[gentoo-user] Please Help: Major problems with Modular X

[gentoo-user] Please Help: Major problems with Modular X

[Chris Walters]

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Hello everyone,

I realize that I just posted on this subject, but since all versions of
Xorg, except for modular X have been hard masked, I need some help or
advice - preferably from someone who has had this problem and solved it.

My configuration: Athlon 1 Ghz, 512 MB, and for video an ATI Radeon
9550SE (identified by the kernel probe as a Radeon 9600 AS.

This all works fine under monolithic Xorg (6.8.2).  However, when I have
tried to switch to modular Xorg, I can't get a screen.  I have tried
both the proprietary driver, which is supposed to support my card (the
kernel won't load it), and the radeon driver.

For setup, I have used every setup utility available, and even tried to
set up my xorg.conf file myself.  In most cases, it finds all the modes
supported by my card when I try it out, but it errors out with a couple
of errors: 1. Insufficient memory for the requested window, and 2.
Screens found, but none have a usable configuration.

For some reason, modular Xorg is not allocating enough memory for a
screen and I can't find a way to fix this.

Regards,
Chris
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Re: [gentoo-user] Please Help: Major problems with Modular X

[Piotr Gąsiorowski]

On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 09:58:56 +0200, Chris Walters <cjw2004d@comcast.net>  
wrote:

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> Hello everyone,
>
> I realize that I just posted on this subject, but since all versions of
> Xorg, except for modular X have been hard masked, I need some help or
> advice - preferably from someone who has had this problem and solved it.
>
> My configuration: Athlon 1 Ghz, 512 MB, and for video an ATI Radeon
> 9550SE (identified by the kernel probe as a Radeon 9600 AS.
>
> This all works fine under monolithic Xorg (6.8.2).  However, when I have
> tried to switch to modular Xorg, I can't get a screen.  I have tried
> both the proprietary driver, which is supposed to support my card (the
> kernel won't load it), and the radeon driver.
>
> For setup, I have used every setup utility available, and even tried to
> set up my xorg.conf file myself.  In most cases, it finds all the modes
> supported by my card when I try it out, but it errors out with a couple
> of errors: 1. Insufficient memory for the requested window, and 2.
> Screens found, but none have a usable configuration.
>
> For some reason, modular Xorg is not allocating enough memory for a
> screen and I can't find a way to fix this.
>
> Regards,
> Chris
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Did you try:
#emerge x11-drm ?

I had some similar problems, as my Gentoo didn't installed the keyboard  
and mouse drivers (check if your did) :)

Next try to install the drivers from ATi homepage. After installing try:
#aticonfig --initial (it makes the xorg.conf)

Can you attach your xorg log?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Please Help: Major problems with Modular X

[Jure Varlec]

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On Saturday 23 September 2006 09:58, Chris Walters wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> I realize that I just posted on this subject, but since all versions of
> Xorg, except for modular X have been hard masked, I need some help or
> advice - preferably from someone who has had this problem and solved it.
>
> My configuration: Athlon 1 Ghz, 512 MB, and for video an ATI Radeon
> 9550SE (identified by the kernel probe as a Radeon 9600 AS.
>
> This all works fine under monolithic Xorg (6.8.2).  However, when I have
> tried to switch to modular Xorg, I can't get a screen.  I have tried
> both the proprietary driver, which is supposed to support my card (the
> kernel won't load it), and the radeon driver.
>
> For setup, I have used every setup utility available, and even tried to
> set up my xorg.conf file myself.  In most cases, it finds all the modes
> supported by my card when I try it out, but it errors out with a couple
> of errors: 1. Insufficient memory for the requested window, and 2.
> Screens found, but none have a usable configuration.
>
> For some reason, modular Xorg is not allocating enough memory for a
> screen and I can't find a way to fix this.
>
> Regards,
> Chris


Chris,
Unless I missed your mail, as tends to happen to me on this list, you didn't 
respond to my earlier suggestion, nor did you post your /var/log/Xorg.0.log 
as Richard requested. I don't see why a new thread is necessary.

