[gentoo-user] xorg server and monitor power management

[gentoo-user] xorg server and monitor power management

[Dale]

Hi,

I upgraded to the modular xorg a while back and have noticed this little
problem.  I have this in my xorg.conf file to cut off the monitor when I
am at the login screen.

>     Option    "dpms"
>     Option    "standby time"    "5"
>     Option    "suspend time"    "10"
>     Option    "off time"    "10"

However this is what xorg.0.log says about it.

> (**) NVIDIA(0): DPMS enabled
> (II) Loading extension NV-CONTROL
> (WW) NVIDIA(0): Option "standby time" is not used
> (WW) NVIDIA(0): Option "suspend time" is not used
> (WW) NVIDIA(0): Option "off time" is not used

This is what xset says about it:

> DPMS (Energy Star):
>   Standby: 2400    Suspend: 2400    Off: 2400
>   DPMS is Enabled
>   Monitor is On

I have this in rc.conf so I use kdm for my login thingy.

> # What display manager do you use ?  [ xdm | gdm | kdm | entrance ]
> DISPLAYMANAGER="kdm"

I logged out and did a cntrl alt bcksp to make sure it reloaded the new
config but it still ignores my setting.  I use KDE and have different
setting for power management in it.  I want it to stay on longer when I
am logged in but not when I am logged out.

Can someone tell me the new way or point me somewhere??  This is weird. 
I searched the forums and found people complaining that theirs cut off
and they wanted it to stay on and I am having just the opposite
problem.  I can't get mine to turn off right.

Thanks

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg server and monitor power management

[Thomas Kear]

from xorg.conf(5x):

SERVERFLAGS SECTION
[...]
Option "BlankTime"  "time"
sets the inactivity timeout for the blanking phase of the screensaver.
 time is in minutes.  This is equivalent to the Xorg server's  `-s'
flag,  and  the value can be changed at run-time with xset(1x).
Default: 10 minutes.

Option "StandbyTime"  "time"
sets the inactivity timeout for the "standby" phase of DPMS mode.
time is in minutes, and the value can be changed at run-time with
xset(1x).  Default: 20 minutes.  This is only suitable for VESA DPMS
compatible monitors, and may not be supported by all video drivers.
It is only enabled for screens that have the "DPMS" option set (see
the MONITOR section below).

Option "SuspendTime"  "time"
sets the inactivity timeout for the "suspend" phase of DPMS mode.
time is in minutes, and the value can be changed at run-time with
xset(1x).  Default: 30 minutes.  This is only suitable for VESA DPMS
compatible monitors, and may not be supported by all video drivers.
It is only enabled for screens that have the "DPMS" option set (see
the MONITOR section below).

Option "OffTime"  "time"
sets  the  inactivity  timeout  for the "off" phase of DPMS mode.
time is in minutes, and the value can be changed at run-time with
xset(1x).  Default: 40 minutes.  This is only suitable for VESA DPMS
compatible monitors, and may not be supported by all video drivers.
It is only enabled for screens that have the "DPMS" option set (see
the MONITOR section below).


The problem is the space in the option names.  My xorg.conf has this,
works fine:
>        Option          "BlankTime"             "0"
>        Option          "StandbyTime"           "0"
>        Option          "SuspendTime"           "0"
>        Option          "OffTime"               "10"


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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg server and monitor power management

[Dale]

Thomas Kear wrote:
>
>
> The problem is the space in the option names.  My xorg.conf has this,
> works fine:
>>        Option          "BlankTime"             "0"
>>        Option          "StandbyTime"           "0"
>>        Option          "SuspendTime"           "0"
>>        Option          "OffTime"               "10"
>
>

I got mine from xorg.conf.example.  It had this in it:

> # Set the DPMS timeouts.  These are set here because they are global
> # rather than screen-specific.  These settings alone don't enable DPMS.
> # It is enabled per-screen (or per-monitor), and even then only when
> # the driver supports it.
>
>     Option"standby time"    "20"
>     Option"suspend time"    "30"
>     Option"off time"    "60"


No spaces there.  I just copied and pasted it then changed the time
part.  I had this until it stopped working:

> #    Option    "standby time"    "5"
> #    Option    "suspend time"    "5"
> #    Option    "off time"    "5"

It worked fine until the modular xorg update.  I'll try yours with
different times though, just in case.

