* [gentoo-user] firefox and svg
@ 2006-04-04 18:16 CapSel
2006-04-04 18:55 ` Christoph Eckert
2006-04-04 18:59 ` [gentoo-user] emerge without download go moko
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From: CapSel @ 2006-04-04 18:16 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
I wanted to make some animations not using flash so I founded svg, but
firefox 1.0.7 does not support it. I emerged adobesvg and:
1. firefox 1.0.7 (-bin) after changeing from page with svg to other
crashes all open windows. After right-click I can see menu of
adobesvg; without adobesvg it prompts for file download.
2. firefox 1.5.0.1 (~x86)(-bin) does not show animations - only first
phase, before animations. After right-click I can see only firefox
menu. On "about:plugins" it shows that svg handled by adobesvg; after
deinstalling adobesvg "about:plugins" there is no diffrence - image is
not animated and the menu is the same (firefox's).
3. mozilla (-bin) (suite) shows animations (with adobesvg) and does not crash...
4. Opera shows all animations without adobesvg :)
...and I wanted to use firefox...
Can someone help me?
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* Re: [gentoo-user] firefox and svg
2006-04-04 18:16 [gentoo-user] firefox and svg CapSel
@ 2006-04-04 18:55 ` Christoph Eckert
2006-04-04 19:05 ` CapSel
2006-04-04 18:59 ` [gentoo-user] emerge without download go moko
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From: Christoph Eckert @ 2006-04-04 18:55 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
> Can someone help me?
AFAIR Firefox 1.5 supports SVG, but only a subset of the complete
specification. I thinks that's why animations do not appear.
I also created some "simple" static SVGs, but Firefoy does not display
hatches in objects nor does it render text objects properly. So I
converted the text to paths and now it gets displayed correctly, but it
would be great if text could stay as text.
So if you want to display SVG animations in current browsers, I guess
you're too early.
Best regards
ce
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* Re: [gentoo-user] firefox and svg
2006-04-04 18:55 ` Christoph Eckert
@ 2006-04-04 19:05 ` CapSel
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From: CapSel @ 2006-04-04 19:05 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On 4/4/06, Christoph Eckert <ce@christeck.de> wrote:
>
> > Can someone help me?
>
> AFAIR Firefox 1.5 supports SVG, but only a subset of the complete
> specification. I thinks that's why animations do not appear.
>
> I also created some "simple" static SVGs, but Firefoy does not display
> hatches in objects nor does it render text objects properly. So I
> converted the text to paths and now it gets displayed correctly, but it
> would be great if text could stay as text.
>
> So if you want to display SVG animations in current browsers, I guess
> you're too early.
>
>
> Best regards
>
>
> ce
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>
>
:(
so... is there a way to force FF1.5.0.1 to use adobesvg or to stop
crashing FF1.0.7?
or I switch to Opera which is not OpenSource ;)
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* [gentoo-user] emerge without download
2006-04-04 18:16 [gentoo-user] firefox and svg CapSel
2006-04-04 18:55 ` Christoph Eckert
@ 2006-04-04 18:59 ` go moko
2006-04-04 19:22 ` Devon Miller
2006-04-05 2:53 ` Gabriel Dain
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From: go moko @ 2006-04-04 18:59 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Hi, all
Please excuse my poor english, but I've a problem I
didn't find solution for.
I've no internet connexion on my Gentoo machine, so I
download first all the files and put them in
/usr/portage/distfiles. After that, I can make an
"emerge <package>".
But for some packages, like libXext, emerge still try
to download the files from internet, even if the file
is present in DISTDIR and good. I've tried to execute
"ebuild <package> unpack", as explained in the manual,
but no effect. I've also tried to regenerate the
digest file, but no effect neither. I've looked in the
ebuild file, and don't see any difference with another
ebuild file which works fine.
Thanks for any help
G. Moko
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* Re: [gentoo-user] emerge without download
2006-04-04 18:59 ` [gentoo-user] emerge without download go moko
@ 2006-04-04 19:22 ` Devon Miller
2006-04-04 19:35 ` go moko
2006-04-05 2:53 ` Gabriel Dain
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From: Devon Miller @ 2006-04-04 19:22 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
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Are you sure it's not a dependency? Try "emerge -pD libXext" to get a list
of everything that is needed to build and install that library.
dcm
On 4/4/06, go moko <gomoko@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Hi, all
>
> I've no internet connexion on my Gentoo machine, so I
> download first all the files and put them in
> /usr/portage/distfiles. After that, I can make an
> "emerge <package>".
> But for some packages, like libXext, emerge still try
> to download the files from internet, even if the file
> is present in DISTDIR and good.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] emerge without download
2006-04-04 19:22 ` Devon Miller
@ 2006-04-04 19:35 ` go moko
2006-04-04 21:52 ` Richard Fish
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From: go moko @ 2006-04-04 19:35 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
--- Devon Miller <devon.c.miller@gmail.com> wrote:
> Are you sure it's not a dependency? Try "emerge -pD
> libXext" to get a list
> of everything that is needed to build and install
> that library.
>
> dcm
No, I've checked that. And libXext is just an example,
but other packages (a minority) act as this one.
emerge try to download the exact file that I've put in
/usr/portage/distfiles. I checked this too by doing an
'ls -l' on the file that emerge try to download (by
cut'n paste, to be sure), and the file is here, with
good rights and nothing special.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] emerge without download
2006-04-04 19:35 ` go moko
@ 2006-04-04 21:52 ` Richard Fish
2006-04-05 11:48 ` go moko
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From: Richard Fish @ 2006-04-04 21:52 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On 4/4/06, go moko <gomoko@yahoo.com> wrote:
> --- Devon Miller <devon.c.miller@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Are you sure it's not a dependency? Try "emerge -pD
> > libXext" to get a list
> > of everything that is needed to build and install
> > that library.
> >
> > dcm
>
> No, I've checked that. And libXext is just an example,
> but other packages (a minority) act as this one.
> emerge try to download the exact file that I've put in
> /usr/portage/distfiles. I checked this too by doing an
> 'ls -l' on the file that emerge try to download (by
> cut'n paste, to be sure), and the file is here, with
> good rights and nothing special.
I've worked this way before, and it is definitely possible to do.
Can you post the output of:
emerge -pv --fetchonly libXext
ls -l /usr/portage/distfiles/libXext*
emerge --info
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* Re: [gentoo-user] emerge without download
2006-04-04 21:52 ` Richard Fish
@ 2006-04-05 11:48 ` go moko
2006-04-05 12:50 ` Benno Schulenberg
2006-04-05 15:09 ` Neil Bothwick
0 siblings, 2 replies; 51+ messages in thread
From: go moko @ 2006-04-05 11:48 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
--- Richard Fish <bigfish@asmallpond.org> wrote:
> > No, I've checked that. And libXext is just an
> example,
> > but other packages (a minority) act as this one.