Regards,
Jure

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Re: [gentoo-user] Please Help: Major problems with Modular X

[Luigi Pinna]

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Alle 10:18, sabato 23 settembre 2006, Jure Varlec ha scritto:
[...]
> Chris,
> Unless I missed your mail, as tends to happen to me on this list, you
> didn't respond to my earlier suggestion, nor did you post your
> /var/log/Xorg.0.log as Richard requested. I don't see why a new
> thread is necessary.
>
> Regards,
> Jure

Wait a second!
I had a similar problem (black screen, no mouse or keyboard activity) 
and I had no log: I tried to remove then to see only new reports and 
when I had that problem X wrote nothing inside...
I found only a partial working solution: if you don't load dri module 
(it's enough to comment it and use your old xorg.conf) you have a 
working X server.
Unfortunately my only solution was to switch the graphic card to nvidia.
There is something wrong in radeon driver on modular X...
See you,
Luigi
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Re: [gentoo-user] Please Help: Major problems with Modular X

[Chris Walters]

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Jure Varlec wrote:
> On Saturday 23 September 2006 09:58, Chris Walters wrote:

>> I realize that I just posted on this subject, but since all versions of
>> Xorg, except for modular X have been hard masked, I need some help or
>> advice - preferably from someone who has had this problem and solved it.
>>
>> My configuration: Athlon 1 Ghz, 512 MB, and for video an ATI Radeon
>> 9550SE (identified by the kernel probe as a Radeon 9600 AS.
>>
>> This all works fine under monolithic Xorg (6.8.2).  However, when I have
>> tried to switch to modular Xorg, I can't get a screen.  I have tried
>> both the proprietary driver, which is supposed to support my card (the
>> kernel won't load it), and the radeon driver.
>>
>> For setup, I have used every setup utility available, and even tried to
>> set up my xorg.conf file myself.  In most cases, it finds all the modes
>> supported by my card when I try it out, but it errors out with a couple
>> of errors: 1. Insufficient memory for the requested window, and 2.
>> Screens found, but none have a usable configuration.
>>
>> For some reason, modular Xorg is not allocating enough memory for a
>> screen and I can't find a way to fix this.
> 
> Chris,
> Unless I missed your mail, as tends to happen to me on this list, you didn't 
> respond to my earlier suggestion, nor did you post your /var/log/Xorg.0.log 
> as Richard requested. I don't see why a new thread is necessary.
> 
> Regards,
> Jure

Jure,

I don't recall seeing any replies to my original post, so I figured it
must have gotten lost.  As for the Xorg log, I don't have one to post -
if I had, I would have posted the pertinent portions rather than
describe the problem.

Regards,
Chris
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Re: [gentoo-user] Please Help: Major problems with Modular X

[Chris Walters]

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Piotr G?siorowski wrote:
> Did you try:
> #emerge x11-drm ?

> I had some similar problems, as my Gentoo didn't installed the keyboard
> and mouse drivers (check if your did) :)

> Next try to install the drivers from ATi homepage. After installing try:
> #aticonfig --initial (it makes the xorg.conf)

> Can you attach your xorg log?

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Hi Piotr,

Yes, I did try both of those things and neither worked.  As for a log,
as I already mentioned, I don't have one - I wish I did.  I suspect that
there is a problem with Modular X and ATI (at least with Radeon), and
that if I want it to work, I'll have to use a different graphics card.

Regards,
Chris
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Re: [gentoo-user] Please Help: Major problems with Modular X

[Jure Varlec]

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On Saturday 23 September 2006 15:09, Chris Walters wrote:
> I don't recall seeing any replies to my original post, so I figured it
> must have gotten lost.  As for the Xorg log, I don't have one to post -
> if I had, I would have posted the pertinent portions rather than
> describe the problem.

I apologize then. While single messages do sometimes go missing on this list 
(they should be archived on gmane though), it's strange that both of them 
would go missing so I assumed you got at least one.

Anyway, my suggestion was to put  'VideoRam 131072' in your xorg.conf under 
Section "Device", assuming misdetection of card's memory is the only problem. 
There's not much else to try without any detailed information, i.e. logs :/ . 
How about running with 'startx -logfile filename' or, if that 
fails, 'startx -verbose 3'? In the latter case, you can log it easily 
using 'script'.

HTH
Jure

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Re: [gentoo-user] Please Help: Major problems with Modular X

[Richard Fish]

On 9/23/06, Chris Walters <cjw2004d@comcast.net> wrote:
> I don't recall seeing any replies to my original post, so I figured it
> must have gotten lost.  As for the Xorg log, I don't have one to post -
> if I had, I would have posted the pertinent portions rather than
> describe the problem.

You can see the previous thread and responses here:

http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/170748/focus=170748

Although there isn't much to see...we can't help a whole lot without
that log file.

So I would suggest to quickpkg the current xorg, try the modular X
again, so we can see what problems you are actually running into.

-Richard
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