From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1H8BlH-00053X-4E for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 08:39:43 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l0K8cUS1010885; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 08:38:30 GMT Received: from smtp1.iway.na (smtp1.iway.na [196.44.136.15]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l0K8YCSI001583 for ; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 08:34:13 GMT Received: from vscan.iway.na (vscan.iway.na [196.44.136.13]) by smtp1.iway.na (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9162A64CD for ; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 10:34:09 +0200 (WAST) Received: from mx2.iway.na (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vscan.iway.na (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84734A1E22 for ; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 10:34:09 +0200 (WAST) Received: from uwix.alt.na ([196.44.156.90]) by mx2.iway.na (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id JC5RSX01.P78 for ; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 10:34:09 +0200 Received: from uwe by uwix.alt.na with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1H8A5D-0004Dc-NC for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 08:52:11 +0200 From: Uwe Thiem Organization: SysEx (Pty) Ltd. To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Suggestions for a minimalistic system Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 08:52:11 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <45B11EA5.9030301@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-6" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200701200852.11504.uwix@iway.na> Sender: Uwe Thiem X-Archives-Salt: 3a1cd92f-33f1-4c3a-a4f8-ec4f242049e1 X-Archives-Hash: 464a6b97d20ddee9a4d357aeb00b2d6e On 19 January 2007 23:46, Vlad Dogaru wrote: > On 1/19/07, b.n. wrote: > > Buy a couple spare RAM modules. Surely I agree with your will to build a > > minimalistic system, this will help anyway and it's a nice experience, > > but RAM is quite cheap and is the magic elisir that allows outdated > > machines to be still usable -the CPU is rarely a problem, unless you > > often do something quite computationally intensive. > > I have 384 megs of RAM and no imediate possibility of buying more. I > realise it is arguably sufficient for many lightweight applications, but, > as I mentioned, it is becoming increasingly frustrating, even with the real > power of Gentoo and Fluxbox (the two have changed my life -- literally). This is odd.My main workstation also has 384MB of ram. I run a full KDE session and do not experience any slow down. Right now, I have open: 9 konqueror windows (not tabs), kmail, kmahjongg, konsole with 3 sessions, noatun, kcalc. My background is a 1024x768 photo which also takes some memory. Switching between virtual desktops is instantaneous, all apps are very responsive. One good thing (among others) of using a real desktop environment is that all apps share the vast majority of libraries which are loaded into memory just once. When you mix environments or use an eclectic collection of unrelated apps, they all draw in different libraries and memory usage goes up. Uwe -- A fast and easy generator of fractals for KDE: http://www.SysEx.com.na/iwy-1.0.tar.bz2 Proof of concept of a TSP solver for KDE: http://www.SysEx.com.na/epat-0.1.tar.bz2 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list