[gentoo-user] {OT} Webmail in portage without PHP?

[gentoo-user] {OT} Webmail in portage without PHP?

[Grant]

Is there a decent webmail package in portage (or a layman overlay)
that doesn't depend on PHP?

- Grant
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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Webmail in portage without PHP?

[Nangus Garba]

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> Is there a decent webmail package in portage (or a layman overlay)
> that doesn't depend on PHP?
>

what is the problem with php? Every webmail is going to need to depend on
some kind of server side scripting.

Nangus

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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Webmail in portage without PHP?

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Wed, 6 Dec 2006 09:29:05 -0500, Nangus Garba wrote:

> > Is there a decent webmail package in portage (or a layman overlay)
> > that doesn't depend on PHP?
> >  
> 
> what is the problem with php? Every webmail is going to need to depend
> on some kind of server side scripting.

If you'd rather use Perl, there's Neomail, but it's not in portage or any
layman overlay bit you can get it from
http://sourceforge.net/projects/neomail/


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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Webmail in portage without PHP?

[Grant]

> > Is there a decent webmail package in portage (or a layman overlay)
> > that doesn't depend on PHP?
> >
>
> what is the problem with php? Every webmail is going to need to depend on
> some kind of server side scripting.
>
> Nangus

I am using perl and I'd rather not install and maintain PHP just so I
can use Squirrelmail.  It sounds like I may need to though.  Does
anyone prefer another webmail client to Squirrelmail?

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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Webmail in portage without PHP?

[Korthrun]

> I am using perl and I'd rather not install and maintain PHP just so I
> can use Squirrelmail.  It sounds like I may need to though.  Does
> anyone prefer another webmail client to Squirrelmail?
>
> - Grant
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>
>
If you don't mind php, I recommend horde . Just be sure that you
actually need the features it provides, because it has the potential
be a hassle to setup.

Atmail is a good perl based webmail, along with Neomail, which was
previously mentioned.

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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Webmail in portage without PHP?

[Etaoin Shrdlu]

On Wednesday 6 December 2006 15:52, Neil Bothwick wrote:

> If you'd rather use Perl, there's Neomail, but it's not in portage or
> any layman overlay bit you can get it from
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/neomail/

There are also some java-based one:

zimbra, jwma, jwebmail, yawebmail

However, they seem not to be in portage, and I don't know whether they 
are in some overlay.
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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Webmail in portage without PHP?

[kashani]

Grant wrote:
>> > Is there a decent webmail package in portage (or a layman overlay)
>> > that doesn't depend on PHP?
>> >
>>
>> what is the problem with php? Every webmail is going to need to depend on
>> some kind of server side scripting.
>>
>> Nangus
> 
> I am using perl and I'd rather not install and maintain PHP just so I
> can use Squirrelmail.  It sounds like I may need to though.  Does
> anyone prefer another webmail client to Squirrelmail?
> 
> - Grant

I've run squirrel, horde, and roundcube. I like roundcube best. It's 
probably the simplest to setup and the cleanest interface.

kashani
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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Webmail in portage without PHP?

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 09:32:17 -0800, kashani wrote:

> I've run squirrel, horde, and roundcube. I like roundcube best. It's 
> probably the simplest to setup and the cleanest interface.

There's an ebuild on b.g.o - http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109170


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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Webmail in portage without PHP?

[Michael Crute]

On 12/6/06, Grant <emailgrant@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am using perl and I'd rather not install and maintain PHP just so I
> can use Squirrelmail.  It sounds like I may need to though.  Does
> anyone prefer another webmail client to Squirrelmail?

We run RoundCube on Gentoo at work and it works very well, the
interface is AJAXified which has its benefits. Overall I would say
that if you are going to run PHP for your web-mail RoundCube is the
best way to go. I don't know if it is in Portage or how easy it is to
emerge, we manage our web applications with a different in-house
system.

-Mike

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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Webmail in portage without PHP?

[Grant]

> >> > Is there a decent webmail package in portage (or a layman overlay)
> >> > that doesn't depend on PHP?
> >> >
> >>
> >> what is the problem with php? Every webmail is going to need to depend on
> >> some kind of server side scripting.
> >>
> >> Nangus
> >
> > I am using perl and I'd rather not install and maintain PHP just so I
> > can use Squirrelmail.  It sounds like I may need to though.  Does
> > anyone prefer another webmail client to Squirrelmail?
> >
> > - Grant
>
> I've run squirrel, horde, and roundcube. I like roundcube best. It's
> probably the simplest to setup and the cleanest interface.
>
> kashani

I'm between roundcube and squirrelmail.  Does anyone know if
squirrelmail has a drop-down for changing the From: header?  I see
that roundcube does.

Any other comparative information between the two would be much appreciated.

- Grant
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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Webmail in portage without PHP?

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Wed, 6 Dec 2006 10:23:12 -0800, Grant wrote:

> I'm between roundcube and squirrelmail.

