From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1G0Niu-00050o-5o for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 11 Jul 2006 19:16:44 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with SMTP id k6BJDutu000505; Tue, 11 Jul 2006 19:13:56 GMT Received: from frappe.xs4all.nl (frappe.xs4all.nl [213.84.219.245]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k6BJ7IIn015913 for ; Tue, 11 Jul 2006 19:07:18 GMT Received: from bull.thuis (bull.thuis [192.168.1.1]) by frappe.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AA4037393D for ; Tue, 11 Jul 2006 21:07:22 +0200 (CEST) From: Gerhard Hoogterp To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Things that can be improved Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 21:07:42 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <44AEB475.8000702@maestroprogramador.com> <20060711110506.GC6816@waltdnes.org> <342e1090607110935w6afc6525x1461a585824bc273@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <342e1090607110935w6afc6525x1461a585824bc273@mail.gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200607112107.42587@frappe.xs4all.nl> X-Archives-Salt: 3365d5e6-fcea-4725-b8bd-16dff50c7c3a X-Archives-Hash: 047de7685362113c87c78093321a7f8e > > I think there's a mis-understanding here. Gerhard and I are > > complaining about config files being possibly *OVERWRITTEN* with default > > settings. If there's no config file, sure write the default config > > file. But if someone has customized a config file, assume that they > > know what they're doing, and leave settings alone. > > That only happens if YOU do it. No config file is EVER changed without > your permission by portage, if it does not exist, a default is copied, > but if there's already one, no. Sure and if Ihad lots of time I would do an emerge world every day just to check a few files. Regretfully, with 5 servers, some 28 websites and some other work too I don't have that daily time. So when I update my system I have to go through pages full of diffs, checking every diff to see if, besides all the settings returning to default, there are also changes that I should be aware off. A wrong key is easily pressed and there you go.. And why? Yes I changed my settings and yes etc-update or dispatch-conf show me carefully every moved point or comma. Thanks, but I know I changed those and I did that on purpose. Untouched files are already on auto-pilot. Show me what is added or removed. And since it can only do that by comparing the new file to a clean, untouched, original file I innocently suggested to have such a file, make changes there and leave it up to the admin to check if settings are added or removed and deal with these changes in the active config file.. And in that case don't bother showing the diff.. just tell me which files have changed and *offer* to show the changes. But don't touch my active configes.. not automatically, not ever.. Guess I'm just paranoid.. but then again, sometimes a healty amount of paranoia keeps you out of a lot of troubles.. Gerhard -- Ithaka photography, http://ithaka.mine.nu/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list