[gentoo-user] Video Card of Death! (Yes its on topic.)

[gentoo-user] Video Card of Death! (Yes its on topic.)

[Ian Kabeary]

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Hi there,
My laptop has a Radeon 9100. Toshiba advertised a 9000 so at the time I was
happy. Then I realized that the proprietary ATi drivers dont give this card
3d acceleration, which it is totally capable of. Anyway, I tried the wiki
instructions on getting this card to work but they are quite cryptic the way
they have written them. It kind of branches off into three different ways of
doing it, but you never know what reading to skip and what to do.

I got reasonably far. What I did was take the support for the direct
rendering manager out of the kernel, while including the Radeon driver and
other associated things. For the purposes of this support request, I do not
believe they are completely relevant. After doing what I think it was that I
should do, I started X. (I have 7.1.1 by the way). What I end up with is
that it cant find the drivers because the version of the radeon driver
version doesn't match the server version or something? I have no idea what
that means.

Projects use waaaay different versioning systems. Seriously, I have no clue
what its going on about! :) Is this a cryptic way of saying the driver wants
Xorg < 7.0?
Thanks so much everyone!
~Ian

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Re: [gentoo-user] Video Card of Death! (Yes its on topic.)

[Mike]

Ian Kabeary wrote:

> Then I realized that the proprietary ATi drivers dont give
> this card 3d acceleration, which it is totally capable of.

Sad state of affairs for gamers. I guess Linux just isn't catching on like they
thought it would.

	sincerely,
		  mr
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Re: [gentoo-user] Video Card of Death! (Yes its on topic.)

[Neil Isaac]

On 8/15/06, Ian Kabeary <omega21@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi there,
> My laptop has a Radeon 9100. Toshiba advertised a 9000 so at the time I was
> happy. Then I realized that the proprietary ATi drivers dont give this card
> 3d acceleration, which it is totally capable of. Anyway, I tried the wiki
> instructions on getting this card to work but they are quite cryptic the way
> they have written them. It kind of branches off into three different ways of
> doing it, but you never know what reading to skip and what to do.
>
> I got reasonably far. What I did was take the support for the direct
> rendering manager out of the kernel, while including the Radeon driver and
> other associated things. For the purposes of this support request, I do not
> believe they are completely relevant. After doing what I think it was that I
> should do, I started X. (I have 7.1.1 by the way). What I end up with is
> that it cant find the drivers because the version of the radeon driver
> version doesn't match the server version or something? I have no idea what
> that means.
>
> Projects use waaaay different versioning systems. Seriously, I have no clue
> what its going on about! :) Is this a cryptic way of saying the driver wants
> Xorg < 7.0?

Xorg 7.0 should be fine. Nvidia and ati have not released drivers that
work with 7.1 yet. In my experience, ati drivers are hell to get
working (I never did get them working in the end - but I do have
friends who have gotten them up and running) so I wish you luck.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Video Card of Death! (Yes its on topic.)

[Ian Kabeary]

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It makes me very happy that the open source ones (once they work.....) fully
support my card.
~Ian


On 8/15/06, Mike <whodie@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Ian Kabeary wrote:
>
> > Then I realized that the proprietary ATi drivers dont give
> > this card 3d acceleration, which it is totally capable of.
>
> Sad state of affairs for gamers. I guess Linux just isn't catching on like
> they
> thought it would.
>
>        sincerely,
>                  mr
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>
>

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Re: [gentoo-user] Video Card of Death! (Yes its on topic.)

[Julien Cabillot]

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I have Xorg7.1 & ati-drivers, that's work fine.

On 8/15/06, Neil Isaac <isaac.neil@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 8/15/06, Ian Kabeary <omega21@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi there,
> > My laptop has a Radeon 9100. Toshiba advertised a 9000 so at the time I
> was
> > happy. Then I realized that the proprietary ATi drivers dont give this
> card
> > 3d acceleration, which it is totally capable of. Anyway, I tried the
> wiki
> > instructions on getting this card to work but they are quite cryptic the
> way
> > they have written them. It kind of branches off into three different
> ways of
> > doing it, but you never know what reading to skip and what to do.
> >
> > I got reasonably far. What I did was take the support for the direct
> > rendering manager out of the kernel, while including the Radeon driver
> and
> > other associated things. For the purposes of this support request, I do
> not
> > believe they are completely relevant. After doing what I think it was
> that I
> > should do, I started X. (I have 7.1.1 by the way). What I end up with is
> > that it cant find the drivers because the version of the radeon driver
> > version doesn't match the server version or something? I have no idea
> what
> > that means.
> >
> > Projects use waaaay different versioning systems. Seriously, I have no
> clue
> > what its going on about! :) Is this a cryptic way of saying the driver
> wants
> > Xorg < 7.0?
>
> Xorg 7.0 should be fine. Nvidia and ati have not released drivers that
> work with 7.1 yet. In my experience, ati drivers are hell to get
> working (I never did get them working in the end - but I do have
> friends who have gotten them up and running) so I wish you luck.
>
> --
> Neil Isaac
> isaac.neil@gmail.com
> --
> gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
>
>


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Re: [gentoo-user] Video Card of Death! (Yes its on topic.)

