From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1GaGg3-0004xY-Nn for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 19:02:08 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.6) with SMTP id k9IIxjEn016752; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:59:45 GMT Received: from Mail.Math.Princeton.EDU (mail.math.Princeton.EDU [128.112.18.14]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9IIvak5013362 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:57:36 GMT Received: from math.Princeton.EDU (math.Princeton.EDU [128.112.18.16]) by Mail.Math.Princeton.EDU (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k9IIvZxO031050 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:57:35 -0400 Received: from math.Princeton.EDU (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by math.Princeton.EDU (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k9IIvZQN015747 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:57:35 -0400 Received: (from wwong@localhost) by math.Princeton.EDU (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id k9IIvZnv015744 for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:57:35 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: math.Princeton.EDU: wwong set sender to wwong@princeton.edu using -f Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:57:35 -0400 From: Willie Wong To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: how thorough is #emerge --sync? Message-ID: <20061018185735.GA15031@math.princeton.edu> References: <20061018033704.56943.qmail@web31713.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200610172253.27152.bulliver@badcomputer.org> <15910968.RmOYfFVDSC@work.message-center.info> <200610181130.40432.bulliver@badcomputer.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200610181130.40432.bulliver@badcomputer.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Archives-Salt: e2879d06-0bd3-44ec-8875-8b2f8ed0335e X-Archives-Hash: de8b9f9e44389764bdbf5f32c4bcfc3e On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 11:30:40AM -0700, Darren Kirby wrote: > > > Well, I'm the upstream author, and _I_ think there should be different > > > (ie: newer) version offered. Good enough? > > > > No, not good enough, as that doesn't matter at all. All that matters is, > > what's in the tree. And the latest stable version is 0.8, no matter what > > you think. The question remains: Why should a different version be offered? > Sorry Alexander, I just don't get where you're going with this. Version 0.8 > was released September 27, 2004! There have been 4 major new releases since > then, which include many bug fixes, and new and improved features. 0.8 is old > and busted, 0.9.3 is the new hotness! Guys, Just to prevent the heat from escalating, may I offer my observation that the two of you seems to be arguing about completely different things? Alexander (and I, likewise) probably misunderstood Darren's question from the start: when he posted, I thought his expectation that "emerge dir2ogg" should bring in a newer version than what was offered was a lack of understanding of how the portage tree works (well, some of my friends do actually think that the package management system [aptget, rpm, portage, etc.] would actually be smart enough to automatically go on the internet and find and install the latest version of a program, so I wouldn't put any misconception past human capacity). But it seems clear to me now that Darren is actually asking about whether it is polite to give the devs a gentle nudge, asking them to remove an old, buggy version of software from the portage tree and add/stablize newer, updated versions (and how to go about doing so if it is polite). I am actually curious about the same thing: some of the packages that I use are also a year or two out of date, for the most part I can get around it by using overlays and third-party ebuilds, and I am making an effort to learn how to write ebuilds, but it would be nice to see those ebuilds committed to the official tree. W -- Willie W. Wong wwong@math.princeton.edu 408 Fine Hall, Department of Mathematics, Princeton University, Princeton A mathematician's reputation rests on the number of bad proofs he has given. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list