> Any other comparative information between the two would be much
> appreciated.

Why not install them both and see which suits you best?

That's what I did, I installed Roundcube in a sub-directory so I could
compare it with SquirrelMail?


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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Webmail in portage without PHP?

[Jim Burwell]

kashani wrote:
> Grant wrote:
>>> > Is there a decent webmail package in portage (or a layman overlay)
>>> > that doesn't depend on PHP?
>>> >
>>>
>>> what is the problem with php? Every webmail is going to need to
>>> depend on
>>> some kind of server side scripting.
>>>
>>> Nangus
>>
>> I am using perl and I'd rather not install and maintain PHP just so I
>> can use Squirrelmail.  It sounds like I may need to though.  Does
>> anyone prefer another webmail client to Squirrelmail?
>>
>> - Grant
>
> I've run squirrel, horde, and roundcube. I like roundcube best. It's
> probably the simplest to setup and the cleanest interface.
>
I've set up squirrel and Horde IMP to check them out.  Squirrel was
relatively easy to set up compared to Horde, and via plugins, has pretty
much every feature I want.  Horde was a pain to set up, is big and slow,
but looks a bit nicer than squirrel (haven't experimented with any skins
on squirrel). 

I also installed ingo and turba on top of horde too, and I'm a bit
disappointed.  Unless there's a misconfiguration, turba doesn't seem to
allow you to simply add a contact from an email message in Imp.  And
turba's mail filters seem fairly limited.  I was expecting something
more on the lines of Tbird's mail filter capabilities.  I suppose you
could get that if you ran procmail or maildrop, or perhaps seive (which
I know nothing about, and apparently requires the cyrus imap server).

Roundcube looks very promising.  Looks like the project is going for a
web based T-bird style client.  :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Webmail in portage without PHP?

[Grant]

> > I'm between roundcube and squirrelmail.
>
> > Any other comparative information between the two would be much
> > appreciated.
>
> Why not install them both and see which suits you best?
>
> That's what I did, I installed Roundcube in a sub-directory so I could
> compare it with SquirrelMail?

Does anyone know if squirrelmail can be configured in a way so as to
allow usage without executing php right on the page?  My apache2 setup
won't allow a script to be executed from the URL because of a mod_perl
module I use.  It looks like roundcube operates in this fashion, but
squirrelmail uses .php pages.  Can squirrelmail be used without .php
pages?

- Grant
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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Webmail in portage without PHP?

[Mark Shields]

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On 12/6/06, Korthrun <korthrun@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I am using perl and I'd rather not install and maintain PHP just so I
> > can use Squirrelmail.  It sounds like I may need to though.  Does
> > anyone prefer another webmail client to Squirrelmail?
> >
> > - Grant
> > --
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> >
> >
> If you don't mind php, I recommend horde . Just be sure that you
> actually need the features it provides, because it has the potential
> be a hassle to setup.
>
> Atmail is a good perl based webmail, along with Neomail, which was
> previously mentioned.
>
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>
>
My work uses Atmail - it may be highly aesthetic but it's not very
functional.  There's a bug with the perl script for viewing image
attachments inline that doesn't always allow you to view them.

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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Webmail in portage without PHP?

[Daniel Iliev]

Michael Crute wrote:
> On 12/6/06, Grant <emailgrant@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I am using perl and I'd rather not install and maintain PHP just so I
>> can use Squirrelmail.  It sounds like I may need to though.  Does
>> anyone prefer another webmail client to Squirrelmail?
>
> We run RoundCube on Gentoo at work and it works very well, the
> interface is AJAXified which has its benefits. Overall I would say
> that if you are going to run PHP for your web-mail RoundCube is the
> best way to go. I don't know if it is in Portage or how easy it is to
> emerge, we manage our web applications with a different in-house
> system.
>
> -Mike
>

Well, I've tested RoundCube and I confirm it's very easy to install and
very nice looking web mail application...But...what about security? It's
not in the portage so there are no gentoo devs to take care of it. Since
I would not go the way of checking for exploits and patching it myself I
prefer SquirrelMail. If someday gentoo decides to include RoundCube in
the portage, only then I'll think of using it in a production system.

So, how do you, guys, secure non-portage applications?

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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Webmail in portage without PHP?

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Thu, 07 Dec 2006 11:53:30 +0200, Daniel Iliev wrote:

> Well, I've tested RoundCube and I confirm it's very easy to install and
> very nice looking web mail application...But...what about security? It's
> not in the portage so there are no gentoo devs to take care of it. Since
> I would not go the way of checking for exploits and patching it myself I
> prefer SquirrelMail. If someday gentoo decides to include RoundCube in
> the portage, only then I'll think of using it in a production system.

There's an announcement mailing list for Roundcube that is a "Read-only
list with announcements like new versions, security bugs and more."

Subscribing to that should keep you abreast of any security issues and
updates.

Roundcube is still in beta, I wouldn't expect it to be added to portage
until 1.0 is due for release.


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