From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1G6926-0006RU-IP for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 16:48:22 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with SMTP id k6RGjFoB010391; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 16:45:15 GMT Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k6RGgd4E000583 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 16:42:39 GMT Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id m19so205928nfc for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 09:42:39 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=eDqk2PyHdubD7EQ06HpPyoBuxebrnnxNlo4gFJvaGDUy6g5HxfdgOXmWtwI9qhL3FwIwvWe343FZmUH2qi0Fk4eQT81fvKHC751EpwjR9wQ29KpzBrZGbo5dhMSLEv0xvOEzw+kHN0+wHG/zNsWj+HW9lJN6rcenOMfaS8kbuss= Received: by 10.48.242.9 with SMTP id p9mr189546nfh; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 09:42:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ( [59.92.88.136]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id a24sm3551794nfc.2006.07.27.09.42.36; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 09:42:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 22:12:31 +0530 From: Farhan Ahmed To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Lots of missing gentoo-user mail Message-ID: <20060727164231.GA15915@ubercomputer.mainframe.org> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <44C851B3.3040602@gmail.com> <8146fc8a0607270736i6d998e4ei2c729c3c707c2773@mail.gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8146fc8a0607270736i6d998e4ei2c729c3c707c2773@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: mutt-ng/devel-r804 (Linux) X-Archives-Salt: eae2e7ae-9ff3-4c19-bb24-49ba54fb598a X-Archives-Hash: e283ec737e8a2a441acdfd02cbc8ca23 --xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andrew Frink wrote: > On 7/27/06, Ralph Slooten wrote: > > > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >Hash: SHA1 > > > >Hiya, > > > >For the last 2 years I have been archiving structurally all my > >gentoo-user mails I have received into MySQL. In the last few months I > >have noticed that I have been receiving more and more broken threads > >(In-Reply-To and References), indicating missing mails from those thread= s. > > > >At present I use gmail to receive the mail which is then downloaded via > >fetchmail to my imap server. Recently I added the > >gmane.linux.gentoo.user newsgroup to my thunderbird to make some > >comparisons between that I am receiving and what they are receiving. To > >my surprise I am missing between 1 and 4 messages per thread (of more > >than let's say 10 messages). > > > >It is not a threading problem, and not a pop3 problem ~ I can confirm > >that what I have in gmail is what I have locally. > > > >To give some examples of totals in some larger threads over the last > >couple of days: > > > >Subject Local gmane > >"Kde menu" 11 12 > >"MythTV vs. Gentoo VDR" 9 10 > >"PORTAGE_ELOG error" 24 28 > >"strange [ file" 27 31 > >"can't install ati-drivers" 13 16 > >"How packages becomes stable?" 8 9 > >"Unable to mount root fs on uknown - block (0,0)" 14 17 > > > >I have confirmed that that I have locally is exactly what I have in > >gmail, so the problem is not local, and they are not caught anywhere in > >gmail's spam filters. > > > >What I am trying to work out if if it's just me having an issue with > >gmail (which I will confront the gmail team there about), or if the > >gentoo-user mailing server is skipping addresses or having issues > >sending. Tracing mail logs over a few days to check threads can be a > >painfully annoying job ;-) > > > >I am subscribed to other lists too which I seem to be having absolutely > >no problems with, although they are somewhat less active than the > >gentoo-user one. > > > >Are any of you (gmail or not) having the same problem? What is the > >correct way to go about locating and confronting this issue? > > > >Thanks for any advise. > >Ralph > > > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > >Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) > > > >iD8DBQFEyFGzCt0ZF9kLPvYRAjlMAJ9INepH8Zz4ceFCf+jXKmFDu7onkQCcC5n4 > >TuT8NnAi1cZWRU+6PIdibFk=3D > >=3Ds5g+ > >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > >-- > >gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > > >hello, > i hear that it's a "problem" with gmail, it would seem that if you sent t= he > mail to a thread it doesn't show up in your inbox.. as it already has a c= opy > and isn't "new" mail This seems not the problem in this case as I'm using GMail and am receiving all the mail's to the mailing list. The "feature" of GMail whereby the mail sent by the person is treated as duplicate when received through list is not guilty of this "problem", as Ralf has not sent any replies to the above mentioned thread's (did not had the time to check every thread, but checked two). This seems like a problem which is affecting some subscribers and not all. This is odd. Hope this gets resolved soon. Farhan Ahmed --=20 Place : Bangalore, Karnataka, India GPG Key : 8BE90E98 WengoPhone ID : farhanahmed IRC Nick : farhanahmed / farhanahmed06 (irc.freenode.net) --xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFEyOz3ZVKSzIvpDpgRAtreAJ9I5D2TxZ+FRgtpuMfkD4EFcERbIQCfVSHJ GrI7k9GVoAUG+W7/7sFpPD0= =V3JO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V-- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list