[gentoo-user] gtk+ dependency problem

[gentoo-user] gtk+ dependency problem

[Enrico Weigelt]

Hi folks,


I'm just installing some X applications on an headless machine
and I'd like to have only the xlib client libs, no server stuff.

The problem is: the non-deterministic dependencies to the X libs
get resolved badly - it always wants to install the Xserver.

How can stop it from doing that (without manually tweaking
the portage tree) ?


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Re: [gentoo-user] gtk+ dependency problem

[Donnie Berkholz]

Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> Hi folks,
> 
> 
> I'm just installing some X applications on an headless machine
> and I'd like to have only the xlib client libs, no server stuff.
> 
> The problem is: the non-deterministic dependencies to the X libs
> get resolved badly - it always wants to install the Xserver.

Lack of determinism has nothing to do with it, gtk+ hard-depends on an X 
server to build. I think this is fixed in 2.10, but the ebuild does not 
reflect it -- it still inherits the virtualx eclass.

Just set USE="minimal -xorg -kdrive -dmx" for xorg-server and you'll be 
doing the best you can.

Thanks,
Donnie
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AW: [gentoo-user] gtk+ dependency problem

[Noack, Sebastian]

Hi,

`emerge --nodeps` let you install packages without its dependencies, but at least the other dependencies unless xorg-server are required for compiling xlib. So you would have to run `emerge --nodeps <all the dependencies which are really required> libX11`

Regards
Sebastian Noack


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> Von: Enrico Weigelt [mailto:weigelt@metux.de]
> Gesendet: Montag, 7. August 2006 09:57
> An: gentoo-user
> Betreff: [gentoo-user] gtk+ dependency problem
> 
> 
> Hi folks,
> 
> 
> I'm just installing some X applications on an headless machine
> and I'd like to have only the xlib client libs, no server stuff.
> 
> The problem is: the non-deterministic dependencies to the X libs
> get resolved badly - it always wants to install the Xserver.
> 
> How can stop it from doing that (without manually tweaking
> the portage tree) ?
> 
> 
> cu
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Re: [gentoo-user] gtk+ dependency problem

[Enrico Weigelt]

* Donnie Berkholz <dberkholz@gentoo.org> wrote:

Hi,

> Lack of determinism has nothing to do with it, gtk+ hard-depends 
> on an X server to build. 

eh ? 
I've built it without any server stuff about an year ago. 
(vanilla, not gentoo).

<snip>

> I think this is fixed in 2.10, but the ebuild does not 
> reflect it -- it still inherits the virtualx eclass.

In other words, the ebuilt is still broken ?

> Just set USE="minimal -xorg -kdrive -dmx" for xorg-server and 
> you'll be doing the best you can.

I don't want to have an Xserver at all, so it doesn't anyting.


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Re: [gentoo-user] gtk+ dependency problem

[Enrico Weigelt]

* Noack, Sebastian <S.Noack@AUTOonline.de> wrote:

Hi,

> `emerge --nodeps` let you install packages without its dependencies, 

would require me to handle dependencies manually. very bad hack.

I'll better fix it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] gtk+ dependency problem

[Donnie Berkholz]

Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> I don't want to have an Xserver at all, so it doesn't anyting.

It requires Xvfb to build and install correctly, at least up until 2.10. 
If you want more info, search bugzilla or ask the gnome team -- I'm sure 
someone else has filed a bug about this at some point.

Thanks,
Donnie
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Re: [gentoo-user] gtk+ dependency problem

[Enrico Weigelt]

* Donnie Berkholz <dberkholz@gentoo.org> wrote:
> Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> >I don't want to have an Xserver at all, so it doesn't anyting.
> 
> It requires Xvfb to build and install correctly, at least up until 2.10. 

Eh ? I've always built vanilla gtk w/o any server stuff.

> If you want more info, search bugzilla or ask the gnome team -- 
> I'm sure someone else has filed a bug about this at some point.

Couldn't find anything. Perhaps you've got some pointer ?


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Re: [gentoo-user] gtk+ dependency problem

[Donnie Berkholz]

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Enrico Weigelt wrote:
>> If you want more info, search bugzilla or ask the gnome team -- 
>> I'm sure someone else has filed a bug about this at some point.
> 
> Couldn't find anything. Perhaps you've got some pointer ?

No, I don't, or I would have given it to you. Instead, I told you where
to look and what to do next if you cannot find anything there.

Thanks,
Donnie


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Re: [gentoo-user] gtk+ dependency problem

[Richard Fish]

On 8/7/06, Enrico Weigelt <weigelt@metux.de> wrote:
> How can stop it from doing that (without manually tweaking
> the portage tree) ?

package.provided?

-Richard
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Re: [gentoo-user] gtk+ dependency problem

[Enrico Weigelt]

* Donnie Berkholz <dberkholz@gentoo.org> wrote:
> Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> >> If you want more info, search bugzilla or ask the gnome team -- 
> >> I'm sure someone else has filed a bug about this at some point.
> > 
> > Couldn't find anything. Perhaps you've got some pointer ?
> 
> No, I don't, or I would have given it to you. Instead, I told you where
> to look and what to do next if you cannot find anything there.

I tried look in bugzilla, but could find anything usefu,
I'll have a try via google, hoping bugs.gentoo.org is indexed.


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