[gentoo-user] Using a SUN workstation monitor with a GENTOO linux PC?

[gentoo-user] Using a SUN workstation monitor with a GENTOO linux PC?

[Wolfgang Liebich]

Hi,
I've setup a new gentoo system. I plan to use the monitor of a SUN
workstation (a "Sun 40x30cm RGB monitor" - I don't know more) with it.
The PC has an "Intel 945G/GZ Express Integrated Graphics Controller".
Is it possible to use a SUN monitor with this graphics cars? Which
special settings do I need?
TIA,
Wolfgang Liebich
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Re: [gentoo-user] Using a SUN workstation monitor with a GENTOO linux PC?

[Henti Smith]

On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 11:13:22 +0200
Wolfgang Liebich <Wolfgang.Liebich@siemens.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> I've setup a new gentoo system. I plan to use the monitor of a SUN
> workstation (a "Sun 40x30cm RGB monitor" - I don't know more) with it.
> The PC has an "Intel 945G/GZ Express Integrated Graphics Controller".
> Is it possible to use a SUN monitor with this graphics cars? Which
> special settings do I need?

Alot of the specialized monitors (my experiance is with SGI machines)
uses single sync monitors, which means they don't have a sync range
like most monitors for PC's, but a single sync range hardlocked to the
card in the machine the work with. 

You'll need to find out exactly which monitor it is .. find out what
sync and refresh it is hardlinked with and then get your card to output
signal in that sync and refresh otherwise you won't get it working. 

Please bear in mind, I have never worked on Sun monitors with PC's so
can't vouch for how accurate this might be ... just going from previous
experience with similar situation and what was the cause of it 

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[gentoo-user] Re: Using a SUN workstation monitor with a GENTOO linux PC?

[Francesco Talamona]

On Tuesday 19 September 2006 11:13, Wolfgang Liebich wrote:
> Hi,
> I've setup a new gentoo system. I plan to use the monitor of a SUN
> workstation (a "Sun 40x30cm RGB monitor" - I don't know more) with
> it. The PC has an "Intel 945G/GZ Express Integrated Graphics
> Controller". Is it possible to use a SUN monitor with this graphics
> cars? Which special settings do I need?
> TIA,
> Wolfgang Liebich
You may need a "13w3 to hd15" adapter.
Ciao
	Francesco
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RE: [gentoo-user] Re: Using a SUN workstation monitor with a GENTOO linux PC?

[Liebich, Wolfgang]

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Hi,


From: Francesco Talamona [mailto:ti.liame@email.it]
 
>On Tuesday 19 September 2006 11:13, Wolfgang Liebich wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I've setup a new gentoo system. I plan to use the monitor of a SUN
>> workstation (a "Sun 40x30cm RGB monitor" - I don't know more) with
>> it. The PC has an "Intel 945G/GZ Express Integrated Graphics
>> Controller". Is it possible to use a SUN monitor with this graphics
>> cars? Which special settings do I need?
>> TIA,
>> Wolfgang Liebich
>You may need a "13w3 to hd15" adapter.
>Ciao
>	Francesco
I got an adapter. What I do need to know is:
- How can I use the initial console?
- Do I need the framebuffer console?
- I have an Intel 915 integrated graphics card - what do I have to put into
xorg.cfg?
- Is there a danger that I might destroy the monitor w/ incorrect settings?
Ciao,
Wolfgang

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RE: [gentoo-user] Using a SUN workstation monitor with a GENTOO linux PC?

[Liebich, Wolfgang]

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Hi,


From: Henti Smith [mailto:henti@geekware.co.za]
 
>On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 11:13:22 +0200
>Wolfgang Liebich <Wolfgang.Liebich@siemens.com> wrote:

>> Hi,
>> I've setup a new gentoo system. I plan to use the monitor of a SUN
>> workstation (a "Sun 40x30cm RGB monitor" - I don't know more) with it.
>> The PC has an "Intel 945G/GZ Express Integrated Graphics Controller".
>> Is it possible to use a SUN monitor with this graphics cars? Which
>> special settings do I need?

>Alot of the specialized monitors (my experiance is with SGI machines)
>uses single sync monitors, which means they don't have a sync range
>like most monitors for PC's, but a single sync range hardlocked to the
>card in the machine the work with. 

>You'll need to find out exactly which monitor it is .. find out what
>sync and refresh it is hardlinked with and then get your card to output
>signal in that sync and refresh otherwise you won't get it working. 
>
>Please bear in mind, I have never worked on Sun monitors with PC's so
>can't vouch for how accurate this might be ... just going from previous
>experience with similar situation and what was the cause of it 

WELL, my experiences so far:
- With the Intel on board controller it don't work. This controller accepts no mode lines
but only the modes stored in the BIOS - and those won't work tith the GDM-5410 monitor.
- The monitor seems to support multiple frequencies, but many modes work pretty poor. With
another PC (my old one) and a trusty Matrox G200 card I managed to get one mode (1280x1024@76 Hz) working.

Open questions:
- There are tools like get-edid+parse-edid, ddcprobe etc. which query a monitor via DDC about his capabilities.
Are there ports of such tools to Solaris/Sparc? I want to use the settings on the SUN WS to get other nice mode lines,
too.
- Failing that, how can I get the "predefined" set of nice modes which work for the SUN? (for example a 1600x1000 mode I'm using right now).

Not THAT simple :-(
- Wolfgang

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