[gentoo-user] 300GB HD

[gentoo-user] 300GB HD

[Samuel Baldwin]

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I'm planning on buying a 300GB HD from maxtor for my next primary HD.
It's a "Maxtor DiamondMax 10 300GB 3.5" IDE Ultra ATA133 Hard Drive - OEM"

(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822140166)<http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822140166>

Anyways, I was wondering if I would run into any problems with a 300GB HD,
and if this particular one would give me problems.

It's a 250V (I think) Power supply and I've already got an Nvidia GeForce
6200 GT in there, so I'm also afraid of it being too much for my computer to
handle. It would be my only HD in the machine though. I'm not sure if I
should shoot for a smaller drive. I _need_ these 300GB's though. It takes me
about 2 days to fill up a 40GB HD with everything, and that's just
single-booting.
I am content with switching to a smaller drive though if it is impossible to
run this certain HD. (Also, if anyone else knows any better deals for a
similar/better HD, please, tell me).

That's all for now-- Thanks

-- 
Samuel (shardz)

300GB Hardrive from Newegg.com: $115
32" HD LCD TV/PC Monitor: $1, 199.99
2GB of RAM: $160
GNU/Linux Operating System: Priceless

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Re: [gentoo-user] 300GB HD

[mark]

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300GB as a main hdd isnt a good idea, if the drive dies you lose all the data and your install. pickup a nice 60GB one at wallmart or something and use the 300 for data or make partitions so you wont lose everything, buit the 300GB should work fine in gentoo
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Samuel Baldwin 
  To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org 
  Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 5:18 PM
  Subject: [gentoo-user] 300GB HD


  I'm planning on buying a 300GB HD from maxtor for my next primary HD.
  It's a "Maxtor DiamondMax 10 300GB 3.5" IDE Ultra ATA133 Hard Drive - OEM"

  (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822140166)

  Anyways, I was wondering if I would run into any problems with a 300GB HD, and if this particular one would give me problems.

  It's a 250V (I think) Power supply and I've already got an Nvidia GeForce 6200 GT in there, so I'm also afraid of it being too much for my computer to handle. It would be my only HD in the machine though. I'm not sure if I should shoot for a smaller drive. I _need_ these 300GB's though. It takes me about 2 days to fill up a 40GB HD with everything, and that's just single-booting. 
  I am content with switching to a smaller drive though if it is impossible to run this certain HD. (Also, if anyone else knows any better deals for a similar/better HD, please, tell me).

  That's all for now-- Thanks 

  -- 
  Samuel (shardz)

  300GB Hardrive from Newegg.com: $115
  32" HD LCD TV/PC Monitor: $1, 199.99
  2GB of RAM: $160
  GNU/Linux Operating System: Priceless 

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[gentoo-user] Re: 300GB HD

[Peter]

On Mon, 22 May 2006 17:18:04 -0400, Samuel Baldwin wrote:

> I'm planning on buying a 300GB HD from maxtor for my next primary HD.
> It's a "Maxtor DiamondMax 10 300GB 3.5" IDE Ultra ATA133 Hard Drive - OEM"
> 
Great!

I have a 200G primary and 80G secondary drive. Both IDE.

Here are my comments.

Well, I would up your PS to at least 400 Watts. Not that the drive would
use it, but most newer CPUs need at least 400.

While I understand the other poster's concern for the size of the drive,
I disagree. It's a reality today, that data is large -- music files,
videos, etc. What _I_ do, is have a second drive installed and backup to
it compressing the data. With the large music files, I offload
periodically to DVD. I backup / once a month, and I back up /home every
night incrementally, weekly incrementally, and full monthly. Good disk
organization is very important with a large drive. Consider splitting your
system and data into partitions. Here's my layout in case you're
interested.

mars linux # mount
/dev/hda5 on / type reiserfs (rw,noatime)
/dev/hda6 on /mnt/tmp type reiserfs (rw,noatime)
/dev/hda7 on /home type reiserfs (rw,noatime)
/dev/hda8 on /mnt/src type reiserfs (rw,noatime)
# I keep portage, and other source files on hda8
/dev/hda9 on /mnt/w-dos type reiserfs (rw,noatime,notail)
# some old windows and dos and wine stuff here
/dev/hda10 on /mnt/download type ext2 (rw,noatime)
# misc software downloads and patches (mostly windoze)
/dev/hda12 on /mnt/music type ext3 (rw,noatime)
# 60GB of various music files (a lot of live recordings
# in lossless formats)
/dev/hdb5 on /mnt/extra type ext2 (rw,noatime)
# hdb is my backup drive for all except the music.
#hda11 is not shown, but that's my trusty slackware partition

Good luck!


