[gentoo-user] xorg-7: no console switching; can't exit gnome sanely.

[gentoo-user] xorg-7: no console switching; can't exit gnome sanely.

[Robert Persson]

I have just upgraded to xorg-7 and found that I can no longer use ctrl-alt-Fn 
to switch out of the x server. I am using the same version of fglrx that I 
was before I upgraded and this problem started happening. How do I get 
console-switching back?

I have also found, since the upgrade, that I can no longer exit gnome sanely. 
The first time I did it I got a kernel panic; the second time I found myself 
back at a garbled login screen; and the remaining 3 times I have simply found 
myself with a black screen and an unresponsive mouse and keyboard. I can 
however, still exit kde and blackbox without problem.

The garbled login screen was one I have seen before when I tried to start a 
second xsession from within a kde session. It looked a bit like what you get 
when you set a video card to a resolution your monitor can't handle, with a 
mess of broken horizontal lines across the screen at about the height the 
login window ought to be.

I am still using kdm as my session manager, if that makes any difference (it 
didn't in the past).

Any ideas what could be happening with my gnome sessions?

Thanks
Robert
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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-7: no console switching; can't exit gnome sanely.

[Willie Wong]

On Sat, Mar 04, 2006 at 12:24:07AM -0800, Penguin Lover Robert Persson squawked:
> I have just upgraded to xorg-7 and found that I can no longer use ctrl-alt-Fn 
> to switch out of the x server. I am using the same version of fglrx that I 
> was before I upgraded and this problem started happening. How do I get 
> console-switching back?
> 

Option "DontVTSwitch" "Off"

in the xorg.conf

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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-7: no console switching; can't exit gnome sanely.

[Robert Persson]

On Saturday 04 March 2006 02:33 Willie Wong was like:
> On Sat, Mar 04, 2006 at 12:24:07AM -0800, Penguin Lover Robert Persson 
squawked:
> > I have just upgraded to xorg-7 and found that I can no longer use
> > ctrl-alt-Fn to switch out of the x server. I am using the same version of
> > fglrx that I was before I upgraded and this problem started happening.
> > How do I get console-switching back?
>
> Option "DontVTSwitch" "Off"
>
> in the xorg.conf

This doesn't appear to work. Although I don't understand why I should need to 
specify a value for DontVTSwitch anyway. Is "Off" no longer the default?

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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-7: no console switching; can't exit gnome sanely.

[Willie Wong]

On Sat, Mar 04, 2006 at 02:13:04PM -0800, Penguin Lover Robert Persson squawked:
> On Saturday 04 March 2006 02:33 Willie Wong was like:
> > Option "DontVTSwitch" "Off"
> >
> > in the xorg.conf
> 
> This doesn't appear to work. Although I don't understand why I should need to 
> specify a value for DontVTSwitch anyway. Is "Off" no longer the default?
> 
In that case, I am out of ideas. Sorry!

I mentioned that because it is the one thing I remembered might affect
VT behaviour in X. I don't use xorg-7 personally, so I can't
verify/test. 

Perhaps, once Gmane comes back up, you can search the list archives. I
remember there being two threads in the past 3 or 4 months on the
similar VT problem. Perhaps there were more insight in some of them. 

Best of luck, 

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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-7: no console switching; can't exit gnome sanely.

[fire-eyes]

 I get console-switching back?
>>
>>Option "DontVTSwitch" "Off"
>>
>>in the xorg.conf
> 
> 
> This doesn't appear to work. Although I don't understand why I should need to 
> specify a value for DontVTSwitch anyway. Is "Off" no longer the default?
> 
> Thanks
> Robert

I noticed this problem when I went to xorg 7 as well, long ago. That
option also does not change the issue for me. In fact, I never found out
how to be able to switch to VT's again!

Please let me know if you find out (on the list and also directly, please).
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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-7: no console switching; can't exit gnome sanely.

[Andrei Slavoiu]

--- fire-eyes <sgtphou@fire-eyes.org> wrote:
>  I get console-switching back?
> >>
> >>Option "DontVTSwitch" "Off"
> >>
> >>in the xorg.conf
> > 
> > 
> > This doesn't appear to work. Although I don't
> understand why I should need to 
> > specify a value for DontVTSwitch anyway. Is "Off"
> no longer the default?
> > 
> > Thanks
> > Robert
> 
> I noticed this problem when I went to xorg 7 as
> well, long ago. That
> option also does not change the issue for me. In
> fact, I never found out
> how to be able to switch to VT's again!
> 
> Please let me know if you find out (on the list and
> also directly, please).
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This problem is because of the keyboard layout. If you
use KDE go to Control Center / Regional &
Accessibility / Keyboard Layout and select the right
one for your keyboard.


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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-7: no console switching; can't exit gnome sanely.

[fire-eyes]

> 
> This problem is because of the keyboard layout. If you
> use KDE go to Control Center / Regional &
> Accessibility / Keyboard Layout and select the right
> one for your keyboard.

Thanks for the advice. I have done this, logged out of kde, and logged
back in, however it still does not work at this time.

Did I miss something?

Curiously in Konsole, ctl-alt-F1 gives "P" , ctl-alt-F2 gives R.
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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-7: no console switching; can't exit gnome sanely.

[Benno Schulenberg]

fire-eyes wrote:
> Curiously in Konsole, ctl-alt-F1 gives "P" , ctl-alt-F2 gives R.

Have you tried fiddling with XkbModel and XkbLayout in xorg.conf?

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-422163-highlight-xkbmodel+xkblayout.html

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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-7: no console switching; can't exit gnome sanely.

[Andrei Slavoiu]

--- fire-eyes <sgtphou@fire-eyes.org> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > This problem is because of the keyboard layout. If
> you
