[gentoo-user] KDE Very Slow - Failed Sleep Command

[gentoo-user] KDE Very Slow - Failed Sleep Command

[Lord Sauron]

Hello,

This happened once before in Kubuntu, though this time I was more
alert and know what I did right before this happened.  So what did
transpire?

I sent my laptop into sleep mode via the popup menu on the battery
monitor in KDE.  It did this, however, when the machine came out of
sleep mode, there was no monitor.  It wasn't on.  I tried my basic set
of tricks: try and change the screen brightness; try and switch
monitors via the key combo on the laptop; close the lid and re-open
it; press the key combo to turn the monitor off; press the key combo
to go back to sleep mode (didn't work).

Eventually I picked a button that did work: POWER.  The system shut
down normally!  After X11 died, it went back the the framebuffer and
acted like nothing had happened.

However, right after this, KDE has been acting *really* slow.  Much
slower than it should.  # top revealed that artsd, xorg, and kded were
eating cpu time.  This is the same behaviour as on Kubuntu before.  I
suspect the cause was the same, however, I don't remember exactly so I
won't point fingers.

Do any of you know what this is?  Do you think if I recompiled xorg,
kde, and arts if it'd fix the problem?  Or, even better, is there a
way to axe all the configuration settings and see if that fixes the
problem?  Please help, I think it's affecting Gnome as well (scary!)

Thanks for any input you can give!

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE Very Slow - Failed Sleep Command

[Hemmann, Volker Armin]

On Wednesday 12 April 2006 01:45, Lord Sauron wrote:
> Hello,
>
> This happened once before in Kubuntu, though this time I was more
> alert and know what I did right before this happened.  So what did
> transpire?
>
> I sent my laptop into sleep mode via the popup menu on the battery
> monitor in KDE.  It did this, however, when the machine came out of
> sleep mode, there was no monitor.  It wasn't on.  I tried my basic set
> of tricks: try and change the screen brightness; try and switch
> monitors via the key combo on the laptop; close the lid and re-open
> it; press the key combo to turn the monitor off; press the key combo
> to go back to sleep mode (didn't work).
>
> Eventually I picked a button that did work: POWER.  The system shut
> down normally!  After X11 died, it went back the the framebuffer and
> acted like nothing had happened.
>
> However, right after this, KDE has been acting *really* slow.  Much
> slower than it should.  # top revealed that artsd, xorg, and kded were
> eating cpu time.  This is the same behaviour as on Kubuntu before.  I
> suspect the cause was the same, however, I don't remember exactly so I
> won't point fingers.
>
> Do any of you know what this is?  Do you think if I recompiled xorg,
> kde, and arts if it'd fix the problem?  Or, even better, is there a
> way to axe all the configuration settings and see if that fixes the
> problem?  Please help, I think it's affecting Gnome as well (scary!)

recompiling will fix NOTHING.

There are a lot of temporary files in /tmp and ~ / remove them and see if the 
problem is still there.
All KDE related configs are in ~/.kde3.5 (.kde3.4), so (re)moving that sets 
KDE back to its 'fresh' state.
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE Very Slow - Failed Sleep Command

[Martins Steinbergs]

On Wednesday 12 April 2006 22:59, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
> On Wednesday 12 April 2006 01:45, Lord Sauron wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > This happened once before in Kubuntu, though this time I was more
> > alert and know what I did right before this happened.  So what did
> > transpire?
> >
> > I sent my laptop into sleep mode via the popup menu on the battery
> > monitor in KDE.  It did this, however, when the machine came out of
> > sleep mode, there was no monitor.  It wasn't on.  I tried my basic set
> > of tricks: try and change the screen brightness; try and switch
> > monitors via the key combo on the laptop; close the lid and re-open
> > it; press the key combo to turn the monitor off; press the key combo
> > to go back to sleep mode (didn't work).
> >
> > Eventually I picked a button that did work: POWER.  The system shut
> > down normally!  After X11 died, it went back the the framebuffer and
> > acted like nothing had happened.
> >
> > However, right after this, KDE has been acting *really* slow.  Much
> > slower than it should.  # top revealed that artsd, xorg, and kded were
> > eating cpu time.  This is the same behaviour as on Kubuntu before.  I
> > suspect the cause was the same, however, I don't remember exactly so I
> > won't point fingers.
> >
> > Do any of you know what this is?  Do you think if I recompiled xorg,
> > kde, and arts if it'd fix the problem?  Or, even better, is there a
> > way to axe all the configuration settings and see if that fixes the
> > problem?  Please help, I think it's affecting Gnome as well (scary!)
>
> recompiling will fix NOTHING.
>
> There are a lot of temporary files in /tmp and ~ / remove them and see if
> the problem is still there.
> All KDE related configs are in ~/.kde3.5 (.kde3.4), so (re)moving that sets
> KDE back to its 'fresh' state.

