[gentoo-user] Mounting USB Flash Drive

[gentoo-user] Mounting USB Flash Drive

[Lord Sauron]

Hi - again.

You are totally free to get tired of me and completely ignore me. 
Please, just make sure that you all don't do it all at the same time ;
)

Anyways, I've been working to try and mount my USB Flash disk so that
I can use the stuff I backed up from my old Kubuntu install.  However,
/dev/sda1 isn't in /etc/fstab, though usbfs is in /etc/mtab.

> Sort of a side thing...  what's the difference between fstab and mtab?

Well, I've narrowed it down to at least one thing: I don't have a
mount point for my poor USB Disk.  I looked through *all* the 1,400
some-odd lines in the mount command's man page, however, I got no
clues, not even a related command.  I also # ls /bin to see if there
was anything there...  I didn't see anything that made sense to me.

I've only ever mounted stuff using the graphical tool that Kubuntu
supplied, so that's where my ignorance comes from.

Thanks for your help!'

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Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting USB Flash Drive

[Teresa and Dale]

Lord Sauron wrote:

>>Sort of a side thing...  what's the difference between fstab and mtab?
>>    
>>
>
>
>
>Thanks for your help!'
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>  
>

The file fstab is what you edit.  The file mtab is what the system uses
to keep up with what is where and you should NOT edit it.

No clue on the USB thing but I dread the day I have to start.

Hope that helps.

Dale
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Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting USB Flash Drive

[b.n.]

> Anyways, I've been working to try and mount my USB Flash disk so that
> I can use the stuff I backed up from my old Kubuntu install.  However,
> /dev/sda1 isn't in /etc/fstab, though usbfs is in /etc/mtab.
 >
> Well, I've narrowed it down to at least one thing: I don't have a
> mount point for my poor USB Disk.  

If you have and /etc/fstab, and you already know your usb flash disk is 
/dev/sda1, well, just add the right fstab entry.
Mine looks this way:

/dev/sda1      /mnt/removable      vfat      noauto,async,user,exec 0 0

 > I looked through *all* the 1,400
> some-odd lines in the mount command's man page, however, I got no
> clues, not even a related command.  I also # ls /bin to see if there
> was anything there...  I didn't see anything that made sense to me.

your effort is nice, but have you thought about Google or another search 
engine?

> I've only ever mounted stuff using the graphical tool that Kubuntu
> supplied, so that's where my ignorance comes from.

I think you refer to the 
"hey-my-usb-disk-appears-magically-on-my-desktop!" trick. I guess it's 
managed by HAL, you can have it on Gentoo too (don't ask me for info, 
since I don't use it)

m.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting USB Flash Drive

[Lord Sauron]

On 3/31/06, b.n. <brullonulla@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Anyways, I've been working to try and mount my USB Flash disk so that
> > I can use the stuff I backed up from my old Kubuntu install.  However,
> > /dev/sda1 isn't in /etc/fstab, though usbfs is in /etc/mtab.
>  >
> > Well, I've narrowed it down to at least one thing: I don't have a
> > mount point for my poor USB Disk.
>
> If you have and /etc/fstab, and you already know your usb flash disk is
> /dev/sda1, well, just add the right fstab entry.
> Mine looks this way:

I can just nano /etc/fstab and add /dev/sda1?  I thought fstab was
generated by the machine or something, and that it isn't a terribly
good idea to edit it.

I'll try that now.

> /dev/sda1      /mnt/removable      vfat      noauto,async,user,exec 0 0

I don't have a /mnt directory.  Should I just create one?

>  > I looked through *all* the 1,400
> > some-odd lines in the mount command's man page, however, I got no
> > clues, not even a related command.  I also # ls /bin to see if there
> > was anything there...  I didn't see anything that made sense to me.
>
> your effort is nice, but have you thought about Google or another search
> engine?

Not until line 1,200... oh, and I wasn't connected at the time, so... 
I hope you understand : )

> > I've only ever mounted stuff using the graphical tool that Kubuntu
> > supplied, so that's where my ignorance comes from.
>
> I think you refer to the
> "hey-my-usb-disk-appears-magically-on-my-desktop!" trick. I guess it's
> managed by HAL, you can have it on Gentoo too (don't ask me for info,
> since I don't use it)

No, I had to manually create a mount point via the GUI and then enable
the thing and all this stuff.  Then KDE just looked at /media and
slapped that on my desktop.  I mounted my windows partition (back when
I had one) on /media so that I could have that on my desktop too.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting USB Flash Drive

[b.n.]