> > emerge try to download the exact file that I've
> put in
> > /usr/portage/distfiles. I checked this too by
> doing an
> > 'ls -l' on the file that emerge try to download
> (by
> > cut'n paste, to be sure), and the file is here,
> with
> > good rights and nothing special.
>
> I've worked this way before, and it is definitely
> possible to do.
I agree. All others packages until this one and some
others linked to x11 worked fine with this method.
It's why I don't understand what's happen.
> Can you post the output of:
>
> emerge -pv --fetchonly libXext
These are the packages that would be fetched, in
order:
Calculating dependencies
http://xorg.freedesktop.org/releases/individual/lib/libXext-1.0.0.tar.bz2
http://xorg.freedesktop.org/releases/X11R7.0/src/everything/libXext-1.0.0.tar.bz2
... done!
> ls -l /usr/portage/distfiles/libXext*
-rw-rw-r-- 2 root portage 248688 Feb 16 19:34
/usr/portage/distfiles/libXext-1.0.0.tar.bz2
> emerge --info
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linguas_-wo linguas_-xh linguas_-sah linguas_-yao
linguas_-yap linguas_-yi linguas_-yo linguas_-znd
linguas_-zen linguas_-za linguas_-zu linguas_-zun
userland_GNU"
Unset: ASFLAGS, CTARGET, EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS,
INSTALL_MASK, LANG, LC_ALL, LDFLAGS, PORTDIR_OVERLAY
Hope this helps.
Thx
G. Moko
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* Re: [gentoo-user] emerge without download
2006-04-05 11:48 ` go moko
@ 2006-04-05 12:50 ` Benno Schulenberg
2006-04-05 15:46 ` Matthias Bethke
2006-04-05 15:09 ` Neil Bothwick
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From: Benno Schulenberg @ 2006-04-05 12:50 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
go moko wrote:
> LINGUAS="fr en en-us -ab -ace -ach -ada -aa -afh -af
> -aka -akk -sq -ale -am -i-ami -ar -ar-dz -ar-eg -ar-iq
> -ar-jo -ar-kw -ar-lb -ar-ly -ar-ma -ar-om -ar-qa
> [...]
O.O
Mention in LINGUAS only the languages you want to have available,
not anything else. LINGUAS is not like USE, it doesn't know about
the minus sign, as you can see further down: it assumes that "-ab",
"-ace" and so on are languages:
> linguas_-ab linguas_-ace linguas_-ach linguas_-ada
> linguas_-aa linguas_-afh linguas_-af linguas_-aka
> linguas_-akk linguas_-sq linguas_-ale linguas_-am
Just put LINGUAS="fr en". I'm unsure whether en-us is recognized.
Benno
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* Re: [gentoo-user] emerge without download
2006-04-05 12:50 ` Benno Schulenberg
@ 2006-04-05 15:46 ` Matthias Bethke
2006-04-05 21:03 ` [gentoo-user] LINGUAS Benno Schulenberg
2006-04-06 14:15 ` [gentoo-user] emerge without download go moko
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From: Matthias Bethke @ 2006-04-05 15:46 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
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Hi Benno,
on Wednesday, 2006-04-05 at 14:50:29, you wrote:
> Just put LINGUAS="fr en". I'm unsure whether en-us is recognized.
The Localization Guide isn't very clear about the syntax of these, nor
how to get a list of available codes. I guess the basic ones are the
two-letter ISO codes as for locales, but is it "en-us", "en_US" or
something? Is it case sensitive at all?
cheers!
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* [gentoo-user] LINGUAS
2006-04-05 15:46 ` Matthias Bethke
@ 2006-04-05 21:03 ` Benno Schulenberg
2006-04-06 14:15 ` [gentoo-user] emerge without download go moko
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From: Benno Schulenberg @ 2006-04-05 21:03 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Matthias Bethke wrote:
> on Wednesday, 2006-04-05 at 14:50:29, you wrote:
> > Just put LINGUAS="fr en". I'm unsure whether en-us is
> > recognized.
>
> The Localization Guide isn't very clear about the syntax of
> these, nor how to get a list of available codes. I guess the
> basic ones are the two-letter ISO codes as for locales, but is it
> "en-us", "en_US" or something?
The latter. Grepping through the ebuilds for "LINGUAS" shows that
it checks in some places for codes like pt_BR and zh_CN. So the
original poster could use LINGUAS="fr en en_US".
Benno
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* Re: [gentoo-user] emerge without download
2006-04-05 15:46 ` Matthias Bethke
2006-04-05 21:03 ` [gentoo-user] LINGUAS Benno Schulenberg
@ 2006-04-06 14:15 ` go moko
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From: go moko @ 2006-04-06 14:15 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
--- Matthias Bethke <matthias@towiski.de> wrote:
> Hi Benno,
> on Wednesday, 2006-04-05 at 14:50:29, you wrote:
> > Just put LINGUAS="fr en". I'm unsure whether
> en-us is recognized.
>
> The Localization Guide isn't very clear about the
> syntax of these, nor
> how to get a list of available codes. I guess the
> basic ones are the
> two-letter ISO codes as for locales, but is it
> "en-us", "en_US" or
> something? Is it case sensitive at all?
>
> cheers!
> Matthias
Thanks for the explanation, Benno. I've never noticed
this output of 'emerge --info' about LINGUAS. And, as
said Matthias, I followed the Localization Guide as I
understood it. However, even it's false, it does no
harm.
Thanks again
G. Moko
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* Re: [gentoo-user] emerge without download
2006-04-05 11:48 ` go moko
2006-04-05 12:50 ` Benno Schulenberg
@ 2006-04-05 15:09 ` Neil Bothwick
2006-04-05 17:46 ` Richard Fish
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From: Neil Bothwick @ 2006-04-05 15:09 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
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On Wed, 5 Apr 2006 04:48:39 -0700 (PDT), go moko wrote:
> > ls -l /usr/portage/distfiles/libXext*
>
> -rw-rw-r-- 2 root portage 248688 Feb 16 19:34
> /usr/portage/distfiles/libXext-1.0.0.tar.bz2
It looks like this is the problem
$ ls -l /mnt/portage/distfiles/libXext*
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root portage 259489 2006-01-18 23:51
/mnt/portage/distfiles/libXext-1.0.0.tar.bz2
The filesize is different, so portage is trying to download it again.
