[gentoo-user] Introduction - new list user

[gentoo-user] Introduction - new list user

[Alan McKinnon]

Hi,

I thought I'd introduce myself as someone new to the list - good 
netiquette and all.

I've been a very happy very contented gentoo user for over a year, and 
if I had more bandwidth my life would be complete :-)

My question is, what are the local rules around here for how to behave 
on list? I'm very much old school, and prefer lists over forums - in 
my world top posting, no snipping, HTML mail and hi-jacking threads 
are a huge no-no, pretty much strict RFC1855 compliance :-)

alan


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Re: [gentoo-user] Introduction - new list user

[Richard Fish]

On 6/12/06, Alan McKinnon <alan@linuxholdings.co.za> wrote:
> My question is, what are the local rules around here for how to behave
> on list? I'm very much old school, and prefer lists over forums - in
> my world top posting, no snipping, HTML mail and hi-jacking threads
> are a huge no-no, pretty much strict RFC1855 compliance :-)

You'll do just fine here!

About the only other thing I've seen people get upset about is large
messages/attachments.  Some poor souls have to pay by the byte for
bandwidth....so be a bit careful if you ever need to post a log file
or output of a long emerge.

Welcome to the list,

-Richard
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Re: [gentoo-user] Introduction - new list user

[Alan McKinnon]

On Monday 12 June 2006 10:50, Richard Fish wrote:


> You'll do just fine here!
>
> About the only other thing I've seen people get upset about is
> large messages/attachments.  Some poor souls have to pay by the
> byte for bandwidth....so be a bit careful if you ever need to post
> a log file or output of a long emerge.
>
> Welcome to the list,

Cool, thanks. Hope it'll be a long stay :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Introduction - new list user

[Uwe Thiem]

On 12 June 2006 08:58, Alan McKinnon wrote:

> My question is, what are the local rules around here for how to behave
> on list? I'm very much old school, and prefer lists over forums - in
> my world top posting, no snipping, HTML mail and hi-jacking threads
> are a huge no-no, pretty much strict RFC1855 compliance :-)

That pretty much covers it.

> alan at linuxholdings dot co dot za

Hey, another gentoo user from Southern Africa. ;-)

Uwe

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Re: [gentoo-user] Introduction - new list user

[Alan McKinnon]

On Monday 12 June 2006 10:53, Uwe Thiem wrote:
>
> That pretty much covers it.
>
> > alan at linuxholdings dot co dot za
>
> Hey, another gentoo user from Southern Africa. ;-)
>
> Uwe

There's more of us than you mighty think, the secret underground 
gentoo conspiracy to take over and dominate the entire world is alive 
and well down here.

How's the bandwidth like in and out of Namibia?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Introduction - new list user

[Justin R Findlay]

On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 09:58:54AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> My question is, what are the local rules around here for how to behave 
> on list? I'm very much old school, and prefer lists over forums - in 
> my world top posting, no snipping, HTML mail and hi-jacking threads 
> are a huge no-no, pretty much strict RFC1855 compliance :-)

I don't think there are any 'rules' local to this gentoo-user list.
While it is important to maintain good email behavior on any mailing
list it's also important to be accepting/forgiving of newbies who aren't
blessed from the begining with all the knowledge of 'netiqutte' that we
are.  "Be broad in what you accept and discriminating in what you send."
(I don't remember the exact quote.)  Threads that degenerate into
flamewars over trivial things like top posting are usually pretty
amusing^H^H^Hboring anyway.


Justin
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Re: [gentoo-user] Introduction - new list user

[Alan McKinnon]

On Monday 12 June 2006 19:00, Justin R Findlay wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 09:58:54AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > My question is, what are the local rules around here for how to
> > behave on list? I'm very much old school, and prefer lists over
> > forums - in my world top posting, no snipping, HTML mail and
> > hi-jacking threads are a huge no-no, pretty much strict RFC1855
> > compliance :-)
>
> I don't think there are any 'rules' local to this gentoo-user list.
> While it is important to maintain good email behavior on any
> mailing list it's also important to be accepting/forgiving of
> newbies who aren't blessed from the begining with all the knowledge
> of 'netiqutte' that we are.  "Be broad in what you accept and
> discriminating in what you send." (I don't remember the exact
> quote.)  Threads that degenerate into flamewars over trivial things
> like top posting are usually pretty amusing^H^H^Hboring anyway.

That's pretty good advice. Top-post flamewars are good fun if you are 
the one doing the flaming and very boring otherwise :-)

p.s. please excuse the several dupes from me that ended up on this 
very thread this morning. smtp.saix.net serves almost the whole 
country and it went down this morning - a main cable was severed. 
Until that was fixed the machine was doing strange things with it's 
mail queues.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Introduction - new list user

[Daniel Iliev]

Well, I'm a newbie in this form (mailing lists) of sharing information. Actually its
my second subscription.
So there's a newbie question from me about some of the terms used in this thread.
I'm not joking, I really don't know. Additionally I'd say English isn't my mother
tongue, so I really don't understand what these terms mean. I don't want to abuse
the list in any way, even because of ignorance. So, please, let someone explain me

What is
- top posting
- (no) snipping
- to hi-jack a thread



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Re: [gentoo-user] Introduction - new list user

[Bo Ørsted Andresen]

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On Saturday 17 June 2006 23:29, Daniel Iliev wrote:
> What is
> - top posting

We read from top to bottom and generally it makes more sense to read a 
question before the reply. Therefore it seems logical that any reply should 
be placed right below whatever question it is replying to. Top posting is 
when you put the reply above the questions and should be avoided.

> - (no) snipping

Snipping is to cut away anything that you do not reply to. One should include 
only as many quotations as is necessary to make the context clear.

> - to hi-jack a thread

To hijack a thread is when you reply to another post and change the subject 
when what you wanted to do was to create a new thread. Then the new post will 
appear to be a reply to the original thread when in fact it is not and if 
noone else replies to the original thread it certainly does serve to make the 
original poster feel overlooked. What you should do is just create a new 
message when you want to create a new thread.

If you want to know more about netiquette you might want to have a look at 
[1]. Note that there are more useful links at the bottom of the page. [2] 
seems pretty good and brief too. I'm sure there are a lot of others. Google 
for it. :)

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netiquette
[2] http://www.penmachine.com/techie/emailtrouble_2003-07.html

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Re: [gentoo-user] Introduction - new list user

[Daniel Iliev]

Thank you very much for the detailed reply. ;-)

Now I'm loading the links you recommended.

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