From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1FIGdO-0006MU-EL for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 02:48:42 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5.20060308/8.13.5) with SMTP id k2C2lYJU016744; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 02:47:34 GMT Received: from mailout2.igs.net (mailout2.igs.net [216.58.97.88]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5.20060308/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k2C2hMJ0031115 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 02:43:23 GMT Received: from waltdnes.org (i216-58-19-201.cybersurf.com [216.58.19.201]) by mailout2.igs.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 648FE47E971 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 21:43:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by waltdnes.org (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 11 Mar 2006 21:43:20 -0500 From: "Walter Dnes" Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 21:43:20 -0500 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Another reason to begin USE with "-*" Message-ID: <20060312024320.GA23050@waltdnes.org> References: <200603111724.33733@goldspace.net> <1142087934.6208.32.camel@io.moons.mynet> <200603111831.14931@goldspace.net> <20060312002031.GA24906@waltdnes.org> <44137251.3090002@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <44137251.3090002@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Archives-Salt: 06cb0fb3-75f5-4162-b3a5-d1c9d7ff6380 X-Archives-Hash: 5b74072b3372bae4a557a7023916e766 On Sat, Mar 11, 2006 at 04:58:57PM -0800, Ryan Tandy wrote > Walter Dnes wrote: > > Why in (diety's) name does the the average user need apache2? Or > >emboss (European Molecular Biology Open Software Suite)? After the > >"ipv6" fiasco, I began USE with "-*", like so... > http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/143049 I know; I was in on that thread. As another participant pointed out, fetchmail has long delays when compiled with ipv6 support, on an ipv4-only machine. Probably it does an ipv6 lookup, waits for the timeout, then falls back to ipv4. Since I use fetchmail, that is more than a hypothetical consideration for me. The whole point behind "-*" is to prevent future "surprises". Yesterday it was emboss and ipv6. Today it's apache2. What's next; and when? One reason I'm using Gentoo is because I want the maximum control over my machine that's possible without going to LFS. Starting USE with "-*" is part of my strategy for maintaining control. -- Walter Dnes In linux /sbin/init is Job #1 My musings on technology and security at http://tech_sec.blog.ca -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list