Download the file again, put it in $DISTDIR and see what happens.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] emerge without download
2006-04-05 15:09 ` Neil Bothwick
@ 2006-04-05 17:46 ` Richard Fish
2006-04-06 14:12 ` go moko
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From: Richard Fish @ 2006-04-05 17:46 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On 4/5/06, Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Apr 2006 04:48:39 -0700 (PDT), go moko wrote:
>
> > > ls -l /usr/portage/distfiles/libXext*
> >
> > -rw-rw-r-- 2 root portage 248688 Feb 16 19:34
> > /usr/portage/distfiles/libXext-1.0.0.tar.bz2
>
> It looks like this is the problem
I agree, although quite oddly I have the same size file in my
distfiles directory. I guess I haven't needed to update libXext in
awhile.
But, from /usr/portage/x11-libs/libXext/files/digest-libXext-1.0.0-r1:
MD5 ee00e206adde27814b8832aa769f55ed libXext-1.0.0.tar.bz2 259489
And the current file on xorg.freedesktop.org is also 259489 bytes.
Download again.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] emerge without download
2006-04-05 17:46 ` Richard Fish
@ 2006-04-06 14:12 ` go moko
2006-04-06 14:33 ` Daniel da Veiga
2006-04-06 15:09 ` Richard Fish
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From: go moko @ 2006-04-06 14:12 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
--- Richard Fish <bigfish@asmallpond.org> wrote:
> On 4/5/06, Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote:
> > On Wed, 5 Apr 2006 04:48:39 -0700 (PDT), go moko
> wrote:
> >
> > > > ls -l /usr/portage/distfiles/libXext*
> > >
> > > -rw-rw-r-- 2 root portage 248688 Feb 16 19:34
> > > /usr/portage/distfiles/libXext-1.0.0.tar.bz2
> >
> > It looks like this is the problem
>
> I agree, although quite oddly I have the same size
> file in my
> distfiles directory. I guess I haven't needed to
> update libXext in
> awhile.
>
> But, from
>
/usr/portage/x11-libs/libXext/files/digest-libXext-1.0.0-r1:
> MD5 ee00e206adde27814b8832aa769f55ed
> libXext-1.0.0.tar.bz2 259489
>
> And the current file on xorg.freedesktop.org is also
> 259489 bytes.
>
> Download again.
>
> -Richard
You're right. It works fine.
But I remember that for another package (I don't
remember which) which file was also not good, emerge
give me a error message saying that MD5 was bad, and
didn't try to download it.
Moreover, why 'emerge <package> digest' try to
download the file instead of creating the
corresponding digest file?
So it works, but I still don't understand how emerge
deals it!
Thanks again
G. Moko
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* Re: [gentoo-user] emerge without download
2006-04-06 14:12 ` go moko
@ 2006-04-06 14:33 ` Daniel da Veiga
2006-04-06 15:09 ` Richard Fish
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From: Daniel da Veiga @ 2006-04-06 14:33 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On 4/6/06, go moko <gomoko@yahoo.com> wrote:
> --- Richard Fish <bigfish@asmallpond.org> wrote:
>
> > On 4/5/06, Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote:
> > > On Wed, 5 Apr 2006 04:48:39 -0700 (PDT), go moko
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > > ls -l /usr/portage/distfiles/libXext*
> > > >
> > > > -rw-rw-r-- 2 root portage 248688 Feb 16 19:34
> > > > /usr/portage/distfiles/libXext-1.0.0.tar.bz2
> > >
> > > It looks like this is the problem
> >
> > I agree, although quite oddly I have the same size
> > file in my
> > distfiles directory. I guess I haven't needed to
> > update libXext in
> > awhile.
> >
> > But, from
> >
> /usr/portage/x11-libs/libXext/files/digest-libXext-1.0.0-r1:
> > MD5 ee00e206adde27814b8832aa769f55ed
> > libXext-1.0.0.tar.bz2 259489
> >
> > And the current file on xorg.freedesktop.org is also
> > 259489 bytes.
> >
> > Download again.
> >
> > -Richard
>
> You're right. It works fine.
>
> But I remember that for another package (I don't
> remember which) which file was also not good, emerge
> give me a error message saying that MD5 was bad, and
> didn't try to download it.
> Moreover, why 'emerge <package> digest' try to
> download the file instead of creating the
> corresponding digest file?
> So it works, but I still don't understand how emerge
> deals it!
Because you're using the wrong command, what you want is "ebuild
<package>.ebuild digest", emerge will try to emerge the package you
specified. Take a look at "man emerge" and "man ebuild".
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* Re: [gentoo-user] emerge without download
2006-04-06 14:12 ` go moko
2006-04-06 14:33 ` Daniel da Veiga
@ 2006-04-06 15:09 ` Richard Fish
2006-04-06 15:34 ` Neil Bothwick
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From: Richard Fish @ 2006-04-06 15:09 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On 4/6/06, go moko <gomoko@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Moreover, why 'emerge <package> digest' try to
> download the file instead of creating the
> corresponding digest file?
The command you wanted was 'ebuild'...
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2006-04-06 15:09 ` Richard Fish
@ 2006-04-06 15:34 ` Neil Bothwick
2006-04-06 16:22 ` go moko
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From: Neil Bothwick @ 2006-04-06 15:34 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
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On Thu, 6 Apr 2006 08:09:55 -0700, Richard Fish wrote:
> > Moreover, why 'emerge <package> digest' try to
> > download the file instead of creating the
> > corresponding digest file?
>
> The command you wanted was 'ebuild'...
Or 'emerge --digest package' if you have a recent enough portage.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] emerge without download
2006-04-06 15:34 ` Neil Bothwick
@ 2006-04-06 16:22 ` go moko
2006-04-06 16:30 ` Hans-Werner Hilse
2006-04-06 16:49 ` Richard Fish
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From: go moko @ 2006-04-06 16:22 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
--- Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Apr 2006 08:09:55 -0700, Richard Fish
> wrote:
>
> > > Moreover, why 'emerge <package> digest' try to
> > > download the file instead of creating the
> > > corresponding digest file?
> >
> > The command you wanted was 'ebuild'...
>
> Or 'emerge --digest package' if you have a recent
> enough portage.
Yeah, excuse, it was 'ebuild <package> digest' which
try to download the file.
Just a typo...
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* Re: [gentoo-user] emerge without download
2006-04-06 16:22 ` go moko
@ 2006-04-06 16:30 ` Hans-Werner Hilse
2006-04-06 16:49 ` Richard Fish
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From: Hans-Werner Hilse @ 2006-04-06 16:30 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Hi,
On Thu, 6 Apr 2006 09:22:11 -0700 (PDT) go moko <gomoko@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> > > > Moreover, why 'emerge <package> digest' try to
> > > > download the file instead of creating the
> > > > corresponding digest file?
> > >
> > > The command you wanted was 'ebuild'...