Thanks

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg server and monitor power management

[Uwe Thiem]

On 14 August 2006 10:24, Dale wrote:

> I got mine from xorg.conf.example.  It had this in it:
> > # Set the DPMS timeouts.  These are set here because they are global
> > # rather than screen-specific.  These settings alone don't enable DPMS.
> > # It is enabled per-screen (or per-monitor), and even then only when
> > # the driver supports it.
> >
> >     Option"standby time"    "20"
> >     Option"suspend time"    "30"
> >     Option"off time"    "60"
>
> No spaces there.  I just copied and pasted it then changed the time

I beg your pardon? The spaces are right there.

Uwe

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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg server and monitor power management

[Dale]

Uwe Thiem wrote:
> On 14 August 2006 10:24, Dale wrote:
>
>   
>> I got mine from xorg.conf.example.  It had this in it:
>>     
>>> # Set the DPMS timeouts.  These are set here because they are global
>>> # rather than screen-specific.  These settings alone don't enable DPMS.
>>> # It is enabled per-screen (or per-monitor), and even then only when
>>> # the driver supports it.
>>>
>>>     Option"standby time"    "20"
>>>     Option"suspend time"    "30"
>>>     Option"off time"    "60"
>>>       
>> No spaces there.  I just copied and pasted it then changed the time
>>     
>
> I beg your pardon? The spaces are right there.
>
> Uwe
>
>   

I thought you were talking about between the Option and standby, suspend
or off time.  Either way, it is not working.  I set it to turn off after
a couple minutes and 30 minutes later it is still on.  I even tried the
xset command and nothing changed.  Also keep in mind, all this worked
fine until I upgraded xorg.  I assumed something changed with the
options but I can not find what the new way is.  It's not in the man
file you posted or in my xorg.conf.example file either.

This is the xorg stuff I have installed if it helps any:

> root@smoker / # equery list xorg
> [ Searching for package 'xorg' in all categories among: ]
>  * installed packages
> [I--] [  ] app-doc/xorg-docs-1.2 (0)
> [I--] [  ] x11-base/xorg-server-1.0.2-r7 (0)
> [I--] [  ] x11-base/xorg-x11-7.0-r1 (0)
> [I--] [  ] x11-misc/xorg-cf-files-1.0.2 (0)
> root@smoker / # 
Any ideas??

Dale
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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg server and monitor power management

[Richard Fish]

On 8/14/06, Dale <teendale@vista-express.com> wrote:
> Any ideas??

Are those options in the correct section ("ServerFlags")?  Do you have
'Option "DPMS"' in your Monitor section?  Maybe you should just post
your whole xorg.conf...

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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg server and monitor power management

[Dale]

Richard Fish wrote:
> On 8/14/06, Dale <teendale@vista-express.com> wrote:
>> Any ideas??
>
> Are those options in the correct section ("ServerFlags")?  Do you have
> 'Option "DPMS"' in your Monitor section?  Maybe you should just post
> your whole xorg.conf...
>
> -Richard

Oh, that may be it.  They may not be in the right place.  It was working
before though.  It just stopped when I upgraded.  I'll check that in a bit.

Dale
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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg server and monitor power management

[Dale]

Dale wrote:
> Richard Fish wrote:
>   
>>
>> Are those options in the correct section ("ServerFlags")?  Do you have
>> 'Option "DPMS"' in your Monitor section?  Maybe you should just post
>> your whole xorg.conf...
>>
>> -Richard
>>     
>
> Oh, that may be it.  They may not be in the right place.  It was working
> before though.  It just stopped when I upgraded.  I'll check that in a bit.
>
> Dale
> :-)  :-)
>   

That seemed to work.  Here is my current xorg.conf file:

