[gentoo-user] I don't want to upgrade to xorg-x11-7.0

[gentoo-user] I don't want to upgrade to xorg-x11-7.0

[Daevid Vincent]

How do I prevent my server from upgrading to Xorg 7.0 modular 
(although ideally, I would like to upgrade any 6.x regular Xorg versions
that come along).

I've had no luck getting it to work on my Dell notebook, and I fear it will
only be equally painful on my server.

*  x11-base/xorg-x11
      Latest version available: 7.0-r1
      Latest version installed: 6.8.2-r6

I did this:

server portage # cat /etc/portage/package.mask 
=x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6

But when I do an "emerge -Davu world" it still tries to pull xorg
dependencies:

!!!(dependency required by "x11-base/xorg-x11-7.0-r1" [ebuild])

I *DO* have this in my package.keywords file, along with a bunch of other
ones for KDE/Gnome/etc:

x11-base/xorg-x11 ~x86

But shouldn't the 'mask' file have priority?


Daevid.

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Re: [gentoo-user] I don't want to upgrade to xorg-x11-7.0

[Alexander H. Faeroey]

On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 02:45:34PM -0700, Daevid Vincent wrote:
> How do I prevent my server from upgrading to Xorg 7.0 modular 
> (although ideally, I would like to upgrade any 6.x regular Xorg versions
> that come along).
> 
> I've had no luck getting it to work on my Dell notebook, and I fear it will
> only be equally painful on my server.
> 
> *  x11-base/xorg-x11
>       Latest version available: 7.0-r1
>       Latest version installed: 6.8.2-r6
> 
> I did this:
> 
> server portage # cat /etc/portage/package.mask 
> =x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6

I think you need to add >=x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6

"Bigger or equal to"

Regards
Alex

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Re: [gentoo-user] I don't want to upgrade to xorg-x11-7.0

[Richard Fish]

On 4/6/06, Daevid Vincent <daevid@daevid.com> wrote:
> server portage # cat /etc/portage/package.mask
> =x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6

You did the opposite of what you wanted to do...you masked out only
the current 6.8 version.  What you want is:

>=x11-base/xorg-x11-7

However, I doubt there will be any more releases of 6.x.  You may also
find yourself masking out more and more parts of the modular X tree. 
If you want to keep updating this system, avoiding modular X is going
to be more and more difficult.

BTW, did you happen to try the open-source nv driver on your laptop?

-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] I don't want to upgrade to xorg-x11-7.0

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Thu, 6 Apr 2006 14:45:34 -0700, Daevid Vincent wrote:

> server portage # cat /etc/portage/package.mask 
> =x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6
> 
> But when I do an "emerge -Davu world" it still tries to pull xorg
> dependencies:

Because you have masked one specific version. 6.8.2-r6 is masked, 7.0
and up are not. The correct entry to put in package.mask is
">=x11-base/xorg-x11-7.0"


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Re: [gentoo-user] I don't want to upgrade to xorg-x11-7.0

[Willie Wong]

On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 02:45:34PM -0700, Penguin Lover Daevid Vincent squawked:
> *  x11-base/xorg-x11
>       Latest version available: 7.0-r1
>       Latest version installed: 6.8.2-r6
> 
> server portage # cat /etc/portage/package.mask 
> =x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6

You don't want that. You want:
  >=x11-base/xorg-x11-7.0
What you have would mask the version you currently have installed,
which would force a upgrade if available, or a downgrade otherwise. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] I don't want to upgrade to xorg-x11-7.0

[Jeff Rollin]

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Daevid,

What reason do you have for not wanting to upgrade to R7, if I may ask? For
me it's because it's masked, but I see you already use the ~x86 tree for
some packages. Once it's stable it should be fine, though. Yeah, it's a
nitpick, but the biggest change I don't like to X was made several releases
ago ( -- spreading X all over /usr instead of keeping it in /usr/X11R6). If
it weren't there for hysterical raisins, though, it should of course be in
/opt. Was that change made by the X.org people or just by the Gentoo people?