> >
> > Or 'emerge --digest package' if you have a recent
> > enough portage.
>
> Yeah, excuse, it was 'ebuild <package> digest' which
> try to download the file.
> Just a typo...
Yep, it needs to download the sources in order to calculate the digest
for them, too. That's how portage checks for forged tarballs on the
mirrors.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] emerge without download
2006-04-06 16:22 ` go moko
2006-04-06 16:30 ` Hans-Werner Hilse
@ 2006-04-06 16:49 ` Richard Fish
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From: Richard Fish @ 2006-04-06 16:49 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On 4/6/06, go moko <gomoko@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Yeah, excuse, it was 'ebuild <package> digest' which
> try to download the file.
Ok, well I don't see how this could happen with libXext.
However with other packages this might occur if you don't have all of
the source archives downloaded. For example opera 8.52 ebuild calls
out the following source archives:
${PN}-${OPERAVER}.1-static-qt.i386-en.tar.bz2
${PN}-${OPERAVER}.5-shared-qt.i386-en.tar.bz2
${PN}-${OPERAVER}.1-static-qt.i386-en.tar.bz2
${PN}-${OPERAVER}.5-shared-qt.i386-en.tar.bz2
Which results in a digest like:
MD5 ... opera-8.52-20060201.1-static-qt.i386-en.tar.bz2 5812593
MD5 ... opera-8.52-20060201.1-static-qt.ppc-en.tar.bz2 5811355
MD5 ... opera-8.52-20060201.1-static-qt.sparc-en.tar.bz2 5705143
MD5 ... opera-8.52-20060201.5-shared-qt.i386-en.tar.bz2 3977438
If I run digest on this ebuild, without all 4 source archives, it will
attempt to download the missing ones.
HTH,
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* Re: [gentoo-user] emerge without download
2006-04-04 18:59 ` [gentoo-user] emerge without download go moko
2006-04-04 19:22 ` Devon Miller
@ 2006-04-05 2:53 ` Gabriel Dain
2006-04-05 8:24 ` Peter Campion-Bye
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From: Gabriel Dain @ 2006-04-05 2:53 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
> I download first all the files and put them in
> /usr/portage/distfiles. After that, I can make an
> "emerge <package>".
So you download them manually? If so, its better to use emerge -f
<package>. It automatically downloads the files and all dependencies
to /usr/portage/distfiles, and you can be 100% sure that when you
emerge them for good it will use those files.
Or, if you must download them manually, try using overlays, and ebuild
<package> digest so that portage knows to use THAT file and it doesnt
return md5 errors (size and so on, if Portage uses different tars)
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* Re: [gentoo-user] emerge without download
2006-04-05 2:53 ` Gabriel Dain
@ 2006-04-05 8:24 ` Peter Campion-Bye
2006-04-05 11:43 ` go moko
2006-04-06 14:22 ` go moko
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From: Peter Campion-Bye @ 2006-04-05 8:24 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
>> I download first all the files and put them in
>> /usr/portage/distfiles. After that, I can make an
>> "emerge <package>".
>
> So you download them manually? If so, its better to use emerge -f
> <package>. It automatically downloads the files and all dependencies
> to /usr/portage/distfiles, and you can be 100% sure that when you
> emerge them for good it will use those files.
> Or, if you must download them manually, try using overlays, and ebuild
> <package> digest so that portage knows to use THAT file and it doesnt
> return md5 errors (size and so on, if Portage uses different tars)
Or, as a workaround, you could set up http-replicator (there's a package for
it) and put your downloaded ebuilds into the replicator cache then change your
make.conf rsync settings to emerge from the replicator. The replicator log
will show you anything it thinks it needs to download that it can't serve from
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* Re: [gentoo-user] emerge without download
2006-04-05 8:24 ` Peter Campion-Bye
@ 2006-04-05 11:43 ` go moko
2006-04-05 14:27 ` Jeremy Olexa
2006-04-06 14:22 ` go moko
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From: go moko @ 2006-04-05 11:43 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
--- Peter Campion-Bye <peter@pandasys.co.uk> wrote:
> >> I download first all the files and put them in
> >> /usr/portage/distfiles. After that, I can make an
> >> "emerge <package>".
> >
> > So you download them manually? If so, its better
> to use emerge -f
> > <package>. It automatically downloads the files
> and all dependencies
> > to /usr/portage/distfiles, and you can be 100%
> sure that when you
> > emerge them for good it will use those files.
> > Or, if you must download them manually, try using
> overlays, and ebuild
> > <package> digest so that portage knows to use THAT
> file and it doesnt
> > return md5 errors (size and so on, if Portage uses
> different tars)
Even the ebuild <package> digest first try to download
the file, even if it's in the DISTDIR.
> Or, as a workaround, you could set up
> http-replicator (there's a package for
> it) and put your downloaded ebuilds into the
> replicator cache then change your
> make.conf rsync settings to emerge from the
> replicator. The replicator log
> will show you anything it thinks it needs to
> download that it can't serve from
> the cache.
I'll try it and let you know.
Thanks for the advice.
G. Moko
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2006-04-05 8:24 ` Peter Campion-Bye
2006-04-05 11:43 ` go moko
@ 2006-04-06 14:22 ` go moko
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From: go moko @ 2006-04-06 14:22 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
> Or, as a workaround, you could set up
> http-replicator (there's a package for
> it) and put your downloaded ebuilds into the
> replicator cache then change your
> make.conf rsync settings to emerge from the
> replicator. The replicator log
> will show you anything it thinks it needs to
> download that it can't serve from
> the cache.
I tried it, and yes, it works well.
As said in another mail, it shows me that the file was
corrupted. After another download, emerge works fine.
Thanks
G. Moko
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* Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS
[not found] <20060729145743.GA24325@brego.pewamo.office>
@ 2006-07-29 15:20 ` Alexander Skwar
2006-07-29 20:41 ` Michael George
2006-07-29 20:16 ` Richard Fish
2006-07-29 20:41 ` Benno Schulenberg
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From: Alexander Skwar @ 2006-07-29 15:20 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Michael George schrieb:
> I am building OOo 2.0.3 and I happened to notice in the verbose emerge
> output that there is a long list of languages listed in the LINGUAS
> variable:
>
> LINGUAS="-af% -ar% -be_BY% -bg% -bn% -bs% -ca% -cs% -cy% -da% -de% -el%
> -en% -en_GB% -en_US% -en_ZA% -es% -et% -fa% -fi% -fr% -gu_IN% -he%
> -hi_IN% -hr% -hu% -it% -ja% -km% -ko% -lt% -mk% -nb% -nl% -nn% -nr%
> -ns% -pa_IN% -pl% -pt% -pt_BR% -ru% -rw% -sh_YU% -sk% -sl% -sr_CS% -st%
> -sv% -sw_TZ% -th% -tn% -tr% -ts% -vi% -xh% -zh_CN% -zh_TW% -zu%"
>
> Does this mean that NONE of those languages will be built in or that ALL
> of them will be?