read ~/.xsession-errors
maybe some hint there, once i had that file fill free space on /home with few 
GB 'cause busy filling errors

before start KDE also try remove previous session saves, maybe there some 
sassion saved in bad state
rm ~/.kde/share/config/session/*


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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE Very Slow - Failed Sleep Command

[Teresa and Dale]

Martins Steinbergs wrote:

>
>
>read ~/.xsession-errors
>maybe some hint there, once i had that file fill free space on /home with few 
>GB 'cause busy filling errors
>
>before start KDE also try remove previous session saves, maybe there some 
>sassion saved in bad state
>rm ~/.kde/share/config/session/*
>
>
>  
>

You might also want to use top to see what, if anything, is using up
your CPU time.  Also keep in mind that if the CPU is fairly idle that
the hard drive may be busy as well.  I ran into this once before on a
really slow system and it was the updatedb program.  It was nice'd
correctly but that doesn't apply to the hard drive.  I read earlier that
they are working on that too though.

Just a thought.

Dale
:-)  :-)
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE Very Slow - Failed Sleep Command

[Lord Sauron]

On 4/12/06, Hemmann, Volker Armin <volker.armin.hemmann@tu-clausthal.de> wrote:
> On Wednesday 12 April 2006 01:45, Lord Sauron wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > This happened once before in Kubuntu, though this time I was more
> > alert and know what I did right before this happened.  So what did
> > transpire?
> >
> > I sent my laptop into sleep mode via the popup menu on the battery
> > monitor in KDE.  It did this, however, when the machine came out of
> > sleep mode, there was no monitor.  It wasn't on.  I tried my basic set
> > of tricks: try and change the screen brightness; try and switch
> > monitors via the key combo on the laptop; close the lid and re-open
> > it; press the key combo to turn the monitor off; press the key combo
> > to go back to sleep mode (didn't work).
> >
> > Eventually I picked a button that did work: POWER.  The system shut
> > down normally!  After X11 died, it went back the the framebuffer and
> > acted like nothing had happened.
> >
> > However, right after this, KDE has been acting *really* slow.  Much
> > slower than it should.  # top revealed that artsd, xorg, and kded were
> > eating cpu time.  This is the same behaviour as on Kubuntu before.  I
> > suspect the cause was the same, however, I don't remember exactly so I
> > won't point fingers.
> >
> > Do any of you know what this is?  Do you think if I recompiled xorg,
> > kde, and arts if it'd fix the problem?  Or, even better, is there a
> > way to axe all the configuration settings and see if that fixes the
> > problem?  Please help, I think it's affecting Gnome as well (scary!)
>
> recompiling will fix NOTHING.

If the filesystem got corrupted it might do something... though in
retrospect not likely.

> There are a lot of temporary files in /tmp and ~ / remove them and see if the
> problem is still there.

Actually, I did # top and took a closer look...  my pagefile wasn't
mounted.  I fixed that...  I think a hibernate command axed the swap
partition.  mkswap and swapon then fixed that problem.  Oh well... 
it's what you get for toying with the (highly-experimental) ACPI
stuff.

> All KDE related configs are in ~/.kde3.5 (.kde3.4), so (re)moving that sets
> KDE back to its 'fresh' state.

