[gentoo-user] OT friendly cellphone w/ Gentoo?

[gentoo-user] OT friendly cellphone w/ Gentoo?

[James]

Hello,

I live in Florida, so we have quite a lot of cell phone companies to
choose from. I get to order a new phone and new service. Most importantly,
I'm looking for a cell phone that exchanges data with a gentoo laptop,
easily (kmobiletools) or some other kde gui based app.

Then I'd like the option for wireless internet connectivity (flat rate).

or the ability to use the ppp+cell phone for access thru my firewalled
static IP connection.

Any recommendations?

I do like the usb port on a motorola razr, but, I not sure mot-cell phones
are friendly with linux/gentoo....... One of my co-workers (windoz user)
just got a razr and it get's reception where my krufty-LG does not, both
using Alltel.

I like alltel and have an unlimited access plan in a small geographic area
(basically 4 counties in Florida) so Alltel and a ???.cellphone would be keen.
But, I can switch to a new cell phone company, if something really works 
good with Gentoo(KDE) as we are shuffling cell phones around the company
this weekend......

Verizon does have a suposedly 300+ kbps wireless net access plan in Florida,
but, I'm not sure if you can get a flat rate price on that. Paying
metered feeds for wireless access via a cell phone, is not an option
(we're a small company).

Googling does not produce anything to get excited about, so I thought I'd
seek advise (or learn which phones to avoid) from this gentoo+user list.

thoughts?


James



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Re: [gentoo-user] OT friendly cellphone w/ Gentoo?

[Hemmann, Volker Armin]

On Friday 25 August 2006 22:00, James wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I live in Florida, so we have quite a lot of cell phone companies to
> choose from. I get to order a new phone and new service. Most importantly,
> I'm looking for a cell phone that exchanges data with a gentoo laptop,
> easily (kmobiletools) or some other kde gui based app.
>
> Then I'd like the option for wireless internet connectivity (flat rate).
>
> or the ability to use the ppp+cell phone for access thru my firewalled
> static IP connection.
>
> Any recommendations?
>
> I do like the usb port on a motorola razr, but, I not sure mot-cell phones
> are friendly with linux/gentoo....... One of my co-workers (windoz user)
> just got a razr and it get's reception where my krufty-LG does not, both
> using Alltel.

well, I got my new razr today - and I am not too happy. Compared with my old 
Sony Ericson, bluetooth is crippled and everything seems to be a lot more 
complicated. While it is easy to put files onto the phone or fetch them with 
kdebluetooth with the SE, it seems not to be even possible with the razr.
:(

also, the razr does not support EDGE, so its networking is kinda slow compared 
to phones with it.
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[gentoo-user] Re: OT friendly cellphone w/ Gentoo?

[James]

Hemmann, Volker Armin <volker.armin.hemmann <at> tu-clausthal.de> writes:



> well, I got my new razr today - and I am not too happy. Compared with my old 
> Sony Ericson, bluetooth is crippled and everything seems to be a lot more 
> complicated. While it is easy to put files onto the phone or fetch them with 
> kdebluetooth with the SE, it seems not to be even possible with the razr.

> also, the razr does not support EDGE, so its networking is kinda slow compared 
> to phones with it.


I'm pretty sure Alltel uses cdma, still. I suspected the razr was not linux
friendly, when googling produced very little in the way of positive information.
T-mobile is here in Florida, but their network quality really suffers from
drops according to everyone I have conversed with concerning T-mobile in Florida.

Any ideas which other  cell phone vendors here in Florida, have GPRS/EDGE or
any other standard that actually works well with a cell phone conected to a
linux(gentoo) laptop?

Very few happy postings when you google for linux + razr and other
keywords.....




James



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Re: [gentoo-user] OT friendly cellphone w/ Gentoo?

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 22:30:37 +0200, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:

> > I do like the usb port on a motorola razr, but, I not sure mot-cell
> > phones are friendly with linux/gentoo....... One of my co-workers
> > (windoz user) just got a razr and it get's reception where my
> > krufty-LG does not, both using Alltel.  