> Section "ServerLayout"
>     Identifier     "X.org Configured"
>     Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
>     InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
>     InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
>
>     Option     "BlankTime"          "2"
>     Option    "standby time"    "5"
>     Option    "suspend time"    "5"
>     Option    "off time"    "5"
>
> EndSection
>
> Section "Files"
>     FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/misc"
>     FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi"
>     FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi"
>     FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/TTF"
>     FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/Type1"
> EndSection
>
> Section "Module"
>     Load  "glx"
>     Load  "extmod"
>     Load  "xtrap"
>     Load  "record"
>     Load  "dbe"
>     Load  "dri"
>     Load  "freetype"
>     Load  "type1"
> EndSection
>
> #Section "dri"
> #       Group "graphics"
> #       Mode 0660
> #EndSection
>
> Section "InputDevice"
>     Identifier  "Keyboard0"
>     Driver      "kbd"
> EndSection
>
> Section "InputDevice"
>     Identifier  "Mouse0"
>     Driver      "mouse"
>     Option        "Protocol" "auto"
>     Option        "Device" "/dev/input/mouse0"
>     Option        "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
> EndSection
>
> Section "Monitor"
>     Identifier   "Monitor0"
>     VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
>     ModelName    "Monitor Model"
>
> #    Option    "standby time"    "5"
> #    Option    "suspend time"    "5"
> #    Option    "off time"    "5"
>
>     Option    "dpms"    
>
>
> EndSection
>
> Section "Device"
>     Identifier  "Card0"
>     Driver      "nvidia"
>     VendorName  "nVidia Corporation"
>     BoardName   "NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]"
>     BusID       "PCI:2:0:0"
> EndSection
>
> Section "Screen"
>     Identifier "Screen0"
>     Device     "Card0"
>     Monitor    "Monitor0"
>     SubSection "Display"
>         Modes       "1280x1024" "1024x768"
>         Viewport   0 0
>         Depth     1
>     EndSubSection
> <snip out useless Screen stuff>
> EndSection
>

Can someone confirm this is text only and not html??

Thanks for the help.  It was confusing because it worked before. 

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg server and monitor power management

[Peter Ruskin]

On Thursday 17 August 2006 18:53, Dale wrote:
> That seemed to work.  Here is my current xorg.conf file:
> > Section "ServerLayout"
> >     Identifier     "X.org Configured"
> >     Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
> >     InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
> >     InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
> >
> >     Option     "BlankTime"          "2"
> >     Option    "standby time"    "5"
> >     Option    "suspend time"    "5"
> >     Option    "off time"    "5"
> >
> > EndSection

Wrong!... do man xorg.conf and you'll see that BlankTime, 
StandbyTime, SuspendTime and OffTime belong in 
Section "ServerFlags", not "ServerLayout".

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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg server and monitor power management

[Dale]

Peter Ruskin wrote:
> On Thursday 17 August 2006 18:53, Dale wrote:
>   
>> That seemed to work.  Here is my current xorg.conf file:
>>     
>>> Section "ServerLayout"
>>>     Identifier     "X.org Configured"
>>>     Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
>>>     InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
>>>     InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
>>>
>>>     Option     "BlankTime"          "2"
>>>     Option    "standby time"    "5"
>>>     Option    "suspend time"    "5"
>>>     Option    "off time"    "5"
>>>
>>> EndSection
>>>       
>
> Wrong!... do man xorg.conf and you'll see that BlankTime, 
> StandbyTime, SuspendTime and OffTime belong in 
> Section "ServerFlags", not "ServerLayout".
>
>   

I didn't have one so I copied it from the example file.  For some reason
my man xorg.conf will not come up.  No error, doesn't say it is not
there, just gives me a blank look.  I dunno.

This better??

