[gentoo-user] kde-meta minus toys, games, etc

[gentoo-user] kde-meta minus toys, games, etc

[Mick]

Hi All,

Apologies if this has been asked before.  I uninstalled my monolithic
KDE and am ready to install the split KDE ebuilds.  I want to install
everything except toys, games and educational packages.  Since the
DO_NOT_COMPILE is not meant to be used anymore, how would you suggest
I go about it?
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Re: [gentoo-user] kde-meta minus toys, games, etc

[Mike Owen]

On 6/2/06, Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Apologies if this has been asked before.  I uninstalled my monolithic
> KDE and am ready to install the split KDE ebuilds.  I want to install
> everything except toys, games and educational packages.  Since the
> DO_NOT_COMPILE is not meant to be used anymore, how would you suggest
> I go about it?
> --
> Regards,
> Mick

Install kdebase-meta, kdeutils-meta, kdeadmin-meta, etc.
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Re: [gentoo-user] kde-meta minus toys, games, etc

[Peter Kelly]

On Friday 02 June 2006 14:55, Mike Owen wrote:
> On 6/2/06, Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Apologies if this has been asked before.  I uninstalled my monolithic
> > KDE and am ready to install the split KDE ebuilds.  I want to install
> > everything except toys, games and educational packages.  Since the
> > DO_NOT_COMPILE is not meant to be used anymore, how would you suggest
> > I go about it?
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Mick
>
> Install kdebase-meta, kdeutils-meta, kdeadmin-meta, etc.

Forgive my own ignorance, but what is the advantage to doing this over 
kdebase, kdeutils, kdeadmin, etc?

I've got plenty of disk space, so I never bothered moving away from the 
monolithic builds.  emerge kde worked better for me than emerge kde-meta, 
which brought in all the same binaries.  I know it's much faster to update a 
particular package as opposed to kdepim (or kdenetwork, or kdemultimedia), 
but that's not really an issue for me.  

I really don't want to start a war, but I don't understand why the OP didn't 
just 
# emerge -C kdetoys kdegames kdeedu 

(with any required version numbers) and be done with it.  Not having removed 
kde packages, I'm not sure that would work.  But something along those lines 
should have solved his problem.  

Peter

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Re: [gentoo-user] kde-meta minus toys, games, etc

[Mick]

On 02/06/06, Peter Kelly <linuxpete@houston.rr.com> wrote:

> > Install kdebase-meta, kdeutils-meta, kdeadmin-meta, etc.
>
> Forgive my own ignorance, but what is the advantage to doing this over
> kdebase, kdeutils, kdeadmin, etc?
>
> I've got plenty of disk space, so I never bothered moving away from the
> monolithic builds.  emerge kde worked better for me than emerge kde-meta,
> which brought in all the same binaries.  I know it's much faster to update a
> particular package as opposed to kdepim (or kdenetwork, or kdemultimedia),
> but that's not really an issue for me.
>
> I really don't want to start a war, but I don't understand why the OP didn't
> just
> # emerge -C kdetoys kdegames kdeedu
>
> (with any required version numbers) and be done with it.  Not having removed
> kde packages, I'm not sure that would work.  But something along those lines
> should have solved his problem.

Yes it would (more or less).  If I remember right, last time I tried
unmerging kdetoys it would return everytime I did an emerge -u.  That
was a couple of years ago, before /etc/portage/* appeared.  Now, I
thought that sooner or later monolithic KDE will be deprecated and so
I decided to eventually bite the bullet and move onto the split
ebuilds on this occasion.
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Re: [gentoo-user] kde-meta minus toys, games, etc

[Raymond Lewis Rebbeck]

emerge kdebase-meta to get a minimal kde. Then you can emerge whatever other 
kde programs you want afterwards, eg. kmail, kopete, kpdf, etc. They're all 
separate ebuilds now.

On Saturday, 3 June 2006 5:16, Mick wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Apologies if this has been asked before.  I uninstalled my monolithic
> KDE and am ready to install the split KDE ebuilds.  I want to install
> everything except toys, games and educational packages.  Since the
> DO_NOT_COMPILE is not meant to be used anymore, how would you suggest
> I go about it?
> --
> Regards,
> Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] kde-meta minus toys, games, etc

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Fri, 2 Jun 2006 19:46:07 +0000, Mick wrote:

> Apologies if this has been asked before.  I uninstalled my monolithic
> KDE and am ready to install the split KDE ebuilds.  I want to install
> everything except toys, games and educational packages.

Install kdebase-meta, kdenetwork-meta, kdepim-meta etc. kde-meta is for
those that want to install everything.


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Re: [gentoo-user] kde-meta minus toys, games, etc

[Mick]

On 02/06/06, Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote:
> On Fri, 2 Jun 2006 19:46:07 +0000, Mick wrote:
>
> > Apologies if this has been asked before.  I uninstalled my monolithic
> > KDE and am ready to install the split KDE ebuilds.  I want to install
> > everything except toys, games and educational packages.
>
> Install kdebase-meta, kdenetwork-meta, kdepim-meta etc. kde-meta is for
> those that want to install everything.

Thanks for all the replies.  What's the best way to find out what
-meta packages exist and what they contain?
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Re: [gentoo-user] kde-meta minus toys, games, etc

[Raymond Lewis Rebbeck]

They're the same as the monolithic packages but with -meta on the end.

