From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1GeDEg-0007PP-UQ for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 29 Oct 2006 16:10:11 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.6) with SMTP id k9TG745F005956; Sun, 29 Oct 2006 16:07:04 GMT Received: from mailout2.igs.net (mailout2.igs.net [216.58.97.88]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9TG4Y1V027967 for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2006 16:04:34 GMT Received: from waltdnes.org (unknown [209.195.72.174]) by mailout2.igs.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 8136F47EFFF for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2006 11:04:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by waltdnes.org (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 29 Oct 2006 11:05:15 -0500 From: "Walter Dnes" Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 11:05:15 -0500 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xmms alternative Message-ID: <20061029160515.GA27968@waltdnes.org> References: <20061023080808.0e31ed69@katana.armory.no-ip.org> <200610271227.52527.harmgeerts@home.nl> <20061028013503.GA13455@waltdnes.org> <200610281918.04198.harmgeerts@home.nl> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200610281918.04198.harmgeerts@home.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Archives-Salt: 8b6d5580-1c9a-4188-8644-62da53589836 X-Archives-Hash: c192b4d807632126bdb5a09a4f0294e5 On Sat, Oct 28, 2006 at 07:18:04PM +0200, Harm Geerts wrote > You don't insult the program, you insult the people behind it. No such thing. I was stating that amarok is extreme overkill for simple streaming audio playing. It is aimed at a totally different target market. I'm not slagging amarok for that, all valid markets have the same right to be served. But it simply doesn't belong in ***THIS*** discussion. > But even worse is that you based your *opinion* on a screenshot and > the dependencies without even touching the program... and then tell > the whole world it sucks. I didn't say it sucks, I said it was extreme overkill for replacing xmms. I believe the list of dependancies is a valid criterion to judge a program by. And I based my opinion on more than a screenshot. I actually did some RTFM. ***ACCORDING TO AMAROK'S OWN WEBSITE*** at http://amarok.kde.org/content/view/51/1/ amarok features include... # Quick and simple drag and drop playlist creation # Super eye-candy interface # Multiple backends supported ( xine, helix and NMM) # 10 band equalizer # Automatic cover art download using Amazon services # The unique and powerful Context Browser # Automatic play-statistics generation (iRate style) # Full lyrics download # Read about your bands with embedded wikipedia browsing! # Funky visualisations from libvisual and XMMS # KDE integration # Streaming MP3 streams, including Last.fm streams. # Crossfading # Podcasting Support # Fully configurable translucent OSD for track changes # K3B (CD-burning) integration # Style your Context Browser with custom CSS styles # Save space in your Context Browser with collapsable boxes # Show the Context Browser without Amarok open through the Konqueror sidebar! # Full support for Last.FM! Share your music taste with friends on the net # Generate dynamic playlists based on last.fm suggestions # Support for SQLite, MySQL and PostgreSQL databases ensuring fast collection access # Support for your iPod, iRiver, PlaysForSure, NJB, and generic USB device with the all new media-browser # Powerful scripting interface, allowing for easy extension of Amarok # Complete DCOP access I consider "Super eye-candy interface" and "Funky visualisations" as insults against a program. The amarok website is ***BRAGGING*** about them. I am obviously not their target market. > Amarok is not a replacement, amarok is an alternative, which is > exactly what this thread is about. Amarok brings along a lot of excess baggage compared to xmms. At some point, it crosses the line of being too much. -- Walter Dnes In linux /sbin/init is Job #1 My musings on technology and security at http://techsec.blog.ca -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list