[gentoo-user] managing 802.11a/b/g

[gentoo-user] managing 802.11a/b/g

[James]

Hello,

I managed to intall madwifi-ng, wpa_supplicant and rebuild the
kernel with cryto, so far.

The hardware in this protable is:
02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212
802.11abg NIC (rev 01

wifi0     Link encap:UNSPEC  HWaddr
00-18-4D-4C-0C-9B-7B-B6-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00
          BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:199
          RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
          Interrupt:5 Memory:faa80000-faa90000


My question is there a  gui to manage the wireless 
connection and should I add an iptables script to secure
the machine when accessing variouls networks with 802.11?

Also, does any gui manage/control the dhcp handshaking that
occurs at various location, which is the same gui that monitors/manages
the wireless connect and firewall(iptables)?  possibility
would be a wireless (static) ip at site where access occurs frequently
in lieu of dhcp. Is that a gui that one can use to manages all of the
various common configuration choices, or is it a roll_your_own
type of management for 802.11 type devices.


Googling does not produce much:

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Wireless_Configuration_and_Startup
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Wireless
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_ar5212

that is specifically related to managing and using the wireless interface.

James

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Re: [gentoo-user] managing 802.11a/b/g

[Cliff Wells]

James wrote:

> Also, does any gui manage/control the dhcp handshaking that
> occurs at various location, which is the same gui that monitors/manages
> the wireless connect and firewall(iptables)?  possibility
> would be a wireless (static) ip at site where access occurs frequently
> in lieu of dhcp. Is that a gui that one can use to manages all of the
> various common configuration choices, or is it a roll_your_own
> type of management for 802.11 type devices.

If you can use NetworkManager you'll find it rocks.  I use it on Fedora 
and I'm no longer jealous of Mac and Windows users and their ability to 
use a random AP on a moment's notice.

http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/

Regards,
Cliff
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[gentoo-user] Re: managing 802.11a/b/g

[james]

Cliff Wells <cliff <at> develix.com> writes:


> If you can use NetworkManager you'll find it rocks.  I use it on Fedora 
> and I'm no longer jealous of Mac and Windows users and their ability to 
> use a random AP on a moment's notice.

> http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/


Hello Cliff,

They are all hard masked. Did you install an overlay from somewhere,
or just download and compile it?


James



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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: managing 802.11a/b/g

[Cliff Wells]

james wrote:
> Cliff Wells <cliff <at> develix.com> writes:
> 
> 
>> If you can use NetworkManager you'll find it rocks.  I use it on Fedora 
>> and I'm no longer jealous of Mac and Windows users and their ability to 
>> use a random AP on a moment's notice.
> 
>> http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/
> 
> 
> Hello Cliff,
> 
> They are all hard masked. Did you install an overlay from somewhere,
> or just download and compile it?

I only run gentoo on servers, so I've never had to try to install it 
there.  My laptop runs fedora so it comes shipped by default.

I'm not certain why it would be hard masked in Gentoo... maybe it's not 
100% compatible with the Gentoo init stuff.  I've used it without 
incident on both FC5 and FC6 and the Ubuntu crowd has apparently been 
using it for some time as well.

Hopefully you can get it working because frankly there's not even a 
close second on Linux for doing what it does.

Sorry I can't help more.

Regards,
Cliff

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[gentoo-user] Re: managing 802.11a/b/g

[»Q«]

In <news:45A86133.7050008@develix.com>,
Cliff Wells <cliff@develix.com> wrote:

> I'm not certain why it would be hard masked in Gentoo... maybe it's
> not 100% compatible with the Gentoo init stuff.  I've used it without 
> incident on both FC5 and FC6 and the Ubuntu crowd has apparently been 
> using it for some time as well.
> 
> Hopefully you can get it working because frankly there's not even a 
> close second on Linux for doing what it does.

I read caillon's blog, and I've been excited about NetworkManager since
I saw it announced there.  I'm still too chicken to install it on a
Gentoo system, though.

Probably bug 154497 is enough to keep it hard masked.  Reading
through its bugs gives some good ideas about how to avoid problems,
for anyone who wants to give it a try.  

<http://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=networkmanager>

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[gentoo-user] Re: managing 802.11a/b/g

[James]

»Q« <boxcars <at> gmx.net> writes:


> > Hopefully you can get it working because frankly there's not even a 
> > close second on Linux for doing what it does.

> I read caillon's blog, and I've been excited about NetworkManager since
> I saw it announced there.  I'm still too chicken to install it on a
> Gentoo system, though.

> Probably bug 154497 is enough to keep it hard masked.  Reading
> through its bugs gives some good ideas about how to avoid problems,
> for anyone who wants to give it a try.  

> <http://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=networkmanager>


Hello Q,

This is a little bit much for me to undertake. I'll have to wait 
until NetManager is in testing.......

Do drop me a line if you find an overlay, or such that a (gentoo)
user can install..... or another, less feature rich alternaitve.

thanks,


James




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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: managing 802.11a/b/g

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 18:33:02 +0000 (UTC), James wrote:

> This is a little bit much for me to undertake. I'll have to wait 
> until NetManager is in testing.......
> 
> Do drop me a line if you find an overlay, or such that a (gentoo)
> user can install..... or another, less feature rich alternaitve.

You don't need an overlay to test a masked package, just unmask it

echo "net-misc/networkmanager" >>/etc/portage/package.unmask

You may fond that it was masked for a good reason, or you may find that
it works fine for you. Check /usr/portage/profile/package.mask for the
reason for masking. In this case it simply says masked for testing, which
I tend to take as an invitation to test :)


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[gentoo-user] Re: managing 802.11a/b/g

[james]

Neil Bothwick <neil <at> digimed.co.uk> writes:


> You may fond that it was masked for a good reason, or you may find that
> it works fine for you. Check /usr/portage/profile/package.mask for the
> reason for masking. In this case it simply says masked for testing, which
> I tend to take as an invitation to test :)

Hello Neil,

OK, I see this along with the date from October of 06:


# Luis Medinas <metalgod@gentoo.org> (28 Oct 2006)
# Mask dhcdbd and NetworkManager for testing
# Steev Klimaszewski <steev@gentoo.org> (04 Nov 2006)
# Rename NetworkManager to networkmanager for consistency.
net-misc/dhcdbd
net-misc/networkmanager


But the aforemenntioned bugzilla issues are since this date. Reading
them makes consider this package to be a  time sink......

If it's ready for testing shouldn't it be (~) masked and not (M) masked?
If not, what the meaning of masking with (~) versus (M) ? 
Point me to the docs that I need to brush up on, as I rarely
consider a package if it's (M) masked. The few I have tried, not
one ever compiled. I'll look in this file 
(/usr/portage/profile/package.mask) in the future.


That said, as soon as I get a second system with 802.11 working,
I'll unmask it and give it a shot.

thanks,

James

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: managing 802.11a/b/g

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 02:30:48 +0000 (UTC), james wrote:

> If it's ready for testing shouldn't it be (~) masked and not (M) masked?
> If not, what the meaning of masking with (~) versus (M) 

~arch means a testing ebuild. In this case, the package apparently is
considered not ready for general release, but it is available for those
who wish to participate in the testing. The same thing happens with KDE
beta/rc releases: the ebuilds go into portage but are masked, because the
software itself is considered untested (obviously if it is beta).


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Normal people believe that if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Engineers
believe that if it ain't broke, it doesn't have enough features yet."

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