[gentoo-user] Re: ADSL CONNECTION PROBLEMS

[gentoo-user] Re: ADSL CONNECTION PROBLEMS

[Mick]

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On Monday 30 October 2006 09:52, GEORGE ZERVAS wrote:
> Μιχάλη, αυτή την περίοδο δεν έχω ADSL γραμμή, γιαυτό δεν επικοινωνούμε.
> Ελπίζω σύντομα να αποκατασταθεί η σύνδεση. Διέκοψα την παλαιά και έκανα
> αίτηση για καινούργια φθηνότερη. Θέλω την άποψή σου, να ζητήσω σταθερή IP,
> χωρίς επιπλέον χρηματική επιβάρυνση??
> Αυτή τη περίοδο κατεβάζω τα e-mail μόνο με dial-up.

Γιωργο μου, νομιζω οτι μια στατικη IP ειναι χρησιμη οταν χρειαζεται να 
συνδεθεις απο μακρια με το γραφειο σου.  Παραδειγματος χαρην, μπορει καποτε 
να χρειαστεις να εχεις ενα σερβερ στο γραφειο σου, ετσι ωστε να συνδεωνται 
πελατες για να ανεβαζουν/κατεβαζουν αρχεια.  Επισης, μπορεις να εχεις ενα PC 
στο γραφειο σου το οποιο να τρεχει CAD και να συνδεεσαι απο το σπιτι σου, η 
απο αλλο γραφειο με Real VNC, η Remote Desktop, για να συνεχισεις την 
εργασεια σου σαν να εισουν μπροστα στο ιδιο το κομπιουτερ του γραφειου.

Επισης, εαν συνδεεσαι με WiFi απο καφενεια (π.χ. Starbucks) και αεροδρομια, 
μπορεις πιο ευκολα να συνδεθεις με VPN (OpenSSH) στο γραφειο σου, μεσω ενος 
encrypted tunnel ωστε να κατεβασεις emails και να ψαξεις το Ιντερνετ με 
απολυτη ασφαλεια και μυστικοτητα.

Επομενως, εαν η στατικη IP ειναι δωρεαν εγω σου συστηνω να την ζητισεις.
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Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ADSL CONNECTION PROBLEMS

[Hans de Hartog]

Mick wrote:
> On Monday 30 October 2006 09:52, GEORGE ZERVAS wrote:
> 
>>Μιχάλη, αυτή την περίοδο δεν έχω ADSL γραμμή, γιαυτό δεν επικοινωνούμε.
>>Ελπίζω σύντομα να αποκατασταθεί η σύνδεση. Διέκοψα την παλαιά και έκανα
>>αίτηση για καινούργια φθηνότερη. Θέλω την άποψή σου, να ζητήσω σταθερή IP,
>>χωρίς επιπλέον χρηματική επιβάρυνση??
>>Αυτή τη περίοδο κατεβάζω τα e-mail μόνο με dial-up.
> 
> 
> Γιωργο μου, νομιζω οτι μια στατικη IP ειναι χρησιμη οταν χρειαζεται να 
> συνδεθεις απο μακρια με το γραφειο σου.  Παραδειγματος χαρην, μπορει καποτε 
> να χρειαστεις να εχεις ενα σερβερ στο γραφειο σου, ετσι ωστε να συνδεωνται 
> πελατες για να ανεβαζουν/κατεβαζουν αρχεια.  Επισης, μπορεις να εχεις ενα PC 
> στο γραφειο σου το οποιο να τρεχει CAD και να συνδεεσαι απο το σπιτι σου, η 
> απο αλλο γραφειο με Real VNC, η Remote Desktop, για να συνεχισεις την 
> εργασεια σου σαν να εισουν μπροστα στο ιδιο το κομπιουτερ του γραφειου.
> 
> Επισης, εαν συνδεεσαι με WiFi απο καφενεια (π.χ. Starbucks) και αεροδρομια, 
> μπορεις πιο ευκολα να συνδεθεις με VPN (OpenSSH) στο γραφειο σου, μεσω ενος 
> encrypted tunnel ωστε να κατεβασεις emails και να ψαξεις το Ιντερνετ με 
> απολυτη ασφαλεια και μυστικοτητα.
> 
> Επομενως, εαν η στατικη IP ειναι δωρεαν εγω σου συστηνω να την ζητισεις.