> I can just nano /etc/fstab and add /dev/sda1?  

Not only you can: you actually have to! :)
Check the Gentoo handbook for details. When I did install Gentoo (in 
december 2004), I had to write *all* my fstab by hand, I don't know if 
now it's different.

> I thought fstab was
> generated by the machine or something, and that it isn't a terribly
> good idea to edit it.

A fstab file is ususally generated by the operating system installer, 
but, being it a plain text configuration file, it is thought to be 
editable by root. It has a pretty straightforward syntaxis.

The machine-generated thing you shouldn't touch, instead, is /etc/mtab. 
This one contains the *current* state of mounted devices.

> I don't have a /mnt directory.  Should I just create one?

Well, you have to create an empty directory to use as a mountpoint. I 
create them inside a /mnt directory, but that's just "historical habit". 
Many distro I see around now use /media as a root directory for 
removable media mountpoints. Nothing stops you from using 
/home/sauron/whatever, although I feel symlinks are a cleaner way to 
access mount points from your home...

> No, I had to manually create a mount point via the GUI and then enable
> the thing and all this stuff.  Then KDE just looked at /media and
> slapped that on my desktop.  I mounted my windows partition (back when
> I had one) on /media so that I could have that on my desktop too.

That's the same of writing on the fstab, but managed by a gui instead of 
done by hand (editing fstab is really easy once you manage the logic of it).

m.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting USB Flash Drive

[Lord Sauron]

On 3/31/06, b.n. <brullonulla@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I can just nano /etc/fstab and add /dev/sda1?
>
> Not only you can: you actually have to! :)
> Check the Gentoo handbook for details. When I did install Gentoo (in
> december 2004), I had to write *all* my fstab by hand, I don't know if
> now it's different.

Well, the automated installer did most of it for me, so I never got
the exposure to it.

> > I thought fstab was
> > generated by the machine or something, and that it isn't a terribly
> > good idea to edit it.
>
> A fstab file is ususally generated by the operating system installer,
> but, being it a plain text configuration file, it is thought to be
> editable by root. It has a pretty straightforward syntaxis.

Yeah, didn't take too long for me to figure out how to word what I
wanted.  Only a few tries and one reboot (don't ask).

> The machine-generated thing you shouldn't touch, instead, is /etc/mtab.
> This one contains the *current* state of mounted devices.

Okay.  That makes sense.

> > I don't have a /mnt directory.  Should I just create one?
>
> Well, you have to create an empty directory to use as a mountpoint. I
> create them inside a /mnt directory, but that's just "historical habit".
> Many distro I see around now use /media as a root directory for
> removable media mountpoints. Nothing stops you from using
> /home/sauron/whatever, although I feel symlinks are a cleaner way to
> access mount points from your home...

I made /mnt/sda1, 'cuz that's what I used about 4 years ago on a Red
Hat Linux box.  It was really messing me up with all this /media stuff
when I used Kubuntu.

> > No, I had to manually create a mount point via the GUI and then enable
> > the thing and all this stuff.  Then KDE just looked at /media and
> > slapped that on my desktop.  I mounted my windows partition (back when
> > I had one) on /media so that I could have that on my desktop too.
>
> That's the same of writing on the fstab, but managed by a gui instead of
> done by hand (editing fstab is really easy once you manage the logic of it).

Yeah, I can now see what the GUI did.  From my experience with Qt I
can safely say it was harder to make the GUI than to do it by hand.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting USB Flash Drive

[Mait]

basic method :
$ mount [-t fstype...] [-o options...] /dev/sda1 /mountpoint
$ ls /mountpoint

convenient way :
add entry in /etc/fstab,
/dev/sda1    /mountpoint    fstype...    options....

then, you can mount this way
$ mount /dev/sda1
or,
$ mount /mountpoint

more convenient, modern way :
udev, hotplug, hald, dbus, gnome-volume-manager(or similiar thing in KDE) ...

just plug in USB drive, and that will appear in your
desktop(background, places menu, file-manager...)