Jeff.

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Re: [gentoo-user] I don't want to upgrade to xorg-x11-7.0

[Bo Andresen]

On Thursday 06 April 2006 23:59, Alexander H. Faeroey wrote:
> > server portage # cat /etc/portage/package.mask
> > =x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6
>
> I think you need to add >=x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6
>
> "Bigger or equal to"

NO! That would force him to downgrade. He only wanted to mask version 7 and 
up.

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Re: [gentoo-user] I don't want to upgrade to xorg-x11-7.0

[Bo Andresen]

On Thursday 06 April 2006 23:45, Daevid Vincent wrote:
> How do I prevent my server from upgrading to Xorg 7.0 modular
> (although ideally, I would like to upgrade any 6.x regular Xorg versions
> that come along).
[SNIP]
> server portage # cat /etc/portage/package.mask
> =x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6
>
> But when I do an "emerge -Davu world" it still tries to pull xorg
> dependencies:
>
> !!!(dependency required by "x11-base/xorg-x11-7.0-r1" [ebuild])
>
> I *DO* have this in my package.keywords file, along with a bunch of other
> ones for KDE/Gnome/etc:
>
> x11-base/xorg-x11 ~x86
>
> But shouldn't the 'mask' file have priority?

You really seem to have misunderstood the concept of masked packages. Richard 
and Neil have told you what to do but I would advise you to read the 
following:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=2&chap=1#doc_chap4
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=3&chap=3

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Re: [gentoo-user] I don't want to upgrade to xorg-x11-7.0

[Thomas G. Willis]

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On 4/6/06, Daevid Vincent <daevid@daevid.com> wrote:
>
> How do I prevent my server from upgrading to Xorg 7.0 modular
> (although ideally, I would like to upgrade any 6.x regular Xorg versions
> that come along).
>


I have the opposite want/need. I want xorg-x11-7.0.

All I get is 6.8.2-r6

Maybe it's cuz of the amd64?


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Re: [gentoo-user] I don't want to upgrade to xorg-x11-7.0

[Hemmann, Volker Armin]

On Friday 07 April 2006 02:21, Thomas G. Willis wrote:
> On 4/6/06, Daevid Vincent <daevid@daevid.com> wrote:
> > How do I prevent my server from upgrading to Xorg 7.0 modular
> > (although ideally, I would like to upgrade any 6.x regular Xorg versions
> > that come along).
>
> I have the opposite want/need. I want xorg-x11-7.0.
>
> All I get is 6.8.2-r6
>
> Maybe it's cuz of the amd64?
>

no it is because of ~amd64
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RE: [gentoo-user] I don't want to upgrade to xorg-x11-7.0

[Daevid Vincent]

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Well, I followed the wiki instructions on my Dell i8200 / nvidia notebook,
and now X7 won't start. I was getting some help on this list, but everyone
is out of ideas or it's just lost in the sea of other emails. I don't want
my server to succumb to the same fate. I figured I'd just wait it out till I
either figure out how to get X7 working, or, it works itself out.


  _____  

From: Jeff Rollin [mailto:jeff.rollin@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 3:17 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] I don't want to upgrade to xorg-x11-7.0


Daevid,

What reason do you have for not wanting to upgrade to R7, if I may ask? For
me it's because it's masked, but I see you already use the ~x86 tree for
some packages. Once it's stable it should be fine, though. Yeah, it's a
nitpick, but the biggest change I don't like to X was made several releases
ago ( -- spreading X all over /usr instead of keeping it in /usr/X11R6). If
it weren't there for hysterical raisins, though, it should of course be in
/opt. Was that change made by the X.org people or just by the Gentoo people?

Jeff.



