OK, at line 490 (of about 10 million right now) I got this error: Warning: Cannot convert string "-b&h-lucida-medium-r-normal-sans-*-140-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1" to type FontStruct followed by about 10 million of these lines: Warning: Name: textfield Class: XmTextField Character '\61' not supported in font. Discarded. Before I restart KDE, does anybody know what this is all about? Thanks, festus -- It is not unusual for those at the wrong end of the club to have a clearer picture of reality than those who wield it. Noam Chomsky