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 300GB HD

[Hemmann, Volker Armin]

On Tuesday 23 May 2006 00:38, Peter wrote:
> On Mon, 22 May 2006 17:18:04 -0400, Samuel Baldwin wrote:
> > I'm planning on buying a 300GB HD from maxtor for my next primary HD.
> > It's a "Maxtor DiamondMax 10 300GB 3.5" IDE Ultra ATA133 Hard Drive -
> > OEM"
>
> Great!
>
> I have a 200G primary and 80G secondary drive. Both IDE.
>
> Here are my comments.
>
> Well, I would up your PS to at least 400 Watts. Not that the drive would
> use it, but most newer CPUs need at least 400.
>
> 
no, p4 need a lot of current, and big gpu's. But for most people a GOOD 360W 
PSU will work fine.

The watt printed on the package does not say anything about the quality of the 
PSU or its maximum 'combined' output. So if you tell him to buy a 400W PSU is 
like telling someone to buy a '2000ccm (2 Liter) car'. There are lots of cars 
with 2liter engines. And a lot of them are crap ;)
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 300GB HD

[Samuel Baldwin]

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One problem, only one place to put the drive. It's a shitty eMachines case.

I'm building a new comp over the summer, but I'm gonna add the 300 to this
comp, and just re-do everything once I get a new mobo and case.

I'm planning on quad-booting. Or even more.

40 GB's of Windows XP (I am a gamer. Some games I just cannot get to work
under Linux)
60 GB's of SuSE (I have an old pro version.)
80 GB's of Gentoo 2006.0 (yay!)
20 GB's of Shared Files (Music, and whatever needs to be shared)
then the rest will be unpartitioned, mainly for trying out some BSD's and
other distro's. to be partitioned as appropriate.

That's my game plan so far. It's subject to change easily.

Again, I've had trouble locating a PSU that will fit in the case. This is
worse then getting a Dell.

For my next comp, I'm obviously building my own (I got this for free in
2001). In a very, very large tower case. I'll probably then stick this
current 40GB HD in here and use the comp as a household server running
BSD/Linux and hosting LAN game servers and GNUMP3d, and whatever I see fit.

On 22/05/06, Hemmann, Volker Armin <volker.armin.hemmann@tu-clausthal.de>
wrote:
>
> On Tuesday 23 May 2006 00:38, Peter wrote:
> > On Mon, 22 May 2006 17:18:04 -0400, Samuel Baldwin wrote:
> > > I'm planning on buying a 300GB HD from maxtor for my next primary HD.
> > > It's a "Maxtor DiamondMax 10 300GB 3.5" IDE Ultra ATA133 Hard Drive -
> > > OEM"
> >
> > Great!
> >
> > I have a 200G primary and 80G secondary drive. Both IDE.
> >
> > Here are my comments.
> >
> > Well, I would up your PS to at least 400 Watts. Not that the drive would
> > use it, but most newer CPUs need at least 400.
> >
> >
> no, p4 need a lot of current, and big gpu's. But for most people a GOOD
> 360W
> PSU will work fine.
>
> The watt printed on the package does not say anything about the quality of
> the
> PSU or its maximum 'combined' output. So if you tell him to buy a 400W PSU
> is
> like telling someone to buy a '2000ccm (2 Liter) car'. There are lots of
> cars
> with 2liter engines. And a lot of them are crap ;)
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>
>


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300GB Hardrive from Newegg.com: $115
32" HD LCD TV/PC Monitor: $1, 199.99
2GB of RAM: $160
GNU/Linux Operating System: Priceless

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Re: [gentoo-user] 300GB HD

[Jerry McBride]

On Monday 22 May 2006 17:18, Samuel Baldwin wrote:
> I'm planning on buying a 300GB HD from maxtor for my next primary HD.
> It's a "Maxtor DiamondMax 10 300GB 3.5" IDE Ultra ATA133 Hard Drive - OEM"
>

--snip--

That's a nice drive, but this one is slightly better

Maxtor MaxLine III 7L300R0 300GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache IDE Ultra ATA133 Hard 
Drive - OEM

    * Model #: 7L300R0
    * Item #: N82E16822144237
    *

It's enterprise rated, 1,000,000 MTBF and I think it carries a 5 year 
warranty.



Jerry
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Re: [gentoo-user] 300GB HD

[Mattias Merilai]

Jerry McBride wrote:

>On Monday 22 May 2006 17:18, Samuel Baldwin wrote:
>  
>
>>I'm planning on buying a 300GB HD from maxtor for my next primary HD.
>>It's a "Maxtor DiamondMax 10 300GB 3.5" IDE Ultra ATA133 Hard Drive - OEM"
>>    
>>
Two maxtors have died on me, and a lot more on my friends. I'd go with 
WD or Seagate.
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AW: [gentoo-user] 300GB HD

[patrizius]

I am using two Maxtor DiamondMax10 250GB HDs in my fileserver. I am planning
on giving them away though, because they are way too loud! In my desktop
computer I have two Samsung discs. One doesn't even hear them, compared to
the Maxtors! 
Also I have good experience with WesternDigital discs. They are not really
silent too, but I am currently using a WD for like forever without any
problems!






