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From: "Walter Dnes" <waltdnes@waltdnes.org>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xmms alternative
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 11:05:15 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061029160515.GA27968@waltdnes.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200610281918.04198.harmgeerts@home.nl>

On Sat, Oct 28, 2006 at 07:18:04PM +0200, Harm Geerts wrote

> You don't insult the program, you insult the people behind it.

  No such thing.  I was stating that amarok is extreme overkill for
simple streaming audio playing.  It is aimed at a totally different
target market.  I'm not slagging amarok for that, all valid markets
have the same right to be served.  But it simply doesn't belong in
***THIS*** discussion.

> But even worse is that you based your *opinion* on a screenshot and
> the dependencies without even touching the program... and then tell
> the whole world it sucks.

  I didn't say it sucks, I said it was extreme overkill for replacing
xmms.  I believe the list of dependancies is a valid criterion to judge
a program by.  And I based my opinion on more than a screenshot.  I
actually did some RTFM.  ***ACCORDING TO AMAROK'S OWN WEBSITE*** at
http://amarok.kde.org/content/view/51/1/  amarok features include...

# Quick and simple drag and drop playlist creation
# Super eye-candy interface
# Multiple backends supported ( xine, helix and NMM)
# 10 band equalizer
# Automatic cover art download using Amazon services
# The unique and powerful Context Browser
# Automatic play-statistics generation (iRate style)
# Full lyrics download
# Read about your bands with embedded wikipedia browsing!
# Funky visualisations from libvisual and XMMS
# KDE integration
# Streaming MP3 streams, including Last.fm streams.
# Crossfading
# Podcasting Support
# Fully configurable translucent OSD for track changes
# K3B (CD-burning) integration
# Style your Context Browser with custom CSS styles
# Save space in your Context Browser with collapsable boxes
# Show the Context Browser without Amarok open through the Konqueror sidebar!
# Full support for Last.FM! Share your music taste with friends on the net
# Generate dynamic playlists based on last.fm suggestions
# Support for SQLite, MySQL and PostgreSQL databases ensuring fast collection access
# Support for your iPod, iRiver, PlaysForSure, NJB, and generic USB device with the all new media-browser
# Powerful scripting interface, allowing for easy extension of Amarok
# Complete DCOP access

  I consider "Super eye-candy interface" and "Funky visualisations" as
insults against a program.  The amarok website is ***BRAGGING*** about
them.  I am obviously not their target market.

> Amarok is not a replacement, amarok is an alternative, which is
> exactly what this thread is about.

  Amarok brings along a lot of excess baggage compared to xmms.  At some
point, it crosses the line of being too much.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-10-29 16:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-10-23 12:08 [gentoo-user] xmms alternative Dave V
2006-10-23 12:39 ` Kristian Poul Herkild
2006-10-23 15:27   ` Uwe Thiem
2006-10-23 16:06     ` Mick
2006-10-23 16:26       ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2006-10-23 19:03         ` Mick
2006-10-23 20:59           ` Richard Fish
2006-10-23 21:58             ` Mick
2006-10-23 22:11               ` Richard Fish
2006-10-24  6:01             ` Graham Murray
2006-10-24  6:02             ` [gentoo-user] " Alexander Skwar
2006-10-24  6:11               ` Richard Fish
2006-10-24 19:01                 ` [gentoo-user] " Alexander Skwar
2006-10-23 13:11 ` [gentoo-user] " Ilya Hegai
2006-10-23 13:13 ` Arnau Bria
2006-10-23  7:59   ` david
2006-10-23 20:09     ` Mark Knecht
2006-10-23 15:10   ` Korthrun
2006-10-23 15:23     ` Arnau Bria
2006-10-23 21:26       ` b.n.
2006-10-23 20:51   ` Richard Fish
2006-10-28  5:44   ` Dotan Cohen
2006-10-28  6:30     ` Sarah
2006-10-28  7:37       ` Myk Taylor
2006-10-28  8:32         ` Graham Murray
2006-10-28 16:39       ` [gentoo-user] " Harm Geerts
2006-10-28 20:25         ` Chris Atkinson
2006-10-23 17:02 ` [gentoo-user] " Hemmann, Volker Armin
2006-10-23 17:33   ` Robert Cernansky
2006-10-23 18:03     ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2006-10-24  0:04       ` Daniel D Jones
2006-10-24  1:41         ` Dale
2006-10-24  2:26           ` Meino Christian Cramer
2006-10-24  2:37             ` Richard Fish
2006-10-24  9:59         ` Neil Bothwick
2006-10-24 10:21           ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2006-10-24 12:09             ` Neil Bothwick
2006-10-24 20:59             ` Willie Wong
2006-10-24 21:29               ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2006-10-25  6:49                 ` Mick
2006-10-25 12:30                   ` Robin Atwood
2006-10-25 18:35                   ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2006-10-24 23:09               ` Daniel Barkalow
2006-10-23 19:14     ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2006-10-27  4:00       ` Walter Dnes
2006-10-27  4:26         ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2006-10-27  5:03           ` Mark Knecht
2006-10-27  6:45             ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2006-10-27  6:20         ` Daniel Barkalow
2006-10-27 10:46           ` Mark Kirkwood
2006-10-27 15:25             ` sean
2006-10-27 19:01               ` Robert Cernansky
2006-10-27 12:20           ` Michael Sullivan
2006-10-27 10:27         ` [gentoo-user] " Harm Geerts
2006-10-27 10:42           ` Chris Walters
2006-10-26 23:26             ` david
2006-10-28  1:35           ` Walter Dnes
2006-10-28  8:57             ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2006-10-28  9:07             ` Robert Cernansky
2006-10-28 23:17               ` [gentoo-user] Is there a simple .pls audio mp3-playing app? Walter Dnes
2006-10-29  1:50                 ` Ryan Tandy
2006-10-30 12:33                   ` Hans-Werner Hilse
2006-10-28 17:18             ` [gentoo-user] Re: xmms alternative Harm Geerts
2006-10-28 20:25               ` b.n.
2006-10-29 16:05               ` Walter Dnes [this message]
2006-10-29 16:18                 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2006-10-29 16:40                 ` Colleen Beamer
2006-10-29 17:12                   ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2006-10-29 23:25                     ` Colleen Beamer
2006-10-28  8:44 ` [gentoo-user] " Chuanwen Wu

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