay for most things, of course.

HTH the OP.

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