Luckily I won't have to do that yet!  Back when I was using Kubuntu I
didn't know about mkswap and swapon, so I was rather mystified. 
However, I'm really happy I was able to find the problem.  Shows I'm
learning something : )

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE Very Slow - Failed Sleep Command

[Lord Sauron]

On 4/12/06, Teresa and Dale <teendale@vista-express.com> wrote:
> Martins Steinbergs wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >read ~/.xsession-errors
> >maybe some hint there, once i had that file fill free space on /home with few
> >GB 'cause busy filling errors

Yeah, I'll be looking in there shortly to see if there's any residual problems.

> >before start KDE also try remove previous session saves, maybe there some
> >sassion saved in bad state
> >rm ~/.kde/share/config/session/*

I'll be doing that too.

> You might also want to use top to see what, if anything, is using up
> your CPU time.  Also keep in mind that if the CPU is fairly idle that
> the hard drive may be busy as well.  I ran into this once before on a
> really slow system and it was the updatedb program.  It was nice'd
> correctly but that doesn't apply to the hard drive.  I read earlier that
> they are working on that too though.

On my laptop, it used to be (under the tyranny of the 350meg windows
pagefile) that if the hard drive lit up the system was busy.  Under
linux if the cpu lights up it's busy.  It's a nice change.  The hard
drive for the X40 is so darn slow...

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE Very Slow - Failed Sleep Command

[Teresa and Dale]

Lord Sauron wrote:

>>You might also want to use top to see what, if anything, is using up
>>your CPU time.  Also keep in mind that if the CPU is fairly idle that
>>the hard drive may be busy as well.  I ran into this once before on a
>>really slow system and it was the updatedb program.  It was nice'd
>>correctly but that doesn't apply to the hard drive.  I read earlier that
>>they are working on that too though.
>>    
>>
>
>On my laptop, it used to be (under the tyranny of the 350meg windows
>pagefile) that if the hard drive lit up the system was busy.  Under
>linux if the cpu lights up it's busy.  It's a nice change.  The hard
>drive for the X40 is so darn slow...
>
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>========== GCv3.12 ==========
>GCS d-(++) s+: a? C++ UL+>++++ P+
>L++ E--- W+(+++) N++ o? K? w--- O? M+
>V? PS- PE+ Y-(--) PGP- t+++ 5? X R tv-- b+
>                DI+++ D+ G e* h- !r !y
>========= END GCv3.12 ========
>
>  
>

My light blew out on one of my servers.  No smoke but still no workey. 
:-(  I have to use top instead.  Since the drive is so old, I can hear
it with no problems at all.

Dale
:-)
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE Very Slow - Failed Sleep Command

[Lord Sauron]

On 4/12/06, Teresa and Dale <teendale@vista-express.com> wrote:
> My light blew out on one of my servers.  No smoke but still no workey.
> :-(  I have to use top instead.  Since the drive is so old, I can hear
> it with no problems at all.

A new LED and a soddering iron and you could fix it...

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE Very Slow - Failed Sleep Command

[Teresa and Dale]

Lord Sauron wrote:

>On 4/12/06, Teresa and Dale <teendale@vista-express.com> wrote:
>  
>
>>My light blew out on one of my servers.  No smoke but still no workey.
>>:-(  I have to use top instead.  Since the drive is so old, I can hear
>>it with no problems at all.
>>    
>>
>
>A new LED and a soddering iron and you could fix it...
>
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>========== GCv3.12 ==========
>GCS d-(++) s+: a? C++ UL+>++++ P+
>L++ E--- W+(+++) N++ o? K? w--- O? M+
>V? PS- PE+ Y-(--) PGP- t+++ 5? X R tv-- b+
>                DI+++ D+ G e* h- !r !y
>========= END GCv3.12 ========
>
>  
>

Naaa.  I don't look at it much anyway.  As long as it lets me ssh in, I
know it is working.  I even had another thought, what if I plugged the
cable up backwards.  O_O  I have done that before.  < hangs head in shame >

Dale
:-)
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