I bought a Razr last year, it works with the CVS (or is it SVN?) version
of kmobiletools, but not so well with the release in portage. I notice
there's now a 0.5 beta in portage, masked. I'll give that a try this
weekend, it should work as it's later than the CVS version I have.

> well, I got my new razr today - and I am not too happy. Compared with
> my old Sony Ericson, bluetooth is crippled and everything seems to be a
> lot more complicated. While it is easy to put files onto the phone or
> fetch them with kdebluetooth with the SE, it seems not to be even
> possible with the razr.

KDEbluetooth finds the Razr without any problems, just select "Find
device" in the Razr's menu and click the bluetooth icon in the panel.


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Re: [gentoo-user] OT friendly cellphone w/ Gentoo?

[Hemmann, Volker Armin]

On Saturday 26 August 2006 00:19, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 22:30:37 +0200, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
> > > I do like the usb port on a motorola razr, but, I not sure mot-cell
> > > phones are friendly with linux/gentoo....... One of my co-workers
> > > (windoz user) just got a razr and it get's reception where my
> > > krufty-LG does not, both using Alltel.
>
> I bought a Razr last year, it works with the CVS (or is it SVN?) version
> of kmobiletools, but not so well with the release in portage. I notice
> there's now a 0.5 beta in portage, masked. I'll give that a try this
> weekend, it should work as it's later than the CVS version I have.
>
> > well, I got my new razr today - and I am not too happy. Compared with
> > my old Sony Ericson, bluetooth is crippled and everything seems to be a
> > lot more complicated. While it is easy to put files onto the phone or
> > fetch them with kdebluetooth with the SE, it seems not to be even
> > possible with the razr.
>
> KDEbluetooth finds the Razr without any problems, just select "Find
> device" in the Razr's menu and click the bluetooth icon in the panel.

yeah, it finds it. But it does not 'find' any services, like obex file 
transfer and others.
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT friendly cellphone w/ Gentoo?

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 02:30:44 +0200, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:

> > KDEbluetooth finds the Razr without any problems, just select "Find
> > device" in the Razr's menu and click the bluetooth icon in the
> > panel.  
> 
> yeah, it finds it. But it does not 'find' any services, like obex file 
> transfer and others.

It does here, I've used it to transfer pictures, video and audio.


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Re: [gentoo-user] OT friendly cellphone w/ Gentoo?

[Hemmann, Volker Armin]

On Saturday 26 August 2006 10:10, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 02:30:44 +0200, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
> > > KDEbluetooth finds the Razr without any problems, just select "Find
> > > device" in the Razr's menu and click the bluetooth icon in the
> > > panel.
> >
> > yeah, it finds it. But it does not 'find' any services, like obex file
> > transfer and others.
>
> It does here, I've used it to transfer pictures, video and audio.

very strange.

I used the usb-cable to transfer the stuff, after the phone refused all 
services via bluetooth. And I did basically the same stuff I did with my SE 
(btw, kmobiletool worked, in a way. I can read the sms and contacts, but I am 
unable to send or store one.)

Hm, do you mind send a step-by-step? maybe I overlooked something.
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT friendly cellphone w/ Gentoo?

[Roy Wright]

Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
> well, I got my new razr today - and I am not too happy. Compared with my old 
> Sony Ericson, bluetooth is crippled and everything seems to be a lot more 
> complicated. While it is easy to put files onto the phone or fetch them with 
> kdebluetooth with the SE, it seems not to be even possible with the razr.
> :(
>
> also, the razr does not support EDGE, so its networking is kinda slow compared 
> to phones with it.
>   
With my RAZR, I can sync phonebooks via bluetooth or usb, but this is
crippled in only name+number
is synced - i.e., no additional attributes such as home/work/mobile is
sync'ed.

I am able to download photos/movies from the phone with either bluetooth
or usb.

I can upload files with usb but there is something weird with it.  For
example if I upload a mp3 file,
then tell the phone to use it as a ring tone, it doesn't.

I can upload files fine with bluetooth, including mp3 to ringtone.

I couldn't make heads or tails of the Konnector stuff.

Overall I'd score the RAZR about 5 on a 10 point scale.  I'd score the
linux support about 5 too,
the parts are there, the setup is difficult, the UI elements are clunky.


HTH,
Roy

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