> Section "ServerLayout"
>     Identifier     "X.org Configured"
>     Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
>     InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
>     InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
>
>
> EndSection
>
>
> # **********************************************************************
> # Server flags section.  This contains various server-wide Options.
> # **********************************************************************
>
> Section "ServerFlags"
>
>     Option     "BlankTime"          "2"
>     Option    "standby time"    "5"
>     Option    "suspend time"    "5"
>     Option    "off time"    "5"
>
>
> Section "Files"
>     FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/misc"
>     FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi"
>     FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi"
>     FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/TTF"
>     FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/Type1"
> EndSection
>
> Section "Module"
>     Load  "glx"
>     Load  "extmod"
>     Load  "xtrap"
>     Load  "record"
>     Load  "dbe"
>     Load  "dri"
>     Load  "freetype"
>     Load  "type1"
> EndSection
>
> #Section "dri"  <This was tried during the upgrade.  >
> #       Group "graphics"
> #       Mode 0660
> #EndSection
>
> Section "InputDevice"
>     Identifier  "Keyboard0"
>     Driver      "kbd"
> EndSection
>
> Section "InputDevice"
>     Identifier  "Mouse0"
>     Driver      "mouse"
>     Option        "Protocol" "auto"
>     Option        "Device" "/dev/input/mouse0"
>     Option        "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
> EndSection
>
> Section "Monitor"
>     Identifier   "Monitor0"
>     VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
>     ModelName    "Monitor Model"
>
>     Option    "dpms"    
>
>
> EndSection
>
> Section "Device"
>     Identifier  "Card0"
>     Driver      "nvidia"
>     VendorName  "nVidia Corporation"
>     BoardName   "NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]"
>     BusID       "PCI:2:0:0"
> EndSection
>
> Section "Screen"
>     Identifier "Screen0"
>     Device     "Card0"
>     Monitor    "Monitor0"
>     SubSection "Display"
>         Modes       "1280x1024" "1024x768"
>         Viewport   0 0
>         Depth     1
>     EndSubSection
> <snip out Screen stuff again>
> EndSection
>

It did work though.  Weird huh??

Thanks.  I'll have a perfect xorg.conf files before long.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg server and monitor power management

[Peter Ruskin]

On Thursday 17 August 2006 21:45, Dale wrote:
> I didn't have one so I copied it from the example file.  For some
> reason my man xorg.conf will not come up.  No error, doesn't say
> it is not there, just gives me a blank look.  I dunno.

$ qpkg -f /usr/share/man/man5/xorg.conf.5x.gz
x11-base/xorg-server *

So if you want it, do 'USE="doc" emerge xorg-server'
>
> This better??
>
> > Section "ServerLayout"
> >     Identifier     "X.org Configured"
> >     Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
> >     InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
> >     InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
> >
> >
> > EndSection
> >
> >
> > #
> > ***************************************************************
> >******* # Server flags section.  This contains various
> > server-wide Options. #
> > ***************************************************************
> >*******
> >
> > Section "ServerFlags"
> >
> >     Option     "BlankTime"          "2"
> >     Option    "standby time"    "5"
> >     Option    "suspend time"    "5"
> >     Option    "off time"    "5"

Right place, wrong spelling: you want StandbyTime, SuspendTime and 
OffTime (according to that man page).

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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg server and monitor power management

[Iain Buchanan]

On Thu, 2006-08-17 at 15:45 -0500, Dale wrote:
> Peter Ruskin wrote:
> > On Thursday 17 August 2006 18:53, Dale wrote:
> > 
> > Wrong!... do man xorg.conf and you'll see that BlankTime, 
> > StandbyTime, SuspendTime and OffTime belong in 
> > Section "ServerFlags", not "ServerLayout".
> >
> >   
> 
> I didn't have one so I copied it from the example file.  For some reason
> my man xorg.conf will not come up.  No error, doesn't say it is not
> there, just gives me a blank look.  I dunno.
> 
> This better??
> 
> > Section "ServerLayout"
> >     Identifier     "X.org Configured"
> >     Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
> >     InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
> >     InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
> >
> >
> > EndSection
> >
> >
> > # **********************************************************************
> > # Server flags section.  This contains various server-wide Options.
> > # **********************************************************************
> >
> > Section "ServerFlags"
> >
> >     Option     "BlankTime"          "2"
> >     Option    "standby time"    "5"
> >     Option    "suspend time"    "5"
> >     Option    "off time"    "5"
> >
> >
> > Section "Files"
[snip]

don't forget the EndSection (for ServerFlags) before you open Section
"Files".