Easiest way to see what is in them: # emerge -pv foo-meta

On Saturday, 3 June 2006 5:51, Mick wrote:
> On 02/06/06, Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote:
> > On Fri, 2 Jun 2006 19:46:07 +0000, Mick wrote:
> > > Apologies if this has been asked before.  I uninstalled my monolithic
> > > KDE and am ready to install the split KDE ebuilds.  I want to install
> > > everything except toys, games and educational packages.
> >
> > Install kdebase-meta, kdenetwork-meta, kdepim-meta etc. kde-meta is for
> > those that want to install everything.
>
> Thanks for all the replies.  What's the best way to find out what
> -meta packages exist and what they contain?
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> Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] kde-meta minus toys, games, etc

[Mick]

On 02/06/06, Raymond Lewis Rebbeck <dystopianray@gmail.com> wrote:
> They're the same as the monolithic packages but with -meta on the end.
>
> Easiest way to see what is in them: # emerge -pv foo-meta

Thanks.
Where's the complete list of available meta packages?
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Re: [gentoo-user] kde-meta minus toys, games, etc

[Raymond Lewis Rebbeck]

$ ls /usr/portage/kde-base/ | grep meta
kdeaccessibility-meta
kdeaddons-meta
kdeadmin-meta
kdeartwork-meta
kdebase-meta
kdebindings-meta
kdeedu-meta
kdegames-meta
kdegraphics-meta
kde-meta
kdemultimedia-meta
kdenetwork-meta
kdepim-meta
kdesdk-meta
kdetoys-meta
kdeutils-meta
kdewebdev-meta

On Saturday, 3 June 2006 6:13, Mick wrote:
> On 02/06/06, Raymond Lewis Rebbeck <dystopianray@gmail.com> wrote:
> > They're the same as the monolithic packages but with -meta on the end.
> >
> > Easiest way to see what is in them: # emerge -pv foo-meta
>
> Thanks.
> Where's the complete list of available meta packages?
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> Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] kde-meta minus toys, games, etc

[Mick]

On 02/06/06, Raymond Lewis Rebbeck <dystopianray@gmail.com> wrote:
> $ ls /usr/portage/kde-base/ | grep meta

Thanks.  Last question:

Is emerging kdebase-meta meant to pull in 45 packages, or are there
any old kde apps in my system pulling them in as I am trying to emerge
my new split KDE?

>From the log:
===========================
1149285323:  *** emerge --update --deep --verbose kdebase-meta
1149285332:  >>> emerge (1 of 45) kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.2-r6 to /
1149285332:  === (1 of 45) Cleaning
(kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.2-r6::/usr/portage/kde-base/kdelibs/kdelibs-3.5.2-r6.ebuild)
1149285341:  === (1 of 45) Compiling/Merging
(kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.2-r6::/usr/portage/kde-base/kdelibs/kdelibs-3.5.2-r6.ebuild)
===========================

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Re: [gentoo-user] kde-meta minus toys, games, etc

[Raymond Lewis Rebbeck]

Yes, that is normal. The KDE ebuilds are 'split' now, one monolithic ebuild is 
equivalent to a few dozen split ebuilds. Each individual app or library has 
it's own ebuild.

On Saturday, 3 June 2006 6:41, Mick wrote:
> On 02/06/06, Raymond Lewis Rebbeck <dystopianray@gmail.com> wrote:
> > $ ls /usr/portage/kde-base/ | grep meta
>
> Thanks.  Last question:
>
> Is emerging kdebase-meta meant to pull in 45 packages, or are there
> any old kde apps in my system pulling them in as I am trying to emerge
> my new split KDE?
>
> From the log:
> ===========================
> 1149285323:  *** emerge --update --deep --verbose kdebase-meta
> 1149285332:  >>> emerge (1 of 45) kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.2-r6 to /
> 1149285332:  === (1 of 45) Cleaning
> (kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.2-r6::/usr/portage/kde-base/kdelibs/kdelibs-3.5.2-r6.
>ebuild) 1149285341:  === (1 of 45) Compiling/Merging
> (kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.2-r6::/usr/portage/kde-base/kdelibs/kdelibs-3.5.2-r6.
>ebuild) ===========================
>
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> Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] kde-meta minus toys, games, etc

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Fri, 2 Jun 2006 21:11:52 +0000, Mick wrote:

> Is emerging kdebase-meta meant to pull in 45 packages, or are there
> any old kde apps in my system pulling them in as I am trying to emerge
> my new split KDE?

Something like that number.

> 
> From the log:
> ===========================
> 1149285323:  *** emerge --update --deep --verbose kdebase-meta
> 1149285332:  >>> emerge (1 of 45) kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.2-r6 to /
> 1149285332:  === (1 of 45) Cleaning

Try emerge --ask --tree --verbose kde-meta to see what is pulling in the
packages.


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[gentoo-user] Re: kde-meta minus toys, games, etc

[Thomas Kirchner]

* On Jun  2 20:21, Mick (gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org) wrote:
> What's the best way to find out what -meta packages exist

eix 'kde.*-meta'

> and what they contain?

The KDE website is pretty good for that - see here:
http://kde.org/whatiskde/project.php#distribution

Tom
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: kde-meta minus toys, games, etc

[Mick]

On 02/06/06, Thomas Kirchner <lists@halffull.org> wrote:
> * On Jun  2 20:21, Mick (gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org) wrote:
> > What's the best way to find out what -meta packages exist
>
> eix 'kde.*-meta'
>
> > and what they contain?
>
> The KDE website is pretty good for that - see here:
> http://kde.org/whatiskde/project.php#distribution

Sweet!  I've bookmarked it.  :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] kde-meta minus toys, games, etc

[Philip Webb]

060602 Mick wrote:
> I uninstalled monolithic KDE & am ready to install the split KDE ebuilds.
> I want to install everything except toys, games and educational packages.

If you really mean "everything", other responses are probably best,
but you can pick & choose much more finely.  To start, you need
 kde-base/kdelibs , then  kde-base/kdebase-startkde  (incl  11  deps).
Then you can choose individual packages from  /usr/portage/kde-base/ .
You might even decide to add  1  game (smile).

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