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RE: [gentoo-user] I don't want to upgrade to xorg-x11-7.0

[Daevid Vincent]

 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: richard.j.fish@gmail.com 
> [mailto:richard.j.fish@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Richard Fish
> Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 3:06 PM
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] I don't want to upgrade to xorg-x11-7.0
> 
> On 4/6/06, Daevid Vincent <daevid@daevid.com> wrote:
> > server portage # cat /etc/portage/package.mask
> > =x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6
> 
> You did the opposite of what you wanted to do...you masked out only
> the current 6.8 version.  What you want is:
> 
> >=x11-base/xorg-x11-7
> 
> However, I doubt there will be any more releases of 6.x.  You may also
> find yourself masking out more and more parts of the modular X tree. 
> If you want to keep updating this system, avoiding modular X is going
> to be more and more difficult.

Well. The server is critical. I can't have that be down, so I'm fine with
leaving X6 for now till X7 is figured out or whatever. I'm in no rush. But
it was preventing me from doing an "emerge -Davu world" to see what else I
might need (such as the new rails)

> BTW, did you happen to try the open-source nv driver on your laptop?

No. I haven't had time to mess around with X7 on my notebook. I get so
frustrated with Linux sometimes. I swear I'm on the verge of getting a Mac
Pro (now that you can dual boot XP/OSX)

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Re: [gentoo-user] I don't want to upgrade to xorg-x11-7.0

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Thu, 6 Apr 2006 23:13:52 -0700, Daevid Vincent wrote:

> Well. The server is critical. I can't have that be down, so I'm fine
> with leaving X6 for now till X7 is figured out or whatever.

What type of server is this that depends on X?


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Re: [gentoo-user] I don't want to upgrade to xorg-x11-7.0

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Thu, 6 Apr 2006 19:21:44 -0500, Thomas G. Willis wrote:

> I have the opposite want/need. I want xorg-x11-7.0.
> 
> All I get is 6.8.2-r6
> 
> Maybe it's cuz of the amd64?

7.0 is not available in amd64, you need ~amd64.


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RE: [gentoo-user] I don't want to upgrade to xorg-x11-7.0

[Daevid Vincent]

It doesn't "depend" on X. I happen to have X on it and type "startx" on
occasion -- mostly to run "meld" for my etc-updates. It comes in handy for
other debugging for apache/mysql/php too.

The server runs LAMP stuff, mail, mailman, firewall, dhcpd, ntp, etc. 

However, b/c I do have X installed, I couldn't get past the 754 billion
emerge dependencies that X7 had ~x86 masked, to see what a 'world' or
'system' wants to upgrade.

Dig?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Neil Bothwick [mailto:neil@digimed.co.uk] 
> Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 12:37 AM
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] I don't want to upgrade to xorg-x11-7.0
> 
> On Thu, 6 Apr 2006 23:13:52 -0700, Daevid Vincent wrote:
> 
> > Well. The server is critical. I can't have that be down, so I'm fine
> > with leaving X6 for now till X7 is figured out or whatever.
> 
> What type of server is this that depends on X?

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Re: [gentoo-user] I don't want to upgrade to xorg-x11-7.0

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 17:24:25 -0700, Daevid Vincent wrote:

> However, b/c I do have X installed, I couldn't get past the 754 billion
> emerge dependencies that X7 had ~x86 masked, to see what a 'world' or
> 'system' wants to upgrade.
> 
> Dig?

Dig! Did putting the correct line in package.mask get round this?


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RE: [gentoo-user] I don't want to upgrade to xorg-x11-7.0

[Daevid Vincent]

Indeed it did. :)

"You had me at EHLO" --E.Webb (10.04.05)  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Neil Bothwick [mailto:neil@digimed.co.uk] 
> Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 1:02 AM
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] I don't want to upgrade to xorg-x11-7.0
> 
> On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 17:24:25 -0700, Daevid Vincent wrote:
> 
> > However, b/c I do have X installed, I couldn't get past the 
> 754 billion
> > emerge dependencies that X7 had ~x86 masked, to see what a 
> 'world' or
> > 'system' wants to upgrade.
> > 
> > Dig?
> 
> Dig! Did putting the correct line in package.mask get round this?
> 
> 
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> 
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> unspoiled, unrepeatable, and can be appreciated in its surprisingness.
> 

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