From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1FIurE-0005Gd-Op for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 21:45:41 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5.20060308/8.13.5) with SMTP id k2DLfG5o006303; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 21:41:16 GMT Received: from ender.volumehost.net (adsl-69-154-123-202.dsl.fyvlar.swbell.net [69.154.123.202]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5.20060308/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k2DLXexH030624 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 21:33:40 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ender.volumehost.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACF8210244 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 21:33:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ender.volumehost.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ender.volumehost.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 08945-09 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 21:33:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ip70-178-212-144.ks.ks.cox.net (ip70-178-212-144.ks.ks.cox.net [70.178.212.144]) (using SSLv3 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ender.volumehost.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0472B10225 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 21:33:37 +0000 (UTC) From: "Boyd Stephen Smith Jr." To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Updated gentoo systems and fresh installs Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:33:31 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <9b1675090603131254x16e315e4uee810f8c81f08434@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9b1675090603131254x16e315e4uee810f8c81f08434@mail.gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200603131533.31158.bss03@volumehost.net> X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at volumehost.net X-Archives-Salt: bdabf5ec-edce-4227-a47c-44a97285ea17 X-Archives-Hash: c616f4cd22bb72a3987bbcd87608725b On Monday 13 March 2006 14:54, "Trenton Adams" wrote about '[gentoo-user] Updated gentoo systems and fresh installs': > Is there a difference between the two? I have 2005.1 installed. As > I've always understood it, my system will now always be up-to-date, as > long as I keep updating it. Is 2006.0 any different than 2005.1 after > the system has been installed? Not very. Some packages are masked by the profile so changing profiles will change what packages are installed, sometimes. I'm assuming you are using default-linux/x86/2005.1 and thinking about moving to default-linux/x86/2006.0 (there are equivalents for most archs, and probably some of the sub-profiles). If that's the case we see that: $ diff -u 2005.1 2006.0 diff -u 2005.1/make.defaults 2006.0/make.defaults --- 2005.1/make.defaults 2005-11-16 11:06:03.000000000 -0600 +++ 2006.0/make.defaults 2006-01-31 17:06:15.000000000 -0600 @@ -1,5 +1,9 @@ -# $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/profiles/default-linux/x86/2005.1/make.defaults,v 1.5 2005/11/16 17:00:36 wolf31o2 Exp $ +# $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/profiles/default-linux/x86/2006.0/make.defaults,v 1.6 2006/01/31 23:03:05 wolf31o2 Exp $ -USE="alsa apm arts avi bitmap-fonts cups eds emboss encode fortran foomaticdb gdbm gif gnome gpm gstreamer gtk gtk2 imlib jpeg kde libg++ libwww mad mikmod motif mp3 mpeg ogg oggvorbis opengl oss pdflib png qt quicktime sdl spell truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts vorbis X xml2 xmms xv" +# This is currently commented so that the stage1 tarball can also be used to +# build no-nptl systems. +#STAGE1_USE="nptl" + +USE="alsa apache2 apm arts avi cups eds emboss encode esd foomaticdb gdbm gif gnome gpm gstreamer gtk gtk2 imlib jpeg kde libg++ libwww mad mikmod motif mp3 mpeg nptl ogg opengl oss pdflib png qt quicktime sdl spell truetype udev vorbis X xml xmms xv" diff -u 2005.1/packages 2006.0/packages --- 2005.1/packages 2005-07-07 16:09:07.000000000 -0500 +++ 2006.0/packages 2006-01-18 15:19:57.000000000 -0600 @@ -1,6 +1,6 @@ -# $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/profiles/default-linux/x86/2005.1/packages,v 1.2 2005/07/07 20:11:37 wolf31o2 Exp $ +# $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/profiles/default-linux/x86/2006.0/packages,v 1.1 2006/01/18 21:19:57 wolf31o2 Exp $ Only in 2005.1: vserver (I stripped out the context lines, but things aren't wrapping correctly, so that my be a little hard to read.) ANYWAY, looks to me like vserver support is no longer available as a sub-profile, probably replaced or superceeded by default-linux/x86/vserver and that the default USE flags changed by adding apache2, esd, nptl, udev, and xml and removing bitmap-fonts, fortran, oggvorbis, truetype-fonts, type1-fonts, and xml2. nptl and udev you were probably already using, esd maybe not and it'll probably bring in a dependency or two. I betting xml2 has just gone away, in favor of xml. oggvorbis should have also gone away since there's no special libraries necessary to handle vorbis data in the ogg wrapper other that the ability to handle vorbis data (which can be in another wrapper, like matroska) and open ogg wrappers (which can contain other data like speex or theora). Changing the fortran flag will probably make your gcc recompile, unless you already had it turned off; I don't actually compile fortran, do you? I'm not really sure what's up with the fonts options, but it does make sense to not default to ALL types of fonts. The biggest change is the apache2 flag, so you may want to disable that is you do go with 2006.0 > I'm just curious, because I have to install gentoo on a notebook, but > I want package compatibility with my server. Do you mean you want to be able to use binary packages from the server, so that you don't have to compile on the notebook? If so, you probably want to keep both make.conf, make.profile, and /etc/portage identical. (If USE flags are different, a binary package will not be used.) -- "If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability." -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list