* [gentoo-user] In search of two applikations
@ 2006-03-26 5:32 Meino Christian Cramer
2006-03-26 7:57 ` Christoph Eckert
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From: Meino Christian Cramer @ 2006-03-26 5:32 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Hi,
I am looking for two applikations...may be one could point me to the
right ones ?
First one:
What dvb-t TV-watching applikation is a good one ? My dvb-t card is
recognized by lspci like that:
00:0b.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture (rev 11)
00:0b.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio Capture (rev 11)
I tried xmltv just to scan the channels with a vanilla Linux kernel
2.6.16, but xmltv seems not to understand my card (or vice
versa)...or the version of the portage tree is outdated ? Dont know...
Second one:
Is there any backup tool, which simply copies the contents of one
partition, which is larger than one DVD, to DVDs "as plain as
possible" -- means copies the contents that way, that I simply can
mount DVD #n and can easily read and copy the contents?
Thank you very much for any helpful reply in advance !
Have a nice Sunday (and a much better wether than here in
Germany.... :O)
mcc
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* Re: [gentoo-user] In search of two applikations
2006-03-26 5:32 [gentoo-user] In search of two applikations Meino Christian Cramer
@ 2006-03-26 7:57 ` Christoph Eckert
2006-03-26 8:48 ` Neil Bothwick
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From: Christoph Eckert @ 2006-03-26 7:57 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
> Is there any backup tool, which simply copies the contents of one
> partition, which is larger than one DVD, to DVDs "as plain as
> possible" -- means copies the contents that way, that I simply can
> mount DVD #n and can easily read and copy the contents?
dar.sf.net.
Best regards
ce
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* Re: [gentoo-user] In search of two applikations
2006-03-26 5:32 [gentoo-user] In search of two applikations Meino Christian Cramer
2006-03-26 7:57 ` Christoph Eckert
@ 2006-03-26 8:48 ` Neil Bothwick
2006-03-26 9:31 ` [gentoo-user] " Remy Blank
2006-03-26 22:13 ` [gentoo-user] " maxim wexler
2006-03-27 0:26 ` Nick Rout
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From: Neil Bothwick @ 2006-03-26 8:48 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
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On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 07:32:45 +0200 (CEST), Meino Christian Cramer wrote:
> Second one:
> Is there any backup tool, which simply copies the contents of one
> partition, which is larger than one DVD, to DVDs "as plain as
> possible" -- means copies the contents that way, that I simply can
> mount DVD #n and can easily read and copy the contents?
Search the list archives, this came up very recently. i think the program
recommended was scdbackup.
Note that backing up to DVD/CD file by file will destroy file
permissions. I prefer to use squashfs to create a compressed copy of the
filesystem and copy that to DVD. then I can mount it and copy files back
without losing permissions.
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* [gentoo-user] Re: In search of two applikations
2006-03-26 8:48 ` Neil Bothwick
@ 2006-03-26 9:31 ` Remy Blank
2006-03-26 12:05 ` Neil Bothwick
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From: Remy Blank @ 2006-03-26 9:31 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 07:32:45 +0200 (CEST), Meino Christian Cramer wrote:
>> Is there any backup tool, which simply copies the contents of one
>> partition, which is larger than one DVD, to DVDs "as plain as
>> possible" -- means copies the contents that way, that I simply can
>> mount DVD #n and can easily read and copy the contents?
>
> Search the list archives, this came up very recently. i think the program
> recommended was scdbackup.
>
> Note that backing up to DVD/CD file by file will destroy file
> permissions. I prefer to use squashfs to create a compressed copy of the
> filesystem and copy that to DVD. then I can mount it and copy files back
> without losing permissions.
sync2cd
It's in portage, but the latest version 0.9 is in ~ARCH.
And it does store the permission and ownership information along with
the files.
HTH.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: In search of two applikations
2006-03-26 9:31 ` [gentoo-user] " Remy Blank
@ 2006-03-26 12:05 ` Neil Bothwick
2006-03-26 18:43 ` Remy Blank
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From: Neil Bothwick @ 2006-03-26 12:05 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
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On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 11:31:52 +0200, Remy Blank wrote:
> sync2cd
>
> It's in portage, but the latest version 0.9 is in ~ARCH.