If all of them have a - before, then yes, none will be built.
> The docs I found on gentoo localization indicate that I can set LINGUAS
> in make.conf and build for just the languages I desire. I set it to:
> LINGUAS="en_US"
> but all that does is prepend en_US to the beginning of the string above.
How? What's shown?
> Where are those settings coming from?
make.conf
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2006-07-29 15:20 ` [gentoo-user] LINGUAS Alexander Skwar
@ 2006-07-29 20:41 ` Michael George
2006-07-29 21:08 ` Alexander Skwar
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From: Michael George @ 2006-07-29 20:41 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Sat, Jul 29, 2006 at 05:20:13PM +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote:
> Michael George schrieb:
> >I am building OOo 2.0.3 and I happened to notice in the verbose emerge
> >output that there is a long list of languages listed in the LINGUAS
> >variable:
> >
> > LINGUAS="-af% -ar% -be_BY% -bg% -bn% -bs% -ca% -cs% -cy% -da% -de% -el%
> > -en% -en_GB% -en_US% -en_ZA% -es% -et% -fa% -fi% -fr% -gu_IN% -he%
> > -hi_IN% -hr% -hu% -it% -ja% -km% -ko% -lt% -mk% -nb% -nl% -nn% -nr%
> > -ns% -pa_IN% -pl% -pt% -pt_BR% -ru% -rw% -sh_YU% -sk% -sl% -sr_CS% -st%
> > -sv% -sw_TZ% -th% -tn% -tr% -ts% -vi% -xh% -zh_CN% -zh_TW% -zu%"
> >
> >Does this mean that NONE of those languages will be built in or that ALL
> >of them will be?
>
> If all of them have a - before, then yes, none will be built.
Okay, that's what I figured it meant.
> >The docs I found on gentoo localization indicate that I can set LINGUAS
> >in make.conf and build for just the languages I desire. I set it to:
> >LINGUAS="en_US"
> >but all that does is prepend en_US to the beginning of the string above.
>
> How? What's shown?
If I put LINGUAS="en_US" into make.conf, then the LINGUAS line reads:
LINGUAS="en_US% -af% -ar% -be_BY% -bg% -bn% -bs% -ca% -cs% -cy% -da% -de%
-el% -en% -en_GB% -en_ZA% -es% -et% -fa% -fi% -fr% -gu_IN% -he%
-hi_IN% -hr% -hu% -it% -ja% -km% -ko% -lt% -mk% -nb% -nl% -nn% -nr%
-ns% -pa_IN% -pl% -pt% -pt_BR% -ru% -rw% -sh_YU% -sk% -sl% -sr_CS% -st%
-sv% -sw_TZ% -th% -tn% -tr% -ts% -vi% -xh% -zh_CN% -zh_TW% -zu%"
en_US is put on the front and -en_US disappears from the list. I didn't
notice it disappearing before...
> >Where are those settings coming from?
>
> make.conf
Any that I specify to be built are in make.conf, but there is nothing in
make.conf that specifies the "-" entries....
Thank you for your reply!
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* Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS
2006-07-29 20:41 ` Michael George
@ 2006-07-29 21:08 ` Alexander Skwar
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From: Alexander Skwar @ 2006-07-29 21:08 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Michael George schrieb:
> On Sat, Jul 29, 2006 at 05:20:13PM +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote:
>> Michael George schrieb:
>> >I am building OOo 2.0.3 and I happened to notice in the verbose emerge
>> >output that there is a long list of languages listed in the LINGUAS
>> >variable:
>> >
>> > LINGUAS="-af% -ar% -be_BY% -bg% -bn% -bs% -ca% -cs% -cy% -da% -de% -el%
>> > -en% -en_GB% -en_US% -en_ZA% -es% -et% -fa% -fi% -fr% -gu_IN% -he%
>> > -hi_IN% -hr% -hu% -it% -ja% -km% -ko% -lt% -mk% -nb% -nl% -nn% -nr%
>> > -ns% -pa_IN% -pl% -pt% -pt_BR% -ru% -rw% -sh_YU% -sk% -sl% -sr_CS% -st%
>> > -sv% -sw_TZ% -th% -tn% -tr% -ts% -vi% -xh% -zh_CN% -zh_TW% -zu%"
>> >
>> >Does this mean that NONE of those languages will be built in or that ALL
>> >of them will be?
>>
>> If all of them have a - before, then yes, none will be built.
>
> Okay, that's what I figured it meant.
>
>> >The docs I found on gentoo localization indicate that I can set LINGUAS
>> >in make.conf and build for just the languages I desire. I set it to:
>> >LINGUAS="en_US"
>> >but all that does is prepend en_US to the beginning of the string above.
>>
>> How? What's shown?
>
> If I put LINGUAS="en_US" into make.conf, then the LINGUAS line reads:
>
> LINGUAS="en_US% -af% -ar% -be_BY% -bg% -bn% -bs% -ca% -cs% -cy% -da% -de%
> -el% -en% -en_GB% -en_ZA% -es% -et% -fa% -fi% -fr% -gu_IN% -he%
> -hi_IN% -hr% -hu% -it% -ja% -km% -ko% -lt% -mk% -nb% -nl% -nn% -nr%
> -ns% -pa_IN% -pl% -pt% -pt_BR% -ru% -rw% -sh_YU% -sk% -sl% -sr_CS% -st%
> -sv% -sw_TZ% -th% -tn% -tr% -ts% -vi% -xh% -zh_CN% -zh_TW% -zu%"
>
> en_US is put on the front and -en_US disappears from the list.
See, it works just like a USE flag. Means: You now enabled the en_US linguas.
>> >Where are those settings coming from?
>>
>> make.conf
>
> Any that I specify to be built are in make.conf, but there is nothing in
> make.conf that specifies the "-" entries....
Of course not - just like there's (mostly) nothing in your make.conf
or package.use, which specifies "- USE flags".
Alexander Skwar
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* Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS
[not found] <20060729145743.GA24325@brego.pewamo.office>
2006-07-29 15:20 ` [gentoo-user] LINGUAS Alexander Skwar
@ 2006-07-29 20:16 ` Richard Fish
2006-08-01 16:01 ` Michael George
2006-07-29 20:41 ` Benno Schulenberg
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From: Richard Fish @ 2006-07-29 20:16 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On 7/29/06, Michael George <george@mutualdata.com> wrote:
> The docs I found on gentoo localization indicate that I can set LINGUAS
> in make.conf and build for just the languages I desire. I set it to:
> LINGUAS="en_US"
> but all that does is prepend en_US to the beginning of the string above.
