[gentoo-user] 2006 livecd (x86)

[gentoo-user] 2006 livecd (x86)

[James]

Hello

I just booted one up and I cannot su to root.
It wants a passwd and I tried the usual suspects...
The default user (gentoo) can issue (sudo) root commands?
Certainly the  gentoo user does not have the paths set such as
 root's  paths would be set. I definately need the default root
passwd to set the ip address  (ifconfig) for a temporary test.

Fome the handbook "Once the boot process completes, you will be automatically
logged in to the "Live" Gentoo Linux as "root", the super user. You should have
a root ("#")" But that's not the case for me . There was an intial
log screen, but entering root there it still prompts me for the root passwd...

Is the default passwd the same for amd64 livecd?


lspci is present, but 'lshw' is not. Is there a way to get lshw on a
usb memory device, so I can use to test out a new portable(no net connection)?
Is there a way to include lshw on the installation CD?

Any other suggestions for using a 2006 livecd for testing (potential) equipment?


James




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Re: [gentoo-user] 2006 livecd (x86)

[David Dalrymple]

You can do

sudo passwd

and set the root password, if you have sudo.  I don't think you should
need to do that but it works.

--David

On 6/30/06, James <wireless@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> Hello
>
> I just booted one up and I cannot su to root.
> It wants a passwd and I tried the usual suspects...
> The default user (gentoo) can issue (sudo) root commands?
> Certainly the  gentoo user does not have the paths set such as
>  root's  paths would be set. I definately need the default root
> passwd to set the ip address  (ifconfig) for a temporary test.
>
> Fome the handbook "Once the boot process completes, you will be automatically
> logged in to the "Live" Gentoo Linux as "root", the super user. You should have
> a root ("#")" But that's not the case for me . There was an intial
> log screen, but entering root there it still prompts me for the root passwd...
>
> Is the default passwd the same for amd64 livecd?
>
>
> lspci is present, but 'lshw' is not. Is there a way to get lshw on a
> usb memory device, so I can use to test out a new portable(no net connection)?
> Is there a way to include lshw on the installation CD?
>
> Any other suggestions for using a 2006 livecd for testing (potential) equipment?
>
>
> James
>
>
>
>
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Re: [gentoo-user] 2006 livecd (x86)

[Daniel da Veiga]

On 6/30/06, James <wireless@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> Hello
>
> I just booted one up and I cannot su to root.
> It wants a passwd and I tried the usual suspects...
> The default user (gentoo) can issue (sudo) root commands?
> Certainly the  gentoo user does not have the paths set such as
>  root's  paths would be set. I definately need the default root
> passwd to set the ip address  (ifconfig) for a temporary test.

Have you tried "sudo su"? Or CTRL+F[1-6] and "passwd" because the
consoles are logged in automatically...

>
> Fome the handbook "Once the boot process completes, you will be automatically
> logged in to the "Live" Gentoo Linux as "root", the super user. You should have
> a root ("#")" But that's not the case for me . There was an intial
> log screen, but entering root there it still prompts me for the root passwd...

Are you using the 2006.0 and following the old guide? Because what you
refer is for manual install, you don't get the X system in this type
of install...

>
> Is the default passwd the same for amd64 livecd?

The password is scrambled for security reasons, you can change it...

>
> lspci is present, but 'lshw' is not. Is there a way to get lshw on a
> usb memory device, so I can use to test out a new portable(no net connection)?
> Is there a way to include lshw on the installation CD?
>
> Any other suggestions for using a 2006 livecd for testing (potential) equipment?
>

Get a LiveCD that is designed for testing... The Gentoo one is for
Gentoo install.
I've used specially made Knoppix CDs for testing/fixing. There are
instructions on how to make your own Gentoo LiveCD at gentoo.org (you
can add whatever you want this way).

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[gentoo-user] Re: 2006 livecd (x86)

[James]

David Dalrymple <davidad <at> mit.edu> writes:


> sudo passwd

works like a charm! I'm not sure why this little bit of info
is missing from the handbook.

thx,

James




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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 2006 livecd (x86)

[Bo Ørsted Andresen]

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On Friday 30 June 2006 23:42, James wrote:
> > sudo passwd
>
> works like a charm! I'm not sure why this little bit of info
> is missing from the handbook.

Daniel already answered that question. The manual install book assumes that 
you use the installcd rather than the livecd. That doesn't mean you should 
but it explains why it isn't in there. You may try to file a bug to have this 
added if you wish.

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[gentoo-user] Re: 2006 livecd (x86)

[James]

Daniel da Veiga <danieldaveiga <at> gmail.com> writes:


> > I just booted one up and I cannot su to root.
> > It wants a passwd and I tried the usual suspects...
> > The default user (gentoo) can issue (sudo) root commands?
> > Certainly the  gentoo user does not have the paths set such as
> > root's  paths would be set. I definately need the default root
> > passwd to set the ip address  (ifconfig) for a temporary test.

> Have you tried "sudo su"? Or CTRL+F[1-6] and "passwd" because the
> consoles are logged in automatically...

Yes it sudo su works fine.


> Are you using the 2006.0 and following the old guide? Because 
what you
> refer is for manual install, you don't get the X system in 
this type
> of install...
 
