From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GpYrR-0007JW-GN for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 23:29:05 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id kATNQoNC006239; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 23:26:50 GMT Received: from rutherford.zen.co.uk (rutherford.zen.co.uk [212.23.3.142]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id kATNNaSR001604 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 23:23:36 GMT Received: from [82.69.117.73] (helo=localhost) by rutherford.zen.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.50) id 1GpYm7-0005Iv-KZ for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 23:23:35 +0000 Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 23:24:26 +0000 From: David Blamire-Brown To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] browser advice Message-Id: <20061129232426.456dea47.david@blamire-brown.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: Personal X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.7 (GTK+ 2.8.19; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-Rutherford-IP: [82.69.117.73] X-Archives-Salt: 8332fc57-a9ff-4964-ab96-2befc49d0d20 X-Archives-Hash: e7dffa1c58540f11ec1ef3e2a2bbe9a8 On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 21:00:06 +0000 (WET) Jorge Almeida wrote: > I'm about to dump Firefox, because I can't google in English. The thing > So, the point is: what browser now? Firefox is the one more often > mentioned in this list. How about Konqueror or Opera? The latter is > hardly ever mentioned. Is there some special reason for this? For > example, is it activelly maintained? Is it missing some particular > feature? It looks nice enough, but is there some catch? Another vote for Opera here. I'm running 9.02 at home. A few observations from my set-up, although they could be as much to do me having not got something else in my configuration right ... 1) This version of Opera really seems to struggle with "heavy" pages. The whole app slows down, no response to clicks etc, until the page has fully rendered. Example of affected page: http://funds.ft.com/funds/searchFund.do?symb=AQSTG&type=F1 2) Opera infrequently causes my system to hang completely. I can't ctrl +alt+F1 to a terminal screen, I can ctrl+alt+backspace to kill X, I can't do anything. It's a hard reboot of the box. Admittedly I'm slightly impatient, but I give it 10 secs before hitting reset, sometimes longer. I can't categorically state that it's Opera, but I've a very strong suspicion. Especially given that I basically use an xterm, sylpheed and opera 95% of the time. 3) Javascript seems fairly broken in Opera - but that could be my fault for not setting something up properly. 4) Some pages just don't render properly in Opera and I have occasion to fall back to firefox. As another poster said, it's often badly designed banking sites. 5) Overall though, IMO Opera is a nicer browser to use than firefox. Tabbed browsing is implemented in a more effective fashion. Keyboard shortcuts are lovely, eg F2 to bring a dialog for typing a URL, which can be configured to fire up a new tab is very nice. Shift+F2 allows you to have a one key shortcut for favourite bookmarks (again firing up a new tab). Sidebar is far more effective in Opera. Obviously personal preference, but I much prefer it. Regards, David -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list