* [gentoo-user] Whole lotta minimal
@ 2006-09-20 17:54 Grant
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From: Grant @ 2006-09-20 17:54 UTC (permalink / raw
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Can someone explain the great minimal breakout happening in portage or
point me toward a link? Is USE="minimal" in make.conf the kind of
thing you should do if you don't have a specific reason not to, or the
kind of thing you shouldn't do unless you have a specific reason to.
- Grant
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Whole lotta minimal
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@ 2006-09-20 19:16 ` Jarry
2006-09-20 21:11 ` [gentoo-user] " Harm Geerts
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From: Jarry @ 2006-09-20 19:16 UTC (permalink / raw
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Jan-Hendrik Zab wrote:
>> Can someone explain the great minimal breakout happening in portage
...
> so. The actual problem is that the flag has no 'real' global meaning,
> which means that it might turn off some 'unnecessary' features in one
> application and turn off one of the most useful in another.
Sometimes it is not correctly implemented (or its description
is not exact). For example, if you emerge mysql with minimal-flag,
you will get just mysql-client, not server.
But mysql is described as "A fast, multi-threaded, multi-user SQL
database server" in gentoo package database. And server functionality
can not be imho considered as "some unnecessary feature" for any
server-software (without that it is not server anymore, is it?)...
I do have "minimal" in my global USE flags, but it happened
to me a few times that I had problems because of it and I had
to put "-minimal" for some packages (in packages.use)...
Jarry
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* [gentoo-user] Re: Whole lotta minimal
2006-09-20 19:16 ` Jarry
@ 2006-09-20 21:11 ` Harm Geerts
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From: Harm Geerts @ 2006-09-20 21:11 UTC (permalink / raw
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On Wednesday 20 September 2006 21:16, Jarry wrote:
> Jan-Hendrik Zab wrote:
> >> Can someone explain the great minimal breakout happening in portage
>
> ...
>
> > so. The actual problem is that the flag has no 'real' global meaning,
> > which means that it might turn off some 'unnecessary' features in one
> > application and turn off one of the most useful in another.
>
> Sometimes it is not correctly implemented (or its description
> is not exact). For example, if you emerge mysql with minimal-flag,
> you will get just mysql-client, not server.
>
> But mysql is described as "A fast, multi-threaded, multi-user SQL
> database server" in gentoo package database. And server functionality
> can not be imho considered as "some unnecessary feature" for any
> server-software (without that it is not server anymore, is it?)...
>
> I do have "minimal" in my global USE flags, but it happened
> to me a few times that I had problems because of it and I had
> to put "-minimal" for some packages (in packages.use)...
minimal is not ment to be used as a global flag.
It should only be used in specific cases.
minimal minimizes size or functionality and often both.
Don't use it unless you *know* what it does and this is the desired behaviour.
leaving minimal off will never hurt your system, turning it on globally will.
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