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/udev-guide.xml
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Customizing_UDEV#Terminology
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_gnome-volume-manager
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_D-BUS%2C_HAL%2C_KDE_media:/

Hey! don,t hurry relax ~ : )

It's also useful in traditional way
$ man mount
$ man fstab

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2006/4/1, Lord Sauron <lordsauronthegreat@gmail.com>:
> On 3/31/06, b.n. <brullonulla@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I can just nano /etc/fstab and add /dev/sda1?
> >
> > Not only you can: you actually have to! :)
> > Check the Gentoo handbook for details. When I did install Gentoo (in
> > december 2004), I had to write *all* my fstab by hand, I don't know if
> > now it's different.
>
> Well, the automated installer did most of it for me, so I never got
> the exposure to it.
>
> > > I thought fstab was
> > > generated by the machine or something, and that it isn't a terribly
> > > good idea to edit it.
> >
> > A fstab file is ususally generated by the operating system installer,
> > but, being it a plain text configuration file, it is thought to be
> > editable by root. It has a pretty straightforward syntaxis.
>
> Yeah, didn't take too long for me to figure out how to word what I
> wanted.  Only a few tries and one reboot (don't ask).
>
> > The machine-generated thing you shouldn't touch, instead, is /etc/mtab.
> > This one contains the *current* state of mounted devices.
>
> Okay.  That makes sense.
>
> > > I don't have a /mnt directory.  Should I just create one?
> >
> > Well, you have to create an empty directory to use as a mountpoint. I
> > create them inside a /mnt directory, but that's just "historical habit".
> > Many distro I see around now use /media as a root directory for
> > removable media mountpoints. Nothing stops you from using
> > /home/sauron/whatever, although I feel symlinks are a cleaner way to
> > access mount points from your home...
>
> I made /mnt/sda1, 'cuz that's what I used about 4 years ago on a Red
> Hat Linux box.  It was really messing me up with all this /media stuff
> when I used Kubuntu.
>
> > > No, I had to manually create a mount point via the GUI and then enable
> > > the thing and all this stuff.  Then KDE just looked at /media and
> > > slapped that on my desktop.  I mounted my windows partition (back when
> > > I had one) on /media so that I could have that on my desktop too.
> >
> > That's the same of writing on the fstab, but managed by a gui instead of
> > done by hand (editing fstab is really easy once you manage the logic of it).
>
> Yeah, I can now see what the GUI did.  From my experience with Qt I
> can safely say it was harder to make the GUI than to do it by hand.
>
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Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting USB Flash Drive

[Lord Sauron]

On 3/31/06, Mait <mattengi@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey! don,t hurry relax ~ : )

Relax?  Sounds like something that unemployed people do : \

> It's also useful in traditional way
> $ man mount
> $ man fstab

Wow... I didn't know that man had a fstab entry.  I thought it was
only for commands and stuff...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting USB Flash Drive

[Walter Dnes]

On Fri, Mar 31, 2006 at 08:07:16PM -0800, Lord Sauron wrote

> > $ man mount
> > $ man fstab
> 
> Wow... I didn't know that man had a fstab entry.  I thought it was
> only for commands and stuff...

  There are man pages for just about every file in the /etc directory.
For optional packages, you do need to have the package installed to get
the manpage.

  Another cute trick if you've got something plugged in, but don't know
which device it's listed as; as root, execute the command...

fdisk -l

  The "l" (for "list") option lists all connected block devices, even it
they aren't mounted.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting USB Flash Drive

[Lord Sauron]

On 3/31/06, Walter Dnes <waltdnes@waltdnes.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 31, 2006 at 08:07:16PM -0800, Lord Sauron wrote
>
> > > $ man mount
> > > $ man fstab
> >
> > Wow... I didn't know that man had a fstab entry.  I thought it was
> > only for commands and stuff...
>
>   There are man pages for just about every file in the /etc directory.
> For optional packages, you do need to have the package installed to get
> the manpage.

Neat.

>   Another cute trick if you've got something plugged in, but don't know
> which device it's listed as; as root, execute the command...
>
> fdisk -l
>
>   The "l" (for "list") option lists all connected block devices, even it
> they aren't mounted.

Neater.  It's a wonder no one makes on great big document about all
this...  to me it looks like its spread all over the internet in ways
that makes it hard to find...