[Ian Kabeary]

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I dont want the ATi ones though, they dont give my card 3d acceleration.
~Ian

PS> Sadly enough, I found out they dont do 3D accel. AFTER I installed them.
:)


On 8/15/06, Julien Cabillot <jcabillot@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I have Xorg7.1 & ati-drivers, that's work fine.
>
>
> On 8/15/06, Neil Isaac <isaac.neil@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On 8/15/06, Ian Kabeary <omega21@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi there,
> > > My laptop has a Radeon 9100. Toshiba advertised a 9000 so at the time
> > I was
> > > happy. Then I realized that the proprietary ATi drivers dont give this
> > card
> > > 3d acceleration, which it is totally capable of. Anyway, I tried the
> > wiki
> > > instructions on getting this card to work but they are quite cryptic
> > the way
> > > they have written them. It kind of branches off into three different
> > ways of
> > > doing it, but you never know what reading to skip and what to do.
> > >
> > > I got reasonably far. What I did was take the support for the direct
> > > rendering manager out of the kernel, while including the Radeon driver
> > and
> > > other associated things. For the purposes of this support request, I
> > do not
> > > believe they are completely relevant. After doing what I think it was
> > that I
> > > should do, I started X. (I have 7.1.1 by the way). What I end up with
> > is
> > > that it cant find the drivers because the version of the radeon driver
> >
> > > version doesn't match the server version or something? I have no idea
> > what
> > > that means.
> > >
> > > Projects use waaaay different versioning systems. Seriously, I have no
> > clue
> > > what its going on about! :) Is this a cryptic way of saying the driver
> > wants
> > > Xorg < 7.0?
> >
> > Xorg 7.0 should be fine. Nvidia and ati have not released drivers that
> > work with 7.1 yet. In my experience, ati drivers are hell to get
> > working (I never did get them working in the end - but I do have
> > friends who have gotten them up and running) so I wish you luck.
> >
> > --
> > Neil Isaac
> > isaac.neil@gmail.com
> > --
> > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
> >
> >
>
>
> --
>
> Julien Cabillot
>



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~Ian

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Re: [gentoo-user] Video Card of Death! (Yes its on topic.)

[Richard Fish]

On 8/15/06, Ian Kabeary <omega21@gmail.com> wrote:
> should do, I started X. (I have 7.1.1 by the way). What I end up with is
> that it cant find the drivers because the version of the radeon driver
> version doesn't match the server version or something? I have no idea what
> that means

<sarcasm>
Well, maybe you could like try a different version, or something?
</sarcasm>

I really suggest when asking for help that you provide the actual
error message you are getting.   Otherwise we have to guess at both
the error *and* the solution, rather than the normal thing we do,
which to just guess at the solution.  For X errors, it also never
hurts to provide your xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log files.

-Richard
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Re: [gentoo-user] Video Card of Death! (Yes its on topic.)

[Ian Kabeary]

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I can for sure get the error message for you in a few hours.
Im away from home (and my laptop for that matter) right now.
Thanks for the reply though!
~Ian


On 8/15/06, Richard Fish <bigfish@asmallpond.org> wrote:
>
> On 8/15/06, Ian Kabeary <omega21@gmail.com> wrote:
> > should do, I started X. (I have 7.1.1 by the way). What I end up with is
> > that it cant find the drivers because the version of the radeon driver
> > version doesn't match the server version or something? I have no idea
> what
> > that means
>
> <sarcasm>
> Well, maybe you could like try a different version, or something?
> </sarcasm>
>
> I really suggest when asking for help that you provide the actual
> error message you are getting.   Otherwise we have to guess at both
> the error *and* the solution, rather than the normal thing we do,
> which to just guess at the solution.  For X errors, it also never
> hurts to provide your xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log files.
>
> -Richard
> --
> gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
>
>


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Re: [gentoo-user] Video Card of Death! (Yes its on topic.)

[Jerry McBride]

On Tuesday 15 August 2006 18:29, Ian Kabeary wrote:
> I can for sure get the error message for you in a few hours.
> Im away from home (and my laptop for that matter) right now.
> Thanks for the reply though!
> ~Ian
>
> On 8/15/06, Richard Fish <bigfish@asmallpond.org> wrote:
> > On 8/15/06, Ian Kabeary <omega21@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > should do, I started X. (I have 7.1.1 by the way). What I end up with
> > > is that it cant find the drivers because the version of the radeon
> > > driver version doesn't match the server version or something? I have no
> > > idea
> >
> > what
> >
> > > that means
> >
> > <sarcasm>
> > Well, maybe you could like try a different version, or something?
> > </sarcasm>
> >
> > I really suggest when asking for help that you provide the actual
> > error message you are getting.   Otherwise we have to guess at both
> > the error *and* the solution, rather than the normal thing we do,
> > which to just guess at the solution.  For X errors, it also never
> > hurts to provide your xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log files.
> >
> > -Richard
> > --
> > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

What problems are you having again? My current work laptop is a Compaq 
Presario R3000 with ATI 9000igp video chips. 3D acceleration works perfectly 
on it, using Xor 7.1.1 and it's native dri drivers.


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