From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Gls9z-0000bi-3e for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 19 Nov 2006 19:16:59 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id kAJJEqFr005842; Sun, 19 Nov 2006 19:14:52 GMT Received: from ender.volumehost.net (adsl-69-154-123-202.dsl.fyvlar.swbell.net [69.154.123.202]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id kAJJCp3r004410 for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2006 19:12:52 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ender.volumehost.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE3D8E19 for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2006 19:12:50 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at volumehost.net Received: from ender.volumehost.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ender.volumehost.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id GWxB200SBsme for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2006 19:12:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from adsl-69-154-123-205.dsl.fyvlar.swbell.net (adsl-69-154-123-205.dsl.fyvlar.swbell.net [69.154.123.205]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ender.volumehost.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61FFFEE09 for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2006 19:12:49 +0000 (UTC) From: "Boyd Stephen Smith Jr." To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Coping with KDE upgrades Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 13:13:13 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <9acccfe50611191052v36fbecd3ob4b7aad6d1e7f3ec@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9acccfe50611191052v36fbecd3ob4b7aad6d1e7f3ec@mail.gmail.com> X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1545940.XYzrgbz3vn"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200611191313.13431.bss03@volumehost.net> X-Archives-Salt: 9af4759e-36db-416c-a403-0f1f8c5bd003 X-Archives-Hash: ce57e4a8e2ad9ea40aa50fb30ad6eab1 --nextPart1545940.XYzrgbz3vn Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday 19 November 2006 12:52, "Kevin O'Gorman" =20 wrote about '[gentoo-user] Coping with KDE upgrades': > I converted to KDE modular some time ago with considerable trepidation. > Now I'm faced with the updates that came out this week, and I'd like to > take advantage of the opportunity this offers to dispense with (that is, > unmerge) the many parts of KDE I will never use. I'm there with you. > The problem is obvious and unavoidable: there are 231 parts that > currently are in my world file, and I do not know what all of them > do. I can cherry-pick a few that are obvious throw-aways by removing > them from world, and waiting to see if they get updated anyway because > they're actually needed. The only package that was in my world file was kde-meta. That brings in=20 everything. How did you get 213 entries anyway? Forgetting to use -1=20 (--oneshot) as needed? > Does anybody have advice about how to improve that process? Would it > be better to remove all but the obvious keepers? The way I'm slimming things down, I removed kde-meta from world, and then=20 did emerge -p --depclean. I look over the (*LONG*) list and when I see an= =20 application I use, I add it to my world file with emerge -n. After I'm=20 fairly sure I've caught everything I'll let the depclean actually remove=20 packages. > I'm not looking forward to the pains-taking process of vetting each and > every one of the 231, but I don't want to be spending the time to > recompile the presumed multitude that I never ever use. Unfortunately I still have a long list of packages to "confirm" that I=20 don't use before unmerging. An "advantage" to my situtation is that I=20 still have all of kde, but updates are only applied to things that are=20 depended upon by my world file. You'll have to do some manual work, but you can always build binary=20 packages of anything before unmerging it so that re-merging it is quite=20 sort. grep-ing your process list for package names (or vice-versa) can=20 easily confirm packages as used. Also, if your filesystem keeps track of=20 atimes, you can probably use those to help make decisions. I'm not sure I *directly* addressed your questions, but HTH. =2D-=20 "If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability." =2D- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh --nextPart1545940.XYzrgbz3vn Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBFYKzJq72nDbhDXToRAmJsAJ9EQxrlzYB/9saXEUgDeWxtIRIoQQCaAhIE T+Dga/go8exNY+VDxcdTlPI= =+y3U -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1545940.XYzrgbz3vn-- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list