At least, I don't know about the great big authoritative document of
documentation...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting USB Flash Drive

[Mait]

2006/4/1, Lord Sauron <lordsauronthegreat@gmail.com>:
> On 3/31/06, Mait <mattengi@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hey! don,t hurry relax ~ : )
>
> Relax?  Sounds like something that unemployed people do : \

Sorry for my poor english : )
It means "sorry, too many docs to read"

oh.. english drive me crazy

> > It's also useful in traditional way
> > $ man mount
> > $ man fstab
>
> Wow... I didn't know that man had a fstab entry.  I thought it was
> only for commands and stuff...
>
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[gentoo-user] Re: Mounting USB Flash Drive

[Lord Sauron]

On 4/1/06, Mait <mattengi@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2006/4/1, Lord Sauron <lordsauronthegreat@gmail.com>:
> > On 3/31/06, Mait <mattengi@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hey! don,t hurry relax ~ : )
> >
> > Relax?  Sounds like something that unemployed people do : \
>
> Sorry for my poor english : )
> It means "sorry, too many docs to read"

Yeah...  I end up bookmarking most of 'em and then never reading 'em
anyways...  I admit to being a bad person.

> oh.. english drive me crazy

Not a long trip, eh?  ; )

English is one of the most un-intuitive languages there is, with
possible exception to Spanish...  Yeah, Latin is probably the source
of all linguistic evil.  Anglo-Saxon/West Germanic was just fine until
those darn Roman pinheads came along... ~>:(

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Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting USB Flash Drive

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Sat, 01 Apr 2006 03:09:07 +0000, b.n. wrote:

> > I can just nano /etc/fstab and add /dev/sda1?  
> 
> Not only you can: you actually have to! :)

No you don't. The automounters in KDE and GNOME don't want fstab entries
for the devices.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting USB Flash Drive

[b.n.]

Neil Bothwick wrote:
> No you don't. The automounters in KDE and GNOME don't want fstab entries
> for the devices.

Not using automounters, I'm quite puzzled.
Do they build a temporary mount point or what? What if I *want* them to 
use a mount point I decide?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting USB Flash Drive

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Mon, 03 Apr 2006 20:15:31 +0000, b.n. wrote:

> > No you don't. The automounters in KDE and GNOME don't want fstab
> > entries for the devices.
> 
> Not using automounters, I'm quite puzzled.
> Do they build a temporary mount point or what? What if I *want* them to 
> use a mount point I decide?

They mount on /media/devicename. If you want to override this, you
can create an entry in fstab, but this is definitely not compulsory. A
better way to change the mount name (IMO) is to use a udev rule to change
the device name. All my removable devices mount with meaningful
names. /media/cf, media/sd, /media/camera etc.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting USB Flash Drive

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 16:42:30 -0800, Lord Sauron wrote:

> No, I had to manually create a mount point via the GUI and then enable
> the thing and all this stuff.  Then KDE just looked at /media and
> slapped that on my desktop.  I mounted my windows partition (back when
> I had one) on /media so that I could have that on my desktop too.

As long as you had the hal USE flag set when you emerged KDE, it should
detect the device and offer to mount it for you (KDE 3.5 has an option to
mount it automatically). You may need to fiddle with the settings in the
Storage Media section of the Control Centre.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting USB Flash Drive

[Richard Fish]

On 4/3/06, Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote:
> As long as you had the hal USE flag set when you emerged KDE, it should
> detect the device and offer to mount it for you (KDE 3.5 has an option to
> mount it automatically). You may need to fiddle with the settings in the
> Storage Media section of the Control Centre.

And your user needs to be a member of the group 'plugdev'...

-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting USB Flash Drive

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Mon, 3 Apr 2006 17:33:55 -0700, Richard Fish wrote:

> > As long as you had the hal USE flag set when you emerged KDE, it
> > should detect the device and offer to mount it for you (KDE 3.5 has
> > an option to mount it automatically). You may need to fiddle with the
> > settings in the Storage Media section of the Control Centre.
> 
> And your user needs to be a member of the group 'plugdev'...

Ah, yes. I forgot about that. Good catch!


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Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting USB Flash Drive

[maxim wexler]

Don't know if it relates to your case but I had a
similar problem until I realized the device was
formatted FAT16. Once I added proper support to my
kernel config it was smooth sailing.

