From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1GCx9C-0006lS-Qu for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 11:31:51 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with SMTP id k7FBTfWq022141; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 11:29:41 GMT Received: from poseidon.rz.tu-clausthal.de (poseidon.rz.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.2.21]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k7FBRaib025081 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 11:27:36 GMT Received: from poseidon.rz.tu-clausthal.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id D3F352004A1 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 13:27:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from tu-clausthal.de (poseidon [139.174.2.21]) by poseidon.rz.tu-clausthal.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE0F2200497 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 13:27:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from energy.heim10.tu-clausthal.de ([139.174.241.94] verified) by tu-clausthal.de (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1c.2) with ESMTP id 15875892 for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 13:27:35 +0200 From: "Hemmann, Volker Armin" To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] PORTAGE message Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 13:27:34 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 References: <9acccfe50607221843g412b1f10u4d285ffea34eae40@mail.gmail.com> <200608140601.59029.volker.armin.hemmann@tu-clausthal.de> <9acccfe50608142254j3a2d5b5dscf4bd3c069d05cd0@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9acccfe50608142254j3a2d5b5dscf4bd3c069d05cd0@mail.gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200608151327.35062.volker.armin.hemmann@tu-clausthal.de> X-Virus-Scanned: by PureMessage V4.7 at tu-clausthal.de X-Archives-Salt: 13c608b0-4cbd-4098-bd22-0dee401cae93 X-Archives-Hash: 6fcb63aa03c2777a8c62fbf8a8385301 On Tuesday 15 August 2006 07:54, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: > On 8/13/06, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: > > On Monday 14 August 2006 04:39, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: > > > This was not the first time. It wasn't the last either -- I'm looking > > > at a new fresh crop. Am I then to understand that none of these > > > messages will ever be warning ME that I need to do something (actually, > > > I know that's not true). > > > > > > If not, how am I to tell? What clues are you guys going on? Is it > > > just beyond some threshold of geekishness/incomprehensibility that > > > marks it as for devs only? > > > > the threashold is, that this is a warning about a function used in > > ebuilds to use a certain eclass, which is even more ebuild stuff. And > > correcting ebuilds is dev stuff. > > > > No need for geekiness threshold - if it is about ebuilds and eclasses, it > > is for devs. Heck, every problem/warning about an ebuild is for devs. > > > > > > If there is a message for the user, it is usually very easy to recognize. > > Stuff like: 'after updating package FOO to version X.Y.Z-r3 you need to > > rebuilt package BAR' is obviously for you, the user. > > I'm not reassured. I don't think messages among devs should share a > channel with messages to users without some explicit tagging. The stuff > you say is for devs looks worrisome to me because I don't really understand > it. I'd like something more clear. if there is really a problem the ebuild aborts. Is that clear enough? Most of the 'for dev' messages, have a QA in front of it. This ones can be ignored by you safely. Everything that might be interessting for you is in the ebuild, in the 'einfo' block. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list