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Jerry McBride wrote:

>On Monday 22 May 2006 17:18, Samuel Baldwin wrote:
>  
>
>>I'm planning on buying a 300GB HD from maxtor for my next primary HD.
>>It's a "Maxtor DiamondMax 10 300GB 3.5" IDE Ultra ATA133 Hard Drive - OEM"
>>    
>>
Two maxtors have died on me, and a lot more on my friends. I'd go with 
WD or Seagate.
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Re: AW: [gentoo-user] 300GB HD

[Norman Rieß]

> I am using two Maxtor DiamondMax10 250GB HDs in my fileserver. I am
> planning
> on giving them away though, because they are way too loud! In my desktop
> computer I have two Samsung discs. One doesn't even hear them, compared to
> the Maxtors!
> Also I have good experience with WesternDigital discs. They are not really
> silent too, but I am currently using a WD for like forever without any
> problems!


I have some DiamondMax 9 running (2x gamingstation, 1x workstation an 2x
fileserver) for years now. I newer used a DiamondMax10, but the 9´ers are
very reliable and silent. I have a Samsung drive in the fileserver, too,
and the Maxtors aren´t much louder. Perhaps the DiamondMax 10 changed
that, i can not tell.

WesternDigital disks tend to be silent in the beginning and get very loud
in the end in my machines.

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Re: [gentoo-user] 300GB HD

[Hemmann, Volker Armin]

On Monday 22 May 2006 23:18, Samuel Baldwin wrote:
> I'm planning on buying a 300GB HD from maxtor for my next primary HD.
> It's a "Maxtor DiamondMax 10 300GB 3.5" IDE Ultra ATA133 Hard Drive - OEM"

well, Seagate has bought maxtor (is buying maxtor at the moment) - so they 
will be gone in a short while. 

And maxtor had some quality issues in the not -so-distant-past.

I am not sure, if that are points for buying Maxtor....
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Re: [gentoo-user] 300GB HD

[Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC]

On May 23, 2006, at 7:56 AM, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:

> On Monday 22 May 2006 23:18, Samuel Baldwin wrote:
>> I'm planning on buying a 300GB HD from maxtor for my next primary HD.
>> It's a "Maxtor DiamondMax 10 300GB 3.5" IDE Ultra ATA133 Hard  
>> Drive - OEM"
>
> well, Seagate has bought maxtor (is buying maxtor at the moment) -  
> so they
> will be gone in a short while.
>
> And maxtor had some quality issues in the not -so-distant-past.
>
> I am not sure, if that are points for buying Maxtor....

All companies have problems.  I have had lots of issues with WD disks  
(SATA) about 2 years ago that I had to RMA. Also, there are problems  
with some WD SATA compatibility.  I just had to RMA a brand new out  
of the box Seagate SATA last month.  It was DOA.  I had some Fujitsu  
SCSI disks I had to RMA a few years ago.  I can't remember any Maxtor  
disks failing, though there is one disk I had to RMA a year or so ago  
and I cannot remember the make -- it could have been Maxtor.   I have  
not bought Maxtor in the last 2 years though.  Recently, based on a  
bunch of reviews of Hitachi disks, and some negatives on Seagate  
performance (in a particular realm) I have been buying Hitachi, and  
up to recently Seagate, based on their longer warranty.

Remember, all makers have issues and I am sure you can find people to  
sing the praises as well as damn any of the disk makers.

Chad

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Re: [gentoo-user] 300GB HD

[Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC]

On May 23, 2006, at 9:13 AM, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote:

>  I can't remember any Maxtor disks failing, though there is one  
> disk I had to RMA a year or so ago and I cannot remember the make  
> -- it could have been Maxtor.

Actually, I went and looked it up. It was a WD drive (yet another).   
Almost exactly 1 year ago it was sent back.

Chad

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Re: [gentoo-user] 300GB HD

[Teresa and Dale]

Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote:

>
> On May 23, 2006, at 9:13 AM, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote:
>
>>  I can't remember any Maxtor disks failing, though there is one  disk
>> I had to RMA a year or so ago and I cannot remember the make  -- it
>> could have been Maxtor.
>
>
> Actually, I went and looked it up. It was a WD drive (yet another).  
> Almost exactly 1 year ago it was sent back.
>
> Chad
>
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>
>
>

Hmmmmm, I have one of each.  The Maxtor is faster since it has more
cache.  Sound wise I can't tell them apart. 