Look closer; it should put "en_US" at the begining of the string, and
remove the "-en_US" from the middle. The normal configuration of
portage is to display set USE flags first, followed by the unset
flags, and each group is sorted alphabetically.
-Richard
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2006-07-29 20:16 ` Richard Fish
@ 2006-08-01 16:01 ` Michael George
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From: Michael George @ 2006-08-01 16:01 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On 7/29/06, Michael George <george@mutualdata.com> wrote:
>The docs I found on gentoo localization indicate that I can set LINGUAS
>in make.conf and build for just the languages I desire. I set it to:
>LINGUAS="en_US"
>but all that does is prepend en_US to the beginning of the string above.
Thanks to all who responded to my questions. I now have a better
understanding of this variable, USE flags, and emerge in general.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS
[not found] <20060729145743.GA24325@brego.pewamo.office>
2006-07-29 15:20 ` [gentoo-user] LINGUAS Alexander Skwar
2006-07-29 20:16 ` Richard Fish
@ 2006-07-29 20:41 ` Benno Schulenberg
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From: Benno Schulenberg @ 2006-07-29 20:41 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Michael George wrote:
> LINGUAS="-af% -ar% -be_BY% -bg% -bn% -bs% -ca% -cs% -cy% -da%
> -de% -el% -en% -en_GB% -en_US% -en_ZA% -es% -et% -fa% -fi% -fr%
> -gu_IN% -he% -hi_IN% -hr% -hu% -it% -ja% -km% -ko% -lt% -mk% -nb%
> -nl% -nn% -nr% -ns% -pa_IN% -pl% -pt% -pt_BR% -ru% -rw% -sh_YU%
> -sk% -sl% -sr_CS% -st% -sv% -sw_TZ% -th% -tn% -tr% -ts% -vi% -xh%
> -zh_CN% -zh_TW% -zu%"
>
> Does this mean that NONE of those languages will be built in or
> that ALL of them will be?
None, as they all start with a minus sign.
> I set it to: LINGUAS="en_US"
> but all that does is prepend en_US to the beginning of the string
> above.
Not quite: it also removes the -en_US. It makes no difference,
though, as the ebuild uses en_US by default when LINGUAS is empty.
> Where are those settings coming from?
>From the ebuild: it specifies that it can handle LANGS="af ar ...".
Benno
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* [gentoo-user] LINGUAS
@ 2010-08-18 21:25 Elmar Hinz
2010-08-18 21:39 ` Alan McKinnon
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From: Elmar Hinz @ 2010-08-18 21:25 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
The gentoo wiki suggests in different places to set the LINGUAS
environment variable in make.conf.
What has LINGUAS todo with make? I would expect it in rc.conf near the
UNICODE setting.
Al
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* Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS
2010-08-18 21:25 Elmar Hinz
@ 2010-08-18 21:39 ` Alan McKinnon
2010-08-19 11:48 ` Elmar Hinz
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From: Alan McKinnon @ 2010-08-18 21:39 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Apparently, though unproven, at 23:25 on Wednesday 18 August 2010, Elmar Hinz
did opine thusly:
> The gentoo wiki suggests in different places to set the LINGUAS
> environment variable in make.conf.
>
> What has LINGUAS todo with make? I would expect it in rc.conf near the
> UNICODE setting.
It has nothing to do with make. It has everything to do with portage.
--
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
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* Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS
2010-08-18 21:39 ` Alan McKinnon
@ 2010-08-19 11:48 ` Elmar Hinz
2010-08-19 11:56 ` Alan McKinnon
` (2 more replies)
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From: Elmar Hinz @ 2010-08-19 11:48 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
2010/8/18 Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>:
> Apparently, though unproven, at 23:25 on Wednesday 18 August 2010, Elmar Hinz
> did opine thusly:
>
>> The gentoo wiki suggests in different places to set the LINGUAS
>> environment variable in make.conf.
>>
>> What has LINGUAS todo with make? I would expect it in rc.conf near the
>> UNICODE setting.
>
>
> It has nothing to do with make. It has everything to do with portage.
>
Even than, LINGUAS has rather to do with OpenOffice.
Has it anything to do with portage at all?
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2010-08-19 11:48 ` Elmar Hinz
@ 2010-08-19 11:56 ` Alan McKinnon
2010-08-19 12:21 ` Nganon
2010-08-19 12:27 ` Graham Murray
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From: Alan McKinnon @ 2010-08-19 11:56 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user; +Cc: Elmar Hinz
Apparently, though unproven, at 13:48 on Thursday 19 August 2010, Elmar Hinz
did opine thusly:
> 2010/8/18 Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>:
> > Apparently, though unproven, at 23:25 on Wednesday 18 August 2010, Elmar
> > Hinz
> >
> > did opine thusly:
> >> The gentoo wiki suggests in different places to set the LINGUAS
> >> environment variable in make.conf.
> >>
> >> What has LINGUAS todo with make? I would expect it in rc.conf near the
> >> UNICODE setting.
> >
> > It has nothing to do with make. It has everything to do with portage.
>
> Even than, LINGUAS has rather to do with OpenOffice.
>
> Has it anything to do with portage at all?
It's in make.conf isn't it?
--
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
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* Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS
2010-08-19 11:48 ` Elmar Hinz
2010-08-19 11:56 ` Alan McKinnon
@ 2010-08-19 12:21 ` Nganon
2010-08-19 12:27 ` Graham Murray
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From: Nganon @ 2010-08-19 12:21 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
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On 19 August 2010 14:48, Elmar Hinz <oss.elmar@googlemail.com> wrote:
> 2010/8/18 Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>:
> > Apparently, though unproven, at 23:25 on Wednesday 18 August 2010, Elmar
> Hinz
> > did opine thusly:
> >
> >> The gentoo wiki suggests in different places to set the LINGUAS
> >> environment variable in make.conf.
> >>
> >> What has LINGUAS todo with make? I would expect it in rc.conf near the
> >> UNICODE setting.
> >
> >
> > It has nothing to do with make. It has everything to do with portage.
> >
>
> Even than, LINGUAS has rather to do with OpenOffice.
>
> Has it anything to do with portage at all?
>
>
It has something to with packages that has localization support,
thus everything to with portage.
