[gentoo-user] OT - Weird cdrom issue

[gentoo-user] OT - Weird cdrom issue

[Michael Sullivan]

My wife's computer (catherine) has a combo drive.  When I go to
"Computer" in nautilus on my computer I see "Floppy Drive",
"CDRW/DVD-ROM Drive", "Filesystem", and "Network".  When she goes to
"Computer" on hers, she only sees "Filesystem" and "Network".  Granted
she doesn't have a floppy drive.  Her combo drive is not listed.  When
she logs in as root she can mount CDs and the icon for the combo drive
will appear both on her desktop and on the "Computer" listing in
nautilus.  On my computer, it's there in "Computer" whether or not I
have a CD mounted.  My wife complained to me that she could not play
music CDs.  I checked /etc/group on her computer, and she is in the
cdrom group:

catherine ~ # cat /etc/group | grep 'cdrom'
cdrom:x:19:amy,michael,haldaemon

My question is why is the cdrom not available to user "amy" when root
has not mounted a CD and what do I have to do to get it where she can
use it without being root?

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Weird cdrom issue

[darren kirby]

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quoth the Michael Sullivan:

> My question is why is the cdrom not available to user "amy" when root
> has not mounted a CD and what do I have to do to get it where she can
> use it without being root?

Do you have 'users' as part of the fstab line for the cdrom?
-d
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Weird cdrom issue

[Michael Sullivan]

On Sat, 2006-03-25 at 13:12 -0800, darren kirby wrote:
> quoth the Michael Sullivan:
> 
> > My question is why is the cdrom not available to user "amy" when root
> > has not mounted a CD and what do I have to do to get it where she can
> > use it without being root?
> 
> Do you have 'users' as part of the fstab line for the cdrom?
> -d

There was no entry in catherine:/etc/fstab for cdrom.  It now looks
exactly like the cdrom line in /etc/fstab on my computer.  We rebooted
catherine, and the amy user still doesn't have her combo drive listed in
"Computer"...

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Weird cdrom issue

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 13:12:04 -0800, darren kirby wrote:

> Do you have 'users' as part of the fstab line for the cdrom?

Hey guys, this is 2006. We don't need fstab entries for CD-ROM or any
other removable drives!


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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Weird cdrom issue

[Rumen Yotov]

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On Sat, 2006-03-25 at 15:45 -0600, Michael Sullivan wrote:
> On Sat, 2006-03-25 at 13:12 -0800, darren kirby wrote:
> > quoth the Michael Sullivan:
> > 
> > > My question is why is the cdrom not available to user "amy" when root
> > > has not mounted a CD and what do I have to do to get it where she can
> > > use it without being root?
> > 
> > Do you have 'users' as part of the fstab line for the cdrom?
> > -d
> 
> There was no entry in catherine:/etc/fstab for cdrom.  It now looks
> exactly like the cdrom line in /etc/fstab on my computer.  We rebooted
> catherine, and the amy user still doesn't have her combo drive listed in
> "Computer"...
> 
Hi,
Do you use dbus/hal/ivman or pmount to auto-manage mounting of devices?
Seems the easiest way is with "udev" + some rules.
i'm using dbus/hal/ivman trio w/o any other configs.
But my usual user is member of more groups:
xxxxxx audio cdrom video games cdrw usb users xxxxx plugdev qemu
Only remember that 'plugdev' is needed for ivman etc.
All dbus/hal/ivman are daemons and need to be started in /etc/init.d.
HTH.Rumen

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Weird cdrom issue

[darren kirby]

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quoth the Neil Bothwick:
> On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 13:12:04 -0800, darren kirby wrote:
> > Do you have 'users' as part of the fstab line for the cdrom?
>
> Hey guys, this is 2006. We don't need fstab entries for CD-ROM or any
> other removable drives!

I'm old school. I've mounted everything manually since the beginning. New 
fangled software like udev and dbus frighten and confuse me. Don't make me 
grab some torches and pitchforks...

-d 
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"...the number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected..."
- Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson, June 1972

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Weird cdrom issue [SOLVED]

[Michael Sullivan]

On Sun, 2006-03-26 at 00:29 +0200, Rumen Yotov wrote:
> On Sat, 2006-03-25 at 15:45 -0600, Michael Sullivan wrote:
> > On Sat, 2006-03-25 at 13:12 -0800, darren kirby wrote:
> > > quoth the Michael Sullivan:
> > > 
> > > > My question is why is the cdrom not available to user "amy" when root
> > > > has not mounted a CD and what do I have to do to get it where she can
> > > > use it without being root?
> > > 
> > > Do you have 'users' as part of the fstab line for the cdrom?
> > > -d
> > 
> > There was no entry in catherine:/etc/fstab for cdrom.  It now looks
> > exactly like the cdrom line in /etc/fstab on my computer.  We rebooted
> > catherine, and the amy user still doesn't have her combo drive listed in
> > "Computer"...
> > 
> Hi,
> Do you use dbus/hal/ivman or pmount to auto-manage mounting of devices?
> Seems the easiest way is with "udev" + some rules.
> i'm using dbus/hal/ivman trio w/o any other configs.
> But my usual user is member of more groups:
> xxxxxx audio cdrom video games cdrw usb users xxxxx plugdev qemu
> Only remember that 'plugdev' is needed for ivman etc.
> All dbus/hal/ivman are daemons and need to be started in /etc/init.d.
> HTH.Rumen

catherine had hal installed, but I guess I forgot to add it to
rc-update.  I started it, and Amy now has the combo drive listed in
"Computer".  Thanks!

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Weird cdrom issue

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 15:45:34 -0800, darren kirby wrote:

> > Hey guys, this is 2006. We don't need fstab entries for CD-ROM or any
> > other removable drives!
> 
> I'm old school. I've mounted everything manually since the beginning.
> New fangled software like udev and dbus frighten and confuse me. Don't
> make me grab some torches and pitchforks...

I'm really old school, from the days when new things were considered
interesting, exciting and fun; not something to be afraid of.

Being afraid of the dark is understandable, being afraid of the light is
tragic :-O


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cannot therefore be permanently guaranteed.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Weird cdrom issue

[darren kirby]

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quoth the Neil Bothwick:
> I'm really old school, from the days when new things were considered
> interesting, exciting and fun; not something to be afraid of.
>
> Being afraid of the dark is understandable, being afraid of the light is
> tragic :-O

Well, I thought for sure when mentioning torches and pitchforks people would 
realise I was just being flippant. Should have used a smiley I guess...

No one told me that you don't need fstab anymore, so I was just throwing it 
out there as a suggestion. I didn't know it was so passe.

I'll go back in my cave ;)
-d 
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"...the number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected..."
- Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson, June 1972

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Weird cdrom issue

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 02:35:52 -0800, darren kirby wrote:

> > Being afraid of the dark is understandable, being afraid of the light
> > is tragic :-O
> 
> Well, I thought for sure when mentioning torches and pitchforks people
> would realise I was just being flippant.

So was I :)


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