[gentoo-user] Fwd: Free Software Hackers/Tweakers needed for Install Project

[gentoo-user] Fwd: Free Software Hackers/Tweakers needed for Install Project

[Selso DaSilva]

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From: Selso DaSilva <selsok@yahoo.com>
Date: Oct 19, 2006 11:17 AM
Subject: Free Software Hackers/Tweakers needed for Install Project
To: cfsg-forum@cfsg.org, selsok@gmail.com


Hello world,
 Right now CFSG has some computer hardware that it would like to
clean up and donate to kids. Of course we are going to use free
software, but because of the hardware specs (listed below) we
would need to tweak the hell out of it, and that where we need
your help. So please if you have the time and might be able to
provide the resources we might need please don't be shy, chime
in.

System Spec.
Dell Optiplex GXa,366MHz, 64MB - 128MB RAM,1 Gig - 6 Gig HD,
CDROM,onboard NIC,Sound Card,and Video.

The idea is simple(execution is a whole different story), I
will add "My Comments" (MC) at the end of each steps for the
"Install meet". We will be tweaking one to three systems, then
imaging the HD to the other systems. We have a total of 20 -
30 computers to Image when finished.

First we pick and OS, your choices are Gentoo or Debian.
MC: I am personally leaning towards debian because I know it
   but we all know the benefits of Gentoo. But on hardware
   this slow it would take us days maybe weeks to finish
   the system.

Second we do a MINIMAL installation of the OS, so we could
recompile the kernel for the hardware and speed.
MC: For this we need a someone familiar with the kernel in the
   OS of choice. I personally know 2.4 for debian best, but
   I would like to use 2.6 seeing how stable it has become.
   Also because it detects hardware a little better than 2.4,
   at least for me.

Third we put X, on the system and tweak it. Next we use a
low memory but simple to use window manager.
MC: I am sill not sure on which version of Xorg I want to
   use 6.9 or 7.1.  The window managers I had in mind were
   black box, fluxbox, Xfce, icewm, window maker, and
   gnome (depending on memory).

Fourth we install and tweak the applications.
MC: This is tricky because the applications, I would like to
   use is follow

   For a Day Care center
   gcompris http://gcompris.net/-en-
   child's play http://childsplay.sourceforge.net/
   TuxType http://tuxtype.sourceforge.net/
   Tux Paint http://www.tux paint.org/
   bugsquish http://www.newbreedsoftware.com/bugsquish/
   Brickout http://www.newbreedsoftware.com/brickout/
   Frozen Bubble http://www.frozen-bubble.org/
   Linux Letters and Numbers http://lln.sourceforge.net/
   and other little games.

   Of course the web browser we use, should be able to view
   these web sites.
   http://nickjr.com
   http://pbskids.org/sesame/
   http://www.noggin.com/

   For a office work station,we need a word processor,
   spread sheet, email client, spell checker, web browser,
   PDF/PS viewer/maker, calender, IM client, and something
   to edit graphics.

   Gnome Office http://www.gnome.org/gnome-office/
   Balsa http://balsa.gnome.org/
   Sylpheed http://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/en/
   (depends on memory)
   Thunderbird
   Open Office org http://www.openoffice.org/index.html
   Evolution http://www.gnome.org/projects/evolution/


If you would like to help please feel free to email this list,
so we can plan a location, day and time. I you are on a mailing
list please re-post this to that list.

Lets start talking!
Thanks
Selso DaSilva
Community Free Software Group, Inc.
New York
http://cfsg.org


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Re: [gentoo-user] Fwd: Free Software Hackers/Tweakers needed for Install Project

[Hemmann, Volker Armin]

On Thursday 19 October 2006 18:20, Selso DaSilva wrote:


>
> Third we put X, on the system and tweak it. Next we use a
> low memory but simple to use window manager.
> MC: I am sill not sure on which version of Xorg I want to
>    use 6.9 or 7.1.  The window managers I had in mind were
>    black box, fluxbox, Xfce, icewm, window maker, and
>    gnome (depending on memory).

since memory is a problem, gnome is the wrong choice. It is the biggest memory 
hog of all:
http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/

Since you certainly want some sort of kiosk mode, so the children can not 
destroy the installation, you also want a DE with a working Kiosk-mode 
implementation. Gnome's sucks. KDE's works:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=kde-devel&m=116072498907866&w=2

>    Gnome Office http://www.gnome.org/gnome-office/

There is no 'gnome office' - just a bunch of bad integrated apps.

Read the ktown-link, gnome+abiword needs more ram than kde+koffice.

>    Open Office org http://www.openoffice.org/index.html

and you certainly don't want openoffice, which is incredibly slow AND bloated. 
It needs ~100mb ram alone!

KDE has kdeedu - has gnome something similar?
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