Global linguas flags are set in make.conf as
LINGUAS="en de ru"
and application specific ones can be set in package.use as
www-client/firefox linguas_en_GB
app-office/openoffice-bin linguas_en_GB linguas_de
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* Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS
2010-08-19 11:48 ` Elmar Hinz
2010-08-19 11:56 ` Alan McKinnon
2010-08-19 12:21 ` Nganon
@ 2010-08-19 12:27 ` Graham Murray
2010-08-19 12:37 ` Florian CROUZAT
2010-08-19 12:57 ` Elmar Hinz
2 siblings, 2 replies; 51+ messages in thread
From: Graham Murray @ 2010-08-19 12:27 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Elmar Hinz <oss.elmar@googlemail.com> writes:
> 2010/8/18 Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>:
>> Apparently, though unproven, at 23:25 on Wednesday 18 August 2010, Elmar Hinz
>> did opine thusly:
>>
>>> The gentoo wiki suggests in different places to set the LINGUAS
>>> environment variable in make.conf.
>>>
>>> What has LINGUAS todo with make? I would expect it in rc.conf near the
>>> UNICODE setting.
>>
>>
>> It has nothing to do with make. It has everything to do with portage.
>>
>
> Even than, LINGUAS has rather to do with OpenOffice.
>
> Has it anything to do with portage at all?
Several packages, not just OpenOffice, can include/support different
languages. Portage uses the value of LINGUAS to tell these packages
which languages to include/support.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS
2010-08-19 12:27 ` Graham Murray
@ 2010-08-19 12:37 ` Florian CROUZAT
2010-08-19 13:21 ` Arttu V.
2010-08-19 14:17 ` Bill Longman
2010-08-19 12:57 ` Elmar Hinz
1 sibling, 2 replies; 51+ messages in thread
From: Florian CROUZAT @ 2010-08-19 12:37 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On 19 août 2010, at 14:27, Graham Murray wrote:
> Elmar Hinz <oss.elmar@googlemail.com> writes:
>
>> 2010/8/18 Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>:
>>> Apparently, though unproven, at 23:25 on Wednesday 18 August 2010, Elmar Hinz
>>> did opine thusly:
>>>
>>>> The gentoo wiki suggests in different places to set the LINGUAS
>>>> environment variable in make.conf.
>>>>
>>>> What has LINGUAS todo with make? I would expect it in rc.conf near the
>>>> UNICODE setting.
>>>
>>>
>>> It has nothing to do with make. It has everything to do with portage.
>>>
>>
>> Even than, LINGUAS has rather to do with OpenOffice.
>>
>> Has it anything to do with portage at all?
>
> Several packages, not just OpenOffice, can include/support different
> languages. Portage uses the value of LINGUAS to tell these packages
> which languages to include/support.
I have access to this box where linguas=fr is set.
Check this output:
$ type -a [
[ est une primitive du shell
[ est /usr/bin/[
[ is a shell built-in becomes "est une primitive du shell"
I can't see any use flags in coreutils/bash that informs me it will be emerged with the linguas support.
How do I know which package will be localized then ? Just curious, I don't tweak my linguas.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS
2010-08-19 12:37 ` Florian CROUZAT
@ 2010-08-19 13:21 ` Arttu V.
2010-08-19 14:17 ` Bill Longman
1 sibling, 0 replies; 51+ messages in thread
From: Arttu V. @ 2010-08-19 13:21 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On 8/19/10, Florian CROUZAT <gentoo@floriancrouzat.net> wrote:
>
> On 19 août 2010, at 14:27, Graham Murray wrote:
>
>> Several packages, not just OpenOffice, can include/support different
>> languages. Portage uses the value of LINGUAS to tell these packages
>> which languages to include/support.
>
> I have access to this box where linguas=fr is set.
> Check this output:
> $ type -a [
> [ est une primitive du shell
> [ est /usr/bin/[
>
> [ is a shell built-in becomes "est une primitive du shell"
> I can't see any use flags in coreutils/bash that informs me it will be
> emerged with the linguas support.
> How do I know which package will be localized then ? Just curious, I don't
> tweak my linguas.
Check for the tell-tale USE="nls" flag in the ebuilds.
Not all ebuild's bother listing explicitly out all of the LINGUAS
their sources actually support. coreutils is one of the lazy ones.
Just look at its sources: 39 different .po files, that's 39
localizations available. No point printing out such monstrous long
lists -- your localization is in there, period! ;) But coreutils does
obey LINGUAS anyway. It only installs what you have in your LINGUAS
(check, e.g., with equery files coreutils).
Openoffice is a special case (surprise!). Its ebuild depends
dynamically on spell-check packages depending on the value of LINGUAS
-- so the poor Gentoo OOo maintainers must list out every supported
lingua in the ebuild. :)
--
Arttu V. -- Running Gentoo is like running with scissors
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* Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS
2010-08-19 12:37 ` Florian CROUZAT
2010-08-19 13:21 ` Arttu V.
@ 2010-08-19 14:17 ` Bill Longman
1 sibling, 0 replies; 51+ messages in thread
From: Bill Longman @ 2010-08-19 14:17 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On 08/19/2010 05:37 AM, Florian CROUZAT wrote:
>
> On 19 août 2010, at 14:27, Graham Murray wrote:
>
>> Elmar Hinz <oss.elmar@googlemail.com> writes:
>>
>>> 2010/8/18 Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>:
>>>> Apparently, though unproven, at 23:25 on Wednesday 18 August 2010, Elmar Hinz
>>>> did opine thusly:
>>>>
>>>>> The gentoo wiki suggests in different places to set the LINGUAS
>>>>> environment variable in make.conf.
>>>>>
>>>>> What has LINGUAS todo with make? I would expect it in rc.conf near the
>>>>> UNICODE setting.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It has nothing to do with make. It has everything to do with portage.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Even than, LINGUAS has rather to do with OpenOffice.
>>>
>>> Has it anything to do with portage at all?
>>
>> Several packages, not just OpenOffice, can include/support different
>> languages. Portage uses the value of LINGUAS to tell these packages
>> which languages to include/support.
>
> I have access to this box where linguas=fr is set.
> Check this output:
> $ type -a [
> [ est une primitive du shell
> [ est /usr/bin/[
>
> [ is a shell built-in becomes "est une primitive du shell"
> I can't see any use flags in coreutils/bash that informs me it will be emerged with the linguas support.
> How do I know which package will be localized then ? Just curious, I don't tweak my linguas.
As others have said, it's the nls setting that does this. Specifically,
the string "est une primitive du shell" is part of the i18n that's in
the bash binary. When you set LANG or LC_MESSAGES to something
different, i.e., el_GR, you'll get the Greek translation. The man page
for locale has lots of info about this.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS
2010-08-19 12:27 ` Graham Murray
2010-08-19 12:37 ` Florian CROUZAT
@ 2010-08-19 12:57 ` Elmar Hinz
2010-08-19 13:13 ` Arttu V.
