From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1GddA0-0004eC-D3 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 28 Oct 2006 01:38:56 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.6) with SMTP id k9S1aSe2002614; Sat, 28 Oct 2006 01:36:28 GMT Received: from mailout2.igs.net (mailout2.igs.net [216.58.97.88]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9S1YS62015106 for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2006 01:34:29 GMT Received: from waltdnes.org (i216-58-61-42.cybersurf.com [216.58.61.42]) by mailout2.igs.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 3B5D847F189 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 21:34:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by waltdnes.org (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 27 Oct 2006 21:35:03 -0400 From: "Walter Dnes" Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 21:35:03 -0400 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xmms alternative Message-ID: <20061028013503.GA13455@waltdnes.org> References: <20061023080808.0e31ed69@katana.armory.no-ip.org> <200610232114.06442.volker.armin.hemmann@tu-clausthal.de> <20061027040054.GA11950@waltdnes.org> <200610271227.52527.harmgeerts@home.nl> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200610271227.52527.harmgeerts@home.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Archives-Salt: 6cb8ee7e-d98e-4636-b1b4-53a99645ba9f X-Archives-Hash: c3b1dd352affd2155c0c43dbdb99cb86 On Fri, Oct 27, 2006 at 12:27:52PM +0200, Harm Geerts wrote > On Friday 27 October 2006 06:00, Walter Dnes wrote: > > amarok ==> Even worse than xine. It's a Windows Media Player wannabee > > bloated frontend that ends up launching xine. In addition to building > > xinelib, it also builds kde-base, ruby, and a bunch of other junk. > > Amarok is Microsofts wet dream. > Amarok has so much more to offer. That insult against Amarok is stronger than anything else I can think of, and beautifully explains exactly what I find wrong with it. Amarok constitutes a replacement for xmms just like an 18-wheeler tractor-trailer combo constitutes a replacement for a half-ton pickup truck. If I wanted xine, I would emerge xine-ui... [m3000][root][~] emerge --ask xine-ui These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N ] dev-libs/libcdio-0.77 USE="-cddb -minimal -nls -nocxx" [ebuild N ] media-video/vcdimager-0.7.23 USE="-minimal -xml" [ebuild N ] media-libs/xine-lib-1.1.2-r2 USE="X a52 aac alsa dvd flac mng opengl sdl theora vcd vorbis win32codecs xv -aalib (-altivec) -arts -asf -debug -directfb -dts -dxr3 -esd -fbcon -gnome -imagemagick -ipv6 -libcaca -mad -modplug -nls -oss -samba -speex -v4l -vidix -xinerama -xvmc" VIDEO_CARDS="-i810 -nvidia -via" [ebuild N ] media-video/xine-ui-0.99.4-r5 USE="X ncurses readline -aalib -curl -libcaca -lirc -nls -vdr" Not only do I not want to emerge xine-lib, I don't want to emerge ruby and most of KDE, either. [m3000][root][~] emerge --ask amarok These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N ] dev-libs/libcdio-0.77 USE="-cddb -minimal -nls -nocxx" [ebuild N ] media-video/vcdimager-0.7.23 USE="-minimal -xml" [ebuild N ] media-libs/xine-lib-1.1.2-r2 USE="X a52 aac alsa dvd flac mng opengl sdl theora vcd vorbis win32codecs xv -aalib (-altivec) -arts -asf -debug -directfb -dts -dxr3 -esd -fbcon -gnome -imagemagick -ipv6 -libcaca -mad -modplug -nls -oss -samba -speex -v4l -vidix -xinerama -xvmc" VIDEO_CARDS="-i810 -nvidia -via" [ebuild N ] dev-ruby/ruby-config-0.3.1 [ebuild N ] dev-lang/ruby-1.8.5 USE="threads -cjk -debug -doc -examples -ipv6 -socks5 -tk" [ebuild N ] x11-libs/qt-3.3.6-r3 USE="gif opengl -cups -debug -doc -examples -firebird -immqt -immqt-bc -ipv6 -mysql -nas -nis -odbc -postgres -sqlite -xinerama" [ebuild N ] dev-libs/libpcre-6.6 USE="-doc" [ebuild N ] kde-base/kde-env-3-r4 [ebuild N ] app-admin/gamin-0.1.7 USE="-debug -doc" [ebuild N ] kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.2-r6 USE="alsa tiff -acl -arts -cups -debug -doc -jpeg2k -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -kerberos -legacyssl -openexr -spell -ssl -xinerama -zeroconf" [ebuild N ] media-libs/taglib-1.4 USE="-debug" [ebuild N ] media-sound/amarok-1.4.3-r1 USE="aac opengl -arts -debug -ifp -ipod -kde -mysql -njb -noamazon -postgres -real -visualization -xinerama -xmms" LINGUAS="-az -bg -br -ca -cs -cy -da -de -el -en_GB -es -et -fi -fr -ga -gl -he -hi -hu -is -it -ja -ka -km -ko -lt -ms -nb -nl -nn -pa -pl -pt -pt_BR -ro -ru -rw -sl -sr -sr@Latn -sv -ta -tg -th -tr -uk -uz -zh_CN -zh_TW" > Anyway, like Daniel said, audacious is what you want. [m3000][root][~] emerge --ask audacious These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N ] media-libs/taglib-1.4 USE="-debug" [ebuild N ] media-libs/musicbrainz-2.1.4 [ebuild N ] dev-cpp/libbinio-1.4 [ebuild N ] media-sound/audacious-1.1.2-r1 USE="aac alsa flac mmx mp3 vorbis wma -arts -chardet -esd -gnome -jack -lirc -modplug -musepack -nls -oss -sid -sndfile -timidity" Much better, I'll try it. -- Walter Dnes In linux /sbin/init is Job #1 My musings on technology and security at http://techsec.blog.ca -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list