[gentoo-user] Anybody got OS/2 working under linux?

[gentoo-user] Anybody got OS/2 working under linux?

[Walter Dnes]

  I've got an old PII with a 3.2 gig drive (yes, the decimal point is
for real) that runs one OS/2 video game (Galactic Civilizations 2.5).
It's my only non-linux machine.  I've tried qemu (no luck) and bochs
(OS/2 boots 640x480, but Galciv crashes).  Has anybody got OS/2 hosted
and working on linux?  If so, how did you do it?

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RE: [gentoo-user] Anybody got OS/2 working under linux?

[Daevid Vincent]

Have you tried VMWare?

The workstation version has a free 30 day trial (just emerge it).

Then you can make a VM for OS/2 however you like it, and use the FREE VMWare
Player to continue indefinitely.

I suspect VMWare will work flawlessly for you -- it's pretty much the single
best piece of software ever written. 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Walter Dnes [mailto:waltdnes@waltdnes.org] 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 8:00 PM
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> Subject: [gentoo-user] Anybody got OS/2 working under linux?
> 
>   I've got an old PII with a 3.2 gig drive (yes, the decimal point is
> for real) that runs one OS/2 video game (Galactic Civilizations 2.5).
> It's my only non-linux machine.  I've tried qemu (no luck) and bochs
> (OS/2 boots 640x480, but Galciv crashes).  Has anybody got OS/2 hosted
> and working on linux?  If so, how did you do it?
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody got OS/2 working under linux?

[Steve Ringwald]

Daevid Vincent wrote:
> Have you tried VMWare?
>
> The workstation version has a free 30 day trial (just emerge it).
>
> Then you can make a VM for OS/2 however you like it, and use the FREE VMWare
> Player to continue indefinitely.
>
> I suspect VMWare will work flawlessly for you -- it's pretty much the single
> best piece of software ever written. 

There is also VMWare server, which is also free, and allows you to 
create new VMs. It also allows you to script things, and remotely 
control things (like starting/stopping/suspending VMs).

http://www.vmware.com/products/server/


Steve

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Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody got OS/2 working under linux?

[Alan]

On Wed, Nov 08, 2006 at 10:32:08PM -0800, Daevid Vincent wrote:
> Have you tried VMWare?
> 
> The workstation version has a free 30 day trial (just emerge it).
> 
> Then you can make a VM for OS/2 however you like it, and use the FREE VMWare
> Player to continue indefinitely.
> 
> I suspect VMWare will work flawlessly for you -- it's pretty much the single
> best piece of software ever written. 

I'm not sure.... I tried to install OS/2 under VMWare a while back and
at the time VMWare didn't support OS/2 (something about the memory
management or something).  Not sure if this has changed in the 5.x
series or not, but it's something to check.

Good luck though!


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Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody got OS/2 working under linux?

[Walter Dnes]

On Wed, Nov 08, 2006 at 10:32:08PM -0800, Daevid Vincent wrote
> Have you tried VMWare?
> 
> The workstation version has a free 30 day trial (just emerge it).
> 
> Then you can make a VM for OS/2 however you like it, and use the FREE VMWare
> Player to continue indefinitely.
> 
> I suspect VMWare will work flawlessly for you -- it's pretty much the single
> best piece of software ever written. 

  Thanks for making me look deeper.  I had originally looked at the list
of supported guest OS's, didn't see OS/2 there, and assumed the worst.
When I saw your email, I searched the vmware.com site for OS/2, looking
for the official "no such thing" statement to include in my reply.  I
did find some discussions on their forums about people who had
succeeded.  OS/2 is apparently not officially supported, but there are
undocumented parameters in the VMX file like...
GuestOS = "os2experimental"

  It looks like it can be done, depending on the phase of the moon, etc.
This could be interesting.

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[gentoo-user] RE: Anybody got OS/2 working under linux?

[Alexander Skwar]

Daevid Vincent <daevid@daevid.com>:

> Have you tried VMWare?
> 
> The workstation version has a free 30 day trial (just emerge it).

I'd suggest the VMware Server, which is available for free.

Alexander Skwar
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Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody got OS/2 working under linux?

[Thierry de Coulon]

On Thursday 09 November 2006 21:25, Alan wrote:
> I'm not sure.... I tried to install OS/2 under VMWare a while back and
> at the time VMWare didn't support OS/2 (something about the memory
> management or something).  Not sure if this has changed in the 5.x
> series or not, but it's something to check.

No, VMWare does not support OS/2 (a beta version did, but they stopped the 
development long ago). However, Parallels does, and it's a lot less 
expensive. I have eComStation working in a Parallels VM here.

Thierry
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Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody got OS/2 working under linux?

[Petric Frank]

Hello,

On Saturday 11 November 2006 01:26, Thierry de Coulon wrote:
> On Thursday 09 November 2006 21:25, Alan wrote:
> > I'm not sure.... I tried to install OS/2 under VMWare a while back and
> > at the time VMWare didn't support OS/2 (something about the memory
> > management or something).  Not sure if this has changed in the 5.x
> > series or not, but it's something to check.
>
> No, VMWare does not support OS/2 (a beta version did, but they stopped the
> development long ago). However, Parallels does, and it's a lot less
> expensive. I have eComStation working in a Parallels VM here.