2010-08-19 13:33 ` Andrea Conti
1 sibling, 2 replies; 51+ messages in thread
From: Elmar Hinz @ 2010-08-19 12:57 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
>> Even than, LINGUAS has rather to do with OpenOffice.
>>
>> Has it anything to do with portage at all?
>
> Several packages, not just OpenOffice, can include/support different
> languages. Portage uses the value of LINGUAS to tell these packages
> which languages to include/support.
>
When Portage evaluates this variable it makes some sense.
On the other hand LINGUAS is still a general variable AFAIK and not
portage specific.
So shouldn't it be set in a general location like time and locales?
Al
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* Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS
2010-08-19 12:57 ` Elmar Hinz
@ 2010-08-19 13:13 ` Arttu V.
2010-08-19 13:38 ` Elmar Hinz
2010-08-19 13:33 ` Andrea Conti
1 sibling, 1 reply; 51+ messages in thread
From: Arttu V. @ 2010-08-19 13:13 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On 8/19/10, Elmar Hinz <oss.elmar@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>> Even than, LINGUAS has rather to do with OpenOffice.
>>>
>>> Has it anything to do with portage at all?
>>
>> Several packages, not just OpenOffice, can include/support different
>> languages. Portage uses the value of LINGUAS to tell these packages
>> which languages to include/support.
>>
>
> When Portage evaluates this variable it makes some sense.
>
> On the other hand LINGUAS is still a general variable AFAIK and not
> portage specific.
>
> So shouldn't it be set in a general location like time and locales?
No, I think you're mixing up compile-time and run-time values -- and
also reading too much into the file names. "make.conf" should really
rather be called "portage.conf". That would make much more sense IMHO.
:)
--
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* Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS
2010-08-19 13:13 ` Arttu V.
@ 2010-08-19 13:38 ` Elmar Hinz
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From: Elmar Hinz @ 2010-08-19 13:38 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
>
> No, I think you're mixing up compile-time and run-time values -- and
> also reading too much into the file names. "make.conf" should really
> rather be called "portage.conf". That would make much more sense IMHO.
> :)
>
As long as the source is the documentation, it should be possible by
concept to read in filenames.
I think you are right, that portage.conf would be the natural name.
Al
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* Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS
2010-08-19 12:57 ` Elmar Hinz
2010-08-19 13:13 ` Arttu V.
@ 2010-08-19 13:33 ` Andrea Conti
2010-08-19 13:53 ` Elmar Hinz
2010-08-19 19:45 ` Mike Edenfield
1 sibling, 2 replies; 51+ messages in thread
From: Andrea Conti @ 2010-08-19 13:33 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
> On the other hand LINGUAS is still a general variable AFAIK and not
> portage specific.
LINGUAS is strictly portage-specific. It's used to control the
compile-time inclusion of languages and/or locales for packages which
have that kind of option (i.e. OpenOffice, KDE, Firefox and many
others); as such it is generally set in make.conf, although it can be
controlled on a per-package basis as others have said.
On the other hand, things like bash and coreutils usually have a "nls"
USE flag which controls the compile-time inclusion of *all* supported
localizations.
Packages built with support for multiple locales will usually pick the
right one at run-time by looking at the LANG and LC_* environment variables.
(See http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/guide-localization.xml#doc_chap3 for
more details)
andrea
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* Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS
2010-08-19 13:33 ` Andrea Conti
@ 2010-08-19 13:53 ` Elmar Hinz
2010-08-19 14:26 ` Bill Longman
2010-08-19 19:48 ` Mike Edenfield
2010-08-19 19:45 ` Mike Edenfield
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From: Elmar Hinz @ 2010-08-19 13:53 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
2010/8/19 Andrea Conti <alyf@alyf.net>:
>> On the other hand LINGUAS is still a general variable AFAIK and not
>> portage specific.
>
> LINGUAS is strictly portage-specific.
Really?
Researching the web I understand it origins from gettext and portage
has implemented it. If I understand right, it would still matter if
you compile something without portage.
But is the following generalization correct?
* LINGUAS is the compile time setting (for multiple languages)
* LANG is the runtime setting (for the current language).
Al
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* Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS
2010-08-19 13:53 ` Elmar Hinz
@ 2010-08-19 14:26 ` Bill Longman
2010-08-19 19:48 ` Mike Edenfield
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From: Bill Longman @ 2010-08-19 14:26 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On 08/19/2010 06:53 AM, Elmar Hinz wrote:
> 2010/8/19 Andrea Conti <alyf@alyf.net>:
>>> On the other hand LINGUAS is still a general variable AFAIK and not
>>> portage specific.
>>
>> LINGUAS is strictly portage-specific.
>
> Really?
>
> Researching the web I understand it origins from gettext and portage
> has implemented it. If I understand right, it would still matter if
> you compile something without portage.
>
> But is the following generalization correct?
>
> * LINGUAS is the compile time setting (for multiple languages)
> * LANG is the runtime setting (for the current language).
Yeah, but with the caveat that LANG is the generalization for all the
LC_* variables.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS
2010-08-19 13:53 ` Elmar Hinz
2010-08-19 14:26 ` Bill Longman
@ 2010-08-19 19:48 ` Mike Edenfield
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From: Mike Edenfield @ 2010-08-19 19:48 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On 8/19/2010 9:53 AM, Elmar Hinz wrote:
> But is the following generalization correct?
>
> * LINGUAS is the compile time setting (for multiple languages)
> * LANG is the runtime setting (for the current language).
Yes, as long as you're aware that LINGUAS support is recommended, but
optional. A package that simply installs every .po file it has will
still operate in the correct locale based on your LANG setting, it will
just waste a lot of space.
--Mike
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* Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS
2010-08-19 13:33 ` Andrea Conti
2010-08-19 13:53 ` Elmar Hinz
@ 2010-08-19 19:45 ` Mike Edenfield
2010-08-20 6:18 ` Andrea Conti
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From: Mike Edenfield @ 2010-08-19 19:45 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user; +Cc: Andrea Conti
On 8/19/2010 9:33 AM, Andrea Conti wrote:
>> On the other hand LINGUAS is still a general variable AFAIK and not
>> portage specific.
>
> LINGUAS is strictly portage-specific. It's used to control the
> compile-time inclusion of languages and/or locales for packages which
> have that kind of option (i.e. OpenOffice, KDE, Firefox and many
> others); as such it is generally set in make.conf, although it can be
> controlled on a per-package basis as others have said.
It's more accurate to say LINGUAS is "build-time specific". Portage is
not the only build process/package manager/configuration system/coffee
maker that knows what LINGUAS means. It's the "official" (as far as
there is such a thing) place to store the list of gettext translations
you want on your system, and most autotools-based builds and binary
package managers also recognize it.
--Mike
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