[gentoo-user] Server installation

[gentoo-user] Server installation

[meewi]

Hi all,

I would like install Gentoo on my hosting-server. I have full root
access and running Gentoo on my desktop for more then a year now.

But what or where do we find a good guide/doc for installing Gentoo
from a distance when using an ssh connection.

Thanks in advance,
William.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Server installation

[Isern Palaus Montasell]

Hi meewi,
>
> But what or where do we find a good guide/doc for installing Gentoo
> from a distance when using an ssh connection.
>
>
>   
I think that it's easy. You need ssh access and a livecd (for example) 
to start installation like your computre. Simply i think.
I the remote compture you need configure the network and stard ssh 
service and connect from your compture.

Sorry for my school English.

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/index.xml

See you,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Server installation

[meewi]

Hi Isern,

First, no need to be sorry. Helping is very much more appreciated and
respected.

Only thing is. I have no CD-drive. The only way I can reach the server
is over the net.

Cheers,
William.


Op Wed, 01 Nov 2006 16:58:46 +0100
schreef Isern Palaus Montasell <isern.palaus@gmail.com>:

> Hi meewi,
> >
> > But what or where do we find a good guide/doc for installing Gentoo
> > from a distance when using an ssh connection.
> >
> >
> >   
> I think that it's easy. You need ssh access and a livecd (for
> example) to start installation like your computre. Simply i think.
> I the remote compture you need configure the network and stard ssh 
> service and connect from your compture.
> 
> Sorry for my school English.
> 
> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/index.xml
> 
> See you,
> -- Isern Palaus
> 


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Re: [gentoo-user] Server installation

[Bo Ørsted Andresen]

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On Wednesday 01 November 2006 17:36, meewi wrote:
> I would like install Gentoo on my hosting-server. I have full root
> access and running Gentoo on my desktop for more then a year now.
>
> But what or where do we find a good guide/doc for installing Gentoo
> from a distance when using an ssh connection.

If I recall correctly using the ordinary handbook [1] isn't really a problem. 
You may want to have a look at [2] also.

[1] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/index.xml
[2] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-x86-tipsntricks.xml#doc_chap3

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Re: [gentoo-user] Server installation

[Daniel da Veiga]

On 11/1/06, Bo Ørsted Andresen <bo.andresen@zlin.dk> wrote:
> On Wednesday 01 November 2006 17:36, meewi wrote:
> > I would like install Gentoo on my hosting-server. I have full root
> > access and running Gentoo on my desktop for more then a year now.
> >
> > But what or where do we find a good guide/doc for installing Gentoo
> > from a distance when using an ssh connection.
>
> If I recall correctly using the ordinary handbook [1] isn't really a problem.
> You may want to have a look at [2] also.
>
> [1] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/index.xml
> [2] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-x86-tipsntricks.xml#doc_chap3
>

All you need is someone to put the CD into the drive and boot it,
after that, you'll need this person to take the CD out after you are
ready to reboot for the first time. That is all the physical access
you need to the machine, the rest can be done over the network, and I
must say its even easier to follow the handbook and sshing into the
machine than using console (you can copy/paste the commands :).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Server installation

[Tim Garton]

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I've thought about doing this sort of thing in the past and I think it would
be pretty tricky if you want to do this completely remotely. (meaning not
using an installation cd)  This is how I thought about doing it:

Resize the partitions on your current hosting server to free up enough space
to create a temporary partition to install gentoo to.  So for example if
your current setup is the following running redhat:
/dev/sda1 - /boot (256MB)
/dev/sda2 - swap (1GB)
/dev/sda3 - / (80GB redhat)

you would want to resize so you can do the following:
/dev/sda1 - /boot (256MB)
/dev/sda2 - swap (1GB)
/dev/sda3 - / (75GB redhat)
/dev/sda4 - /mnt/gentoo (5GB temp to install gentoo to)

then you basically follow the handbook instructions as though you have
already booted from the minimal installation cd and install gentoo to
/mnt/gentoo, but don't reformat the /dev/sda1 partition.  Then, rather than
emerging grub, just modify your existing /boot/grub/menu.1st and add a
default entry for booting off of /dev/sda4 for gentoo.  Reboot and you
should boot into your new temporary gentoo installation on /dev/sda4.  You
can now get rid of /dev/sda1-3, create new partitions however you like
(excluding  the 5GB /dev/sda4 which you are currently running off of) format
them, and follow the handbook instructions as though you just booted from
the minimal installation cd.  Once you've done this and rebooted into your
newly installed gentoo, you can delete /dev/sda4 and recapture that space to
whatever partition you really installed gentoo to.

The problem I see with this is you would be editing the fs tables of a drive
you are currently running off of.  If that doesn't work I guess you could
set up a boot option that uses a RAM filesystem for the root /, and then you
wouldn't be running off of any drives and could therefore fdisk to your
hearts content.  Whatever you decide, you should probably do a test run on a
box you have locally, since one screwup means you or someone else is going
to have to physically be at the hosted server to fix it.

Tim

On 11/1/06, meewi <nuke@meewi.be> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I would like install Gentoo on my hosting-server. I have full root
> access and running Gentoo on my desktop for more then a year now.
>
> But what or where do we find a good guide/doc for installing Gentoo
> from a distance when using an ssh connection.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> William.
>
>
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Re: [gentoo-user] Server installation

[meewi]

Hi Tim,

That's spot on. At least as far as I know.

The reason why I want to give it a go, is that Gentoo is the only
distribution so far that managed to keep on running without screwing
itself up. In other words, the only stable one. For almost two years
now I have Gentoo running at home, with only 1 complete new and fresh
installation. The difference is considerably compared to other
distributions. Debian-based distro's for instance keep running, only
don't update after a while. SuSE has a nice installer and very good
hardware support out of the box for every type of user. Only with every
new version there is always something that changes within your
configuration trying to screw things up. Then the RedHat ones, I never
got those running completely at home, and never got past one month
on-line for my server. So it's back to Debian or give Gentoo a go.

Any how, thanks for your answer, and all my best,
William.

Op Wed, 1 Nov 2006 09:49:55 -0800
schreef "Tim Garton" <garton.tim@gmail.com>:

> I've thought about doing this sort of thing in the past and I think
> it would be pretty tricky if you want to do this completely remotely.
> (meaning not using an installation cd)  This is how I thought about
> doing it:
> 
> Resize the partitions on your current hosting server to free up
> enough space to create a temporary partition to install gentoo to.
> So for example if your current setup is the following running redhat:
> /dev/sda1 - /boot (256MB)
> /dev/sda2 - swap (1GB)
> /dev/sda3 - / (80GB redhat)
> 
> you would want to resize so you can do the following:
> /dev/sda1 - /boot (256MB)
> /dev/sda2 - swap (1GB)
> /dev/sda3 - / (75GB redhat)
> /dev/sda4 - /mnt/gentoo (5GB temp to install gentoo to)
> 
> then you basically follow the handbook instructions as though you have
> already booted from the minimal installation cd and install gentoo to
> /mnt/gentoo, but don't reformat the /dev/sda1 partition.  Then,
> rather than emerging grub, just modify your
> existing /boot/grub/menu.1st and add a default entry for booting off
> of /dev/sda4 for gentoo.  Reboot and you should boot into your new
> temporary gentoo installation on /dev/sda4.  You can now get rid
> of /dev/sda1-3, create new partitions however you like (excluding
> the 5GB /dev/sda4 which you are currently running off of) format
> them, and follow the handbook instructions as though you just booted
> from the minimal installation cd.  Once you've done this and rebooted
> into your newly installed gentoo, you can delete /dev/sda4 and
> recapture that space to whatever partition you really installed
> gentoo to.
> 
> The problem I see with this is you would be editing the fs tables of
> a drive you are currently running off of.  If that doesn't work I
> guess you could set up a boot option that uses a RAM filesystem for
> the root /, and then you wouldn't be running off of any drives and
> could therefore fdisk to your hearts content.  Whatever you decide,
> you should probably do a test run on a box you have locally, since
> one screwup means you or someone else is going to have to physically
> be at the hosted server to fix it.
> 
> Tim
> 
> On 11/1/06, meewi <nuke@meewi.be> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I would like install Gentoo on my hosting-server. I have full root
> > access and running Gentoo on my desktop for more then a year now.
> >
> > But what or where do we find a good guide/doc for installing Gentoo
> > from a distance when using an ssh connection.
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > William.
> >
> >
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> >


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Re: [gentoo-user] Server installation

[Tim Garton]

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meewi,
    One other thing to be careful of is always making sure you have
networking configured before each reboot to make sure the new
partition/setup you boot into works correctly.  It would be a bummer to get
gentoo completely partitioned and setup correctly, but forget to change
/etc/conf.d/net to tell it to use a static ip (if for instance your hosted
machine is supposed to use a static ip) and have it boot into gentoo but not
have networking working.

If you decide to give it a go, let use know how it turns out.  I'd be
interested in pitfalls and gotcha's you run into in case I need to do the
same thing in the future.

Tim

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Re: [gentoo-user] Server installation

[Novensiles divi Flamen]

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That partition shrinking method is described here : 
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Convert_A_RedHat_Server_to_Gentoo_Remotely

Good luck with it!

- Noven
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