I'm not trying to install a system, I'm using it for testing 
potential portables before purchase one. I'm following the  
guide directly  off of www.gentoo.com "Updated May 28, 2006".


> > Is the default passwd the same for amd64 livecd?

> The password is scrambled for security reasons, you can change it...

Hm, OK since I do (yet) have an amd64 system to test it on, I'm 
assuming
the same 'sudo su' trick will work on a livecd for amd64? It's my
first choice, as I go out and test portables.

> > lspci is present, but 'lshw' is not. Is there a way to get 
lshw on 
> > usb memory device, so I can use to test out a new portable
(no net connection)?
> > Is there a way to include lshw on the installation CD?
> > Any other suggestions for using a 2006 livecd for testing 
(potential) equipment?

> Get a LiveCD that is designed for testing... The Gentoo one is for
> Gentoo install.
> I've used specially made Knoppix CDs for testing/fixing. There are
> instructions on how to make your own Gentoo LiveCD at gentoo.org 
(you
> can add whatever you want this way).


Got a url to the iso immage?   And a little documentation?
Note, the livecd is very easy (dirt simple) to test with. Just 
boot it
up and go root. Knoppix is something I do not have any experience
with, nor can I imagine it is easier to use than Gentoo livecd, 
which only missing lshw, which would be extremely useful for
hardware  discovery for both testing and installation; 
ymmv.

Of coarse if your testing cds have the ability to setup lm_sensors
so one can test the low_level busses on portables, that would be
a keen advantage.....

Send me urls to the knoppix cds for testing of x86 and amd64
and I'll give those a whirl tonight while shopping.....

tia,

James










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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 2006 livecd (x86)

[Daniel da Veiga]

On 6/30/06, James <wireless@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> Daniel da Veiga <danieldaveiga <at> gmail.com> writes:
>
>
> > > I just booted one up and I cannot su to root.
> > > It wants a passwd and I tried the usual suspects...
> > > The default user (gentoo) can issue (sudo) root commands?
> > > Certainly the  gentoo user does not have the paths set such as
> > > root's  paths would be set. I definately need the default root
> > > passwd to set the ip address  (ifconfig) for a temporary test.
>
> > Have you tried "sudo su"? Or CTRL+F[1-6] and "passwd" because the
> > consoles are logged in automatically...
>
> Yes it sudo su works fine.
>
>
> > Are you using the 2006.0 and following the old guide? Because
> what you
> > refer is for manual install, you don't get the X system in
> this type
> > of install...
>
> I'm not trying to install a system, I'm using it for testing
> potential portables before purchase one. I'm following the
> guide directly  off of www.gentoo.com "Updated May 28, 2006".
>
>
> > > Is the default passwd the same for amd64 livecd?
>
> > The password is scrambled for security reasons, you can change it...
>
> Hm, OK since I do (yet) have an amd64 system to test it on, I'm
> assuming
> the same 'sudo su' trick will work on a livecd for amd64? It's my
> first choice, as I go out and test portables.
>
> > > lspci is present, but 'lshw' is not. Is there a way to get
> lshw on
> > > usb memory device, so I can use to test out a new portable
> (no net connection)?
> > > Is there a way to include lshw on the installation CD?
> > > Any other suggestions for using a 2006 livecd for testing
> (potential) equipment?
>
> > Get a LiveCD that is designed for testing... The Gentoo one is for
> > Gentoo install.
> > I've used specially made Knoppix CDs for testing/fixing. There are
> > instructions on how to make your own Gentoo LiveCD at gentoo.org
> (you
> > can add whatever you want this way).
>
>
> Got a url to the iso immage?   And a little documentation?
> Note, the livecd is very easy (dirt simple) to test with. Just
> boot it
> up and go root. Knoppix is something I do not have any experience
> with, nor can I imagine it is easier to use than Gentoo livecd,
> which only missing lshw, which would be extremely useful for
> hardware  discovery for both testing and installation;
> ymmv.
>
> Of coarse if your testing cds have the ability to setup lm_sensors
> so one can test the low_level busses on portables, that would be
> a keen advantage.....
>
> Send me urls to the knoppix cds for testing of x86 and amd64
> and I'll give those a whirl tonight while shopping.....
>
> tia,
>

Googling: gentoo build livecd

Results:

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=57754
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_build_a_LiveCD_from_scratch
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_build_a_LiveCD

(this should keep you busy for tonight ;)

I don't send knoppix links because you can find them at their site,
neither others cause you seem familiar with gentoo, so a livecd based
on gentoo would be better for you. With those links, you can build a
gentoo livecd with every tool you like (to the limit of CD-ROM space,
or pendrive space, anyway).

I'm pretty sure a better look at Wiki and the foruns would get you
TONS of info besides what I got.

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[gentoo-user] Re: 2006 livecd (x86)

[James]

Daniel da Veiga <danieldaveiga <at> gmail.com> writes:


> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=57754
> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_build_a_LiveCD_from_scratch
> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_build_a_LiveCD

> (this should keep you busy for tonight ;)

Thanks for the links!

I'll give them a whirl and have some fun testing
new portable.

thanks to all,


James




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