--- Lord Sauron <lordsauronthegreat@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi - again.
> 
> You are totally free to get tired of me and
> completely ignore me. 
> Please, just make sure that you all don't do it all
> at the same time ;
> )
> 
> Anyways, I've been working to try and mount my USB
> Flash disk so that
> I can use the stuff I backed up from my old Kubuntu
> install.  However,
> /dev/sda1 isn't in /etc/fstab, though usbfs is in
> /etc/mtab.
> 
> > Sort of a side thing...  what's the difference
> between fstab and mtab?
> 
> Well, I've narrowed it down to at least one thing: I
> don't have a
> mount point for my poor USB Disk.  I looked through
> *all* the 1,400
> some-odd lines in the mount command's man page,
> however, I got no
> clues, not even a related command.  I also # ls /bin
> to see if there
> was anything there...  I didn't see anything that
> made sense to me.
> 
> I've only ever mounted stuff using the graphical
> tool that Kubuntu
> supplied, so that's where my ignorance comes from.
> 
> Thanks for your help!'
> 
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[gentoo-user] Re: Mounting USB Flash Drive

[Lord Sauron]

On 4/1/06, maxim wexler <blissfix@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Don't know if it relates to your case but I had a
> similar problem until I realized the device was
> formatted FAT16. Once I added proper support to my
> kernel config it was smooth sailing.

No, mine's a vfat.  Here's a sample of what my /etc/fstab reads now:

localhost bin # cat /etc/fstab
/dev/hda1        /boot           ext2             defaults            
             1 2
/dev/hda2        none            swap            sw                   
             0 0
/dev/hda3        /                   ext3             defaults        
                0 1
none                /proc            proc             defaults        
                0 0
none                /dev/shm      tmpfs          defaults             
            0 0
/dev/sda1        /mnt/sda1     vfat             noauto,async,user,exec  0 0

(note: I edited the output to get it to line up - before hand it was
rather ugly.  Yeah, that slow of a Saturday...)

If I ever meet the guy who made the cat command, I'm gonna kiss him. 
If I ever find the guy who made the less command, I'll do the same. 
One of my new favourite toys is cat <file> | less.  You've probably
noticed I use it a lot.  I only discovered it about 2 weeks ago, so
there comes my excitement.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Mounting USB Flash Drive

[Jeremy Olexa]

Lord Sauron wrote:
> If I ever meet the guy who made the cat command, I'm gonna kiss him. 
> If I ever find the guy who made the less command, I'll do the same. 
> One of my new favourite toys is cat <file> | less.  You've probably

Ha. You can achieve the same by running `less <file>` same with grep. ;)

I assume the problem regarding mounting usb drives has been solved?

-Jeremy


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Mounting USB Flash Drive

[Lord Sauron]

On 4/1/06, Jeremy Olexa <olex.mail.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
> Lord Sauron wrote:
> > If I ever meet the guy who made the cat command, I'm gonna kiss him.
> > If I ever find the guy who made the less command, I'll do the same.
> > One of my new favourite toys is cat <file> | less.  You've probably
>
> Ha. You can achieve the same by running `less <file>` same with grep. ;)

Didn't know that, either.  bash is so darn cool...  makes DOS look so
bad.  Amazing people could use DOS.

> I assume the problem regarding mounting usb drives has been solved?

Yes, it has.  I'm very happy about it.  In celebration I made KDE look
exactly like Windows 95 to tick off all the windoze zombies I know. 
They're still not happy about KIOSlaves, and whenever I change a theme
or behaviour it deepens the wound in their misplaced pride : )

Now I can get down and dirty with Apache2 and PHP so I can build my
big product.  I would tell, but it's confidential - Firestorm
Development Group International only.  I can say that it will be
Gentoo based, and totally open-source.  It's just closed-source during
the development phase to maintain an element of surprise on the
unsuspecting win32 syncophants.  Consider this your warning: my next
string of problems will be related to Apache2, PHP, php_mhash and
php_mcrypt, MySQL, and such things.

In the mean time, since I'm not brave enough to open a whole new
thread for something as trivial as this...

OpenOffice just released OpenOffice.org v2.0.2  Is this already in the
software listings, or is it confined to ~x86, and people like me using
-x86 can't get it yet?  I would change, but I'm not sure what to
expect with ~x86.

BTW: Thanks for your help!  I am taking in as much of this info as I
can* - don't expect to see the same question twice from me.

[*] I do have limits.  Most people tell me they're higher than your
average Joe, but I do have limits.

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