There are more connection problems involved here :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] ADSL CONNECTION PROBLEMS

[Mick]

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On Monday 30 October 2006 18:01, Hans de Hartog wrote:
> Mick wrote:

[snip]
> There are more connection problems involved here :-)

Indeed!  Why when I just hit Reply to a message, I end up posting it in the 
gentoo-user mailing list?!  This has happened a couple of times so far.  The 
strange thing is that on some of these cases the messages were not even sent 
to my gmail.com account.  A common theme may have something to do with me 
selecting the "Send Later" feature which is useful when I am composing the 
reply offline.  Ahh, the mysteries of Kmail . . .  :)

Has anyone else noticed this behaviour with their messages?
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Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] ADSL CONNECTION PROBLEMS

[Hans de Hartog]

Mick wrote:

> Indeed!  Why when I just hit Reply to a message, I end up posting it in the 
> gentoo-user mailing list?!  This has happened a couple of times so far.  The 
> strange thing is that on some of these cases the messages were not even sent 
> to my gmail.com account.  A common theme may have something to do with me 
> selecting the "Send Later" feature which is useful when I am composing the 
> reply offline.  Ahh, the mysteries of Kmail . . .  :)
> 
> Has anyone else noticed this behaviour with their messages?

It's default. Look at the headers of the mailmessages you get from
the mailing-list. It says: "Reply-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org"
which means: if you hit the reply-button, it will be sent to the
mailing list.


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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] ADSL CONNECTION PROBLEMS

[Mick]

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On Monday 30 October 2006 19:05, Hans de Hartog wrote:
> Mick wrote:
> > Indeed!  Why when I just hit Reply to a message, I end up posting it in
> > the gentoo-user mailing list?!  This has happened a couple of times so
> > far.  The strange thing is that on some of these cases the messages were
> > not even sent to my gmail.com account.  A common theme may have something
> > to do with me selecting the "Send Later" feature which is useful when I
> > am composing the reply offline.  Ahh, the mysteries of Kmail . . .  :)
> >
> > Has anyone else noticed this behaviour with their messages?
>
> It's default. Look at the headers of the mailmessages you get from
> the mailing-list. It says: "Reply-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org"
> which means: if you hit the reply-button, it will be sent to the
> mailing list.

Of course, but this is only default for messages received from the list.  Not 
messages received directly from individuals who have nothing to do with this 
ML.
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Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] ADSL CONNECTION PROBLEMS

[Etaoin Shrdlu]

On Monday 30 October 2006 19:54, Mick wrote:

> Indeed!  Why when I just hit Reply to a message, I end up posting it
> in the gentoo-user mailing list?!  This has happened a couple of times
> so far.  The strange thing is that on some of these cases the messages
> were not even sent to my gmail.com account.  A common theme may have
> something to do with me selecting the "Send Later" feature which is
> useful when I am composing the reply offline.  Ahh, the mysteries of
> Kmail . . .  :)
>
> Has anyone else noticed this behaviour with their messages?

Don't know about the rest, but the "send later" feature has hit me in the 
past, too. What can happen is that a message you suspend with "send 
later" actually gets sent automatically after a few, if, 
in "settings->configure kmail->accounts->sending->send messages in 
outbox folder", you have "on manual mail checks" or "on all mail 
checks".
(Remember that "send later" puts the message in the outbox folder, not in 
the drafts folder).

So, to avoid surprises, either use "save in drafts folder" instead 
of "send later", or use "never automatically" for the above setting.
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] ADSL CONNECTION PROBLEMS

[Mick]

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On Monday 30 October 2006 19:42, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:

> Don't know about the rest, but the "send later" feature has hit me in the
> past, too. What can happen is that a message you suspend with "send
> later" actually gets sent automatically after a few, if,
> in "settings->configure kmail->accounts->sending->send messages in
> outbox folder", you have "on manual mail checks" or "on all mail
> checks".
> (Remember that "send later" puts the message in the outbox folder, not in
> the drafts folder).
>
> So, to avoid surprises, either use "save in drafts folder" instead
> of "send later", or use "never automatically" for the above setting.

Thanks, I have set all my accounts to "Confirm before send" and "Never 
automatically".  It seems that the second message in the queue in the Outbox 
follows the first, quite literally, to the same "Send To:" address and 
through the same smtp server.  It seems to me that I need to test this a bit 
more . . . 

Meanwhile, I think I'll stick with 'Save in Drafts' for now.
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Mick

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