> root@smoker / # hdparm -i /dev/hda
>
> /dev/hda:
>
>  Model=Maxtor 6Y080P0, FwRev=YAR41BW0, SerialNo=Y22J9KXE
>  Config={ Fixed }
>  RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=57
>  BuffType=DualPortCache, BuffSize=7936kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=16
>  CurCHS=4047/16/255, CurSects=16511760, LBA=yes, LBAsects=160086528
>  IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:120,w/IORDY:120}, tDMA={min:120,rec:120}
>  PIO modes:  pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4
>  DMA modes:  mdma0 mdma1 mdma2
>  UDMA modes: udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4 udma5 *udma6
>  AdvancedPM=yes: disabled (255) WriteCache=enabled
>  Drive conforms to: (null):  ATA/ATAPI-1 ATA/ATAPI-2 ATA/ATAPI-3
> ATA/ATAPI-4 ATA/ATAPI-5 ATA/ATAPI-6 ATA/ATAPI-7
>
>  * signifies the current active mode
>
> root@smoker / # hdparm -i /dev/hdb
>
> /dev/hdb:
>
>  Model=WDC WD800BB-00DKA0, FwRev=77.07W77, SerialNo=WD-WCAHL2497094
>  Config={ HardSect NotMFM HdSw>15uSec SpinMotCtl Fixed DTR>5Mbs
> FmtGapReq }
>  RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=57600, SectSize=600, ECCbytes=74
>  BuffType=DualPortCache, BuffSize=2048kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=16
>  CurCHS=16383/16/63, CurSects=16514064, LBA=yes, LBAsects=156301488
>  IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:120,w/IORDY:120}, tDMA={min:120,rec:120}
>  PIO modes:  pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4
>  DMA modes:  mdma0 mdma1 mdma2
>  UDMA modes: udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4 *udma5
>  AdvancedPM=no WriteCache=enabled
>  Drive conforms to: Unspecified:  ATA/ATAPI-1 ATA/ATAPI-2 ATA/ATAPI-3
> ATA/ATAPI-4 ATA/ATAPI-5 ATA/ATAPI-6
>
>  * signifies the current active mode
>
> root@smoker / # 


It is really rare that I have a drive to go out.  Maybe I'm just lucky. 
<shrugs >  I do have a few drives that are over a decade old and some a
couple decades old.

Dale
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Re: [gentoo-user] 300GB HD

[Samuel Baldwin]

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Well, I heard good things and bad things about Maxtor. Mainly bad.

If anyone can show me a good WD or Seagate drive for a similar price and the
same amount of space, please, do so :)   .


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300GB Hardrive from Newegg.com: $115
32" HD LCD TV/PC Monitor: $1, 199.99
2GB of RAM: $160
GNU/Linux Operating System: Priceless

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Re: [gentoo-user] 300GB HD

[Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC]

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On May 23, 2006, at 2:27 PM, Samuel Baldwin wrote:

> Well, I heard good things and bad things about Maxtor. Mainly bad.
>
> If anyone can show me a good WD or Seagate drive for a similar  
> price and the same amount of space, please, do so :)   .

Zipzoomfly.com has the seagate IDE 7200RPM Barracuda 7200.8 with 8mb  
cache for $111, free shipping in USA and the 7200.9 with 16mb of  
cache for $114.99, again free shipping

They have the Samsung HD300LD with 8mb cache for 106 and free shipping

The SATA versions are Seagate 7200.8 8mb cache for $122.55 free  
shipping  Seagate 7200.9 16mb cache for $115 free shipping

newegg.com probably has a similar range available at similar prices

Chad

>
>
> -- 
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>
> 300GB Hardrive from Newegg.com: $115
> 32" HD LCD TV/PC Monitor: $1, 199.99
> 2GB of RAM: $160
> GNU/Linux Operating System: Priceless

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Re: [gentoo-user] 300GB HD

[Joe Menola]

On Tuesday 23 May 2006 3:27 pm, Samuel Baldwin wrote:
> If anyone can show me a good WD or Seagate drive for a similar price and
> the same amount of space, please, do so :)   .

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1901400&CatId=134

-jm

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Re: [gentoo-user] 300GB HD

[Thomas T. Veldhouse]

Teresa and Dale wrote:
>
> It is really rare that I have a drive to go out.  Maybe I'm just lucky. 
> <shrugs >  I do have a few drives that are over a decade old and some a
> couple decades old.
>
>   
I have owned dozens of drives over the years.  The only reliable brands 
that I have used are Western Digital, IBM and Seagate.

I have tried Maxtor three separate times.  Twice the drive failed 
withing three months, and in both cases, the receipt magically 
disappeared with the box that *somebody* threw out.  The last drive in 
just over one year (not willing to mail it in for the return of $40 ... 
lots of important data that needs cleansing first).  I swear to GOD that 
I will NEVER buy another Maxtor!

:-)

Seagates are awesome ... 5 year warrantee to boot!

Tom Veldhouse
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