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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg server and monitor power management

[Dale]

Iain Buchanan wrote:
> On Thu, 2006-08-17 at 15:45 -0500, Dale wrote:
>   
>>
>> I didn't have one so I copied it from the example file.  For some reason
>> my man xorg.conf will not come up.  No error, doesn't say it is not
>> there, just gives me a blank look.  I dunno.
>>
>> This better??
>>
>>     
>>> Section "ServerLayout"
>>>     Identifier     "X.org Configured"
>>>     Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
>>>     InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
>>>     InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
>>>
>>>
>>> EndSection
>>>
>>>
>>> # **********************************************************************
>>> # Server flags section.  This contains various server-wide Options.
>>> # **********************************************************************
>>>
>>> Section "ServerFlags"
>>>
>>>     Option     "BlankTime"          "2"
>>>     Option    "standby time"    "5"
>>>     Option    "suspend time"    "5"
>>>     Option    "off time"    "5"
>>>
>>>
>>> Section "Files"
>>>       
> [snip]
>
> don't forget the EndSection (for ServerFlags) before you open Section
> "Files".
>
> cya,
>   

I did, forget that is.  Guess what, later on it crashed and would not
restart.   After a puzzled look and checking the log file, I figured
that out.  Sure had me wondering for a bit though.

Sort of funny now though.  LOL  Here is the current file:

> Section "ServerLayout"
>     Identifier     "X.org Configured"
>     Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
>     InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
>     InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
>
>
> EndSection
>
>
> # **********************************************************************
> # Server flags section.  This contains various server-wide Options.
> # **********************************************************************
>
> Section "ServerFlags"
>
>     Option    "BlankTime"      "2"
>     Option    "StandbyTime"    "5"
>     Option    "SuspendTime"    "5"
>     Option    "OffTime"    "5"
> EndSection
>
> Section "Files"
>     FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/misc"
>     FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi"
>     FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi"
>     FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/TTF"
>     FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/Type1"
> EndSection
>
> Section "Module"
>     Load  "glx"
>     Load  "extmod"
>     Load  "xtrap"
>     Load  "record"
>     Load  "dbe"
>     Load  "dri"
>     Load  "freetype"
>     Load  "type1"
> EndSection
>
> #Section "dri"
> #       Group "graphics"
> #       Mode 0660
> #EndSection
>
> Section "InputDevice"
>     Identifier  "Keyboard0"
>     Driver      "kbd"
> EndSection
>
> Section "InputDevice"
>     Identifier  "Mouse0"
>     Driver      "mouse"
>     Option        "Protocol" "auto"
>     Option        "Device" "/dev/input/mouse0"
>     Option        "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
> EndSection
>
> Section "Monitor"
>     Identifier   "Monitor0"
>     VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
>     ModelName    "Monitor Model"
>
>     Option    "dpms"    
>
>
> EndSection
>
> Section "Device"
>     Identifier  "Card0"
>     Driver      "nvidia"
>     VendorName  "nVidia Corporation"
>     BoardName   "NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]"
>     BusID       "PCI:2:0:0"
> EndSection
>
> Section "Screen"
>     Identifier "Screen0"
>     Device     "Card0"
>     Monitor    "Monitor0"
>     SubSection "Display"
>         Modes       "1280x1024" "1024x768"
>         Viewport   0 0
>         Depth     1
>     EndSubSection
>     SubSection "Display"
>         Modes       "1280x1024" "1024x768"
>         Viewport   0 0
>         Depth     4
>     EndSubSection
>     SubSection "Display"
>         Modes       "1280x1024" "1024x768"
>         Viewport   0 0
>         Depth     8
>     EndSubSection
>     SubSection "Display"
>         Modes       "1280x1024" "1024x768"
>         Viewport   0 0
>         Depth     15
>     EndSubSection
>     SubSection "Display"
>         Modes       "1280x1024" "1024x768"
>         Viewport   0 0
>         Depth     16
>     EndSubSection
>     SubSection "Display"
>         Modes       "1280x1024" "1024x768"
>         Viewport   0 0
>         Depth     24
>     EndSubSection
> EndSection
>
Works better now. 

Dale

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