I made a test install on a VMware Server installation (Host: AMD64 + Gentoo 
2006.1). I created a VM (OS type other). Then i exit the console, changed in 
the *.vmx file the key "guestOS" to guestOS="os2experimental" and start the 
installation of OS/2 Warp 4 (german) from CD. Somewhere in between i got two 
SYS... messages. After a reboot the install completes and seems to be ok now.

Hope that helps.

regards
   Petric
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Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody got OS/2 working under linux?

[Walter Dnes]

On Sat, Nov 11, 2006 at 09:00:09AM +0100, Petric Frank wrote

> I made a test install on a VMware Server installation (Host: AMD64 + Gentoo 
> 2006.1). I created a VM (OS type other). Then i exit the console, changed in 
> the *.vmx file the key "guestOS" to guestOS="os2experimental" and start the 
> installation of OS/2 Warp 4 (german) from CD. Somewhere in between i got two 
> SYS... messages. After a reboot the install completes and seems to be ok now.

  Before I go ahead, a few more questions...

  1) I have to allow a couple of ~x86 packages in package.keywords
first (yes, I did an "emerge --sync").  Is this expected?
=app-emulation/vmware-server-1.0.1.29996-r4 ~x86
=app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.15-r1 ~x86


  2) I notice that sys-libs/pam is loaded as a dependancy.  I don't mind
the file sitting there, being used by vmware.  Does it just affect
vmware?  If pam kicks in for other programs, it's a showstopper for me.

[m3000][root][~] emerge --ask vmware-server

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild  N    ] app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.15-r1
[ebuild  N    ] sys-apps/xinetd-2.3.14  USE="-perl -tcpd"
[ebuild  N    ] sys-libs/pam-0.78-r3  USE="-berkdb -nis -pam_chroot
-pam_console -pam_timestamp -pwdb (-selinux)"
[ebuild  N    ] app-emulation/vmware-server-1.0.1.29996-r4

Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No] no


  3) My current OS/2 machine is an old PII with a 3.2 gig harddrive.
Can I short-circuit the install by copying the working OS/2 system to
an empty VM?  Think of it as a "stage 3 install for OS/2" <g>.

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[gentoo-user] Re: Anybody got OS/2 working under linux?

[Alexander Skwar]

· Thierry de Coulon <tcoulon@decoulon.ch>:

> No, VMWare does not support OS/2 (a beta version did, but they stopped the 
> development long ago). However, Parallels does, and it's a lot less 
> expensive.

A lot less expensive than free?

They pay you to use the software? Or how is that supposed to be
understood?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody got OS/2 working under linux?

[Petric Frank]

Hello,

On Sunday 12 November 2006 07:03, Walter Dnes wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 11, 2006 at 09:00:09AM +0100, Petric Frank wrote
>
> > I made a test install on a VMware Server installation (Host: AMD64 +
> > Gentoo 2006.1). I created a VM (OS type other). Then i exit the console,
> > changed in the *.vmx file the key "guestOS" to guestOS="os2experimental"
> > and start the installation of OS/2 Warp 4 (german) from CD. Somewhere in
> > between i got two SYS... messages. After a reboot the install completes
> > and seems to be ok now.
>
>   Before I go ahead, a few more questions...
>
>   1) I have to allow a couple of ~x86 packages in package.keywords
> first (yes, I did an "emerge --sync").  Is this expected?
> =app-emulation/vmware-server-1.0.1.29996-r4 ~x86
> =app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.15-r1 ~x86

Same to me (except the version numbers, it's running - so why upgrading). I 
have the package vmware-server-console also installed. This is needed to get 
the mnagement tool (i.e. the window like vmware workstation).

>   2) I notice that sys-libs/pam is loaded as a dependancy.  I don't mind
> the file sitting there, being used by vmware.  Does it just affect
> vmware?  If pam kicks in for other programs, it's a showstopper for me.

VMware server is a two-part application. A user interface (vmware server 
console) and the daemon (vmware server). They are communicating via the 
network. As i see it there must be an user authentication and this is done 
via pam.
As feature you get now the ability to run the console on an other machine 
(which don't need much resources). This may be a Win**** or Linux PC.

> [m3000][root][~] emerge --ask vmware-server
>
> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
>
> Calculating dependencies... done!
> [ebuild  N    ] app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.15-r1
> [ebuild  N    ] sys-apps/xinetd-2.3.14  USE="-perl -tcpd"
> [ebuild  N    ] sys-libs/pam-0.78-r3  USE="-berkdb -nis -pam_chroot
> -pam_console -pam_timestamp -pwdb (-selinux)"
> [ebuild  N    ] app-emulation/vmware-server-1.0.1.29996-r4
>
> Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No] no

xinetd needed for the network communication, pam for the authentication.

If you want to get the frontend (User I/O) you need to install 
vmware-server-console also.

>   3) My current OS/2 machine is an old PII with a 3.2 gig harddrive.
> Can I short-circuit the install by copying the working OS/2 system to
> an empty VM?  Think of it as a "stage 3 install for OS/2" <g>.

Maybe, but you have to take care at least on the display driver. Here actually 
i have standard VGA 640x480 - if you get a better resolution let be know how.

regards
    Petric
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