>
> And it does store the permission and ownership information along with
> the files.
That's because it stores files in an archive, which is just what the OP
didn't want. There's a choice to be made, use an archive for 100%
backups, or store files individually for simple copying, you can't have
both. I used squashfs because any live distro with a squashfs enabled
kernel can be used to mount the archive and then copy individual files.
but there are so many backup systems out there, and everyone has
different needs.
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* [gentoo-user] Re: In search of two applikations
2006-03-26 12:05 ` Neil Bothwick
@ 2006-03-26 18:43 ` Remy Blank
2006-03-26 19:21 ` Neil Bothwick
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From: Remy Blank @ 2006-03-26 18:43 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 11:31:52 +0200, Remy Blank wrote:
>>sync2cd
>>
>>It's in portage, but the latest version 0.9 is in ~ARCH.
>>
>>And it does store the permission and ownership information along with
>>the files.
>
> That's because it stores files in an archive,
Nope ;-)
It stores the files as-is, in the same hierarchy as the source tree, and
the permission and ownership info in a separate file in the directory
".sync2cd" at the root of the CD/DVD.
This means that if you restore a file "by hand" with cp, you don't
restore the metadata. But if you need it, you can restore it with
sync2cd (which incidentally will tell you on which medium the file is
stored, in the case of multi-CD backups) and the metadata is restored.
> There's a choice to be made, use an archive for 100%
> backups, or store files individually for simple copying, you can't have
> both.
There's still the solution "individual files with separate metadata".
> but there are so many backup systems out there, and everyone has
> different needs.
True. That's why I have written sync2cd in the first place :-)
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: In search of two applikations
2006-03-26 18:43 ` Remy Blank
@ 2006-03-26 19:21 ` Neil Bothwick
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From: Neil Bothwick @ 2006-03-26 19:21 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
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On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 20:43:48 +0200, Remy Blank wrote:
> > That's because it stores files in an archive,
>
> Nope ;-)
Silly me, I took all the references to an archive on the web page to mean
an archive :(
I personally wouldn't store backups this way, I prefer a compressed
archive when storing on DVD, but it does seem a good compromise,
especially when the files you need to restore have easily guessable
permissions, removing the need to use special software to restore them.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] In search of two applikations
2006-03-26 5:32 [gentoo-user] In search of two applikations Meino Christian Cramer
2006-03-26 7:57 ` Christoph Eckert
2006-03-26 8:48 ` Neil Bothwick
@ 2006-03-26 22:13 ` maxim wexler
2006-03-27 0:26 ` Nick Rout
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From: maxim wexler @ 2006-03-26 22:13 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
> Second one:
> Is there any backup tool, which simply copies the
> contents of one
> partition, which is larger than one DVD, to DVDs
> "as plain as
> possible" -- means copies the contents that way,
> that I simply can
> mount DVD #n and can easily read and copy the
> contents?
Backup? Sounds like your asking for Crackopen ;o
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* Re: [gentoo-user] In search of two applikations
2006-03-26 5:32 [gentoo-user] In search of two applikations Meino Christian Cramer
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2006-03-26 22:13 ` [gentoo-user] " maxim wexler
@ 2006-03-27 0:26 ` Nick Rout
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From: Nick Rout @ 2006-03-27 0:26 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 07:32:45 +0200 (CEST)
Meino Christian Cramer wrote:
> First one:
> What dvb-t TV-watching applikation is a good one ? My dvb-t card is
> recognized by lspci like that:
> 00:0b.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture (rev 11)
> 00:0b.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio Capture (rev 11)
Right well that doesn't look like a DVB-T card to me, it looks like a
framegrabber for ordinary analogue TV.
modprobe bttv
should load the module, and assuming it is the only v4l device you have
it will create a device called /dev/video0
now try watching with xawtv, and if that works graduate to tvtime. Both
in portage.
>
> I tried xmltv just to scan the channels with a vanilla Linux kernel
> 2.6.16, but xmltv seems not to understand my card (or vice
> versa)...or the version of the portage tree is outdated ? Dont know...
xmltv has no connection with your tv card. xmltv downloads programme
listings, but it doesn't tune your card. It tells you what is on TV, but
doesn't play it for you.
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