From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1GevN3-0000R2-W8 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 15:17:46 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.6) with SMTP id k9VFFZ9A028259; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 15:15:35 GMT Received: from cranium.sybase.co.za (sqlprd.sybase.co.za [192.96.139.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9VFC7fq016058 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 15:12:09 GMT Received: from localhost (cranium.sybase.co.za [127.0.0.1]) by cranium.sybase.co.za (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04E1683426 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 12:19:26 +0200 (SAST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at sybase.co.za Received: from cranium.sybase.co.za ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (cranium.sybase.co.za [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yrXjvKo0NDpL for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 12:19:17 +0200 (SAST) Received: from bard.sybase.co.za (bard.sybase.co.za [192.168.2.6]) by cranium.sybase.co.za (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB5E583423 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 12:19:17 +0200 (SAST) Received: from [192.168.2.130] ([192.168.2.130]) by bard.sybase.co.za with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 31 Oct 2006 17:13:53 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] BIG reiserfs problem Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 17:13:27 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <200610310917.48293.alan@linuxholdings.co.za> <200610311104.01802.uwix@iway.na> In-Reply-To: <200610311104.01802.uwix@iway.na> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200610311713.27803.alan@linuxholdings.co.za> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Oct 2006 15:13:53.0640 (UTC) FILETIME=[2D78F680:01C6FCFF] X-Archives-Salt: c7025685-6b3b-4cfb-b843-c99a271ffc08 X-Archives-Hash: e86c0501901b595ddb390bfd541785d8 On Tuesday 31 October 2006 11:04, Uwe Thiem wrote: > On 31 October 2006 09:17, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > I find it useful to keep in mind that XFS is a file-system (i.e. a > > system for files), and not necessarily a severly disk-bound > > filesystem > > Would you mind to elaborate on this? I simply do not get your point. Historically SGI was very strong in graphics, and those applicatiosn tended to generate massive amounts of temporary files that had a short life and only the final version needs to be written to persistent storage, very well suited to aggressive caching and other similar speedups. SGI's engineers could get away with this because they could guarantee that power loss to the machine wouldn't happen, so the potential data loss on a power outage didn't happen either. This sounds a bit weird to those of us raised on Intel where we pay close attention to getting everything on disk ASAP with as little performance loss as possible, but it's a perfectly reasonable system for an engineer to implement on the kind of hardware SGI were building. That's why I say XFS is designed to not be tightly bound to the physical disk if the admin chooses to set it up that way, and the file system becomes more of a collection of directories and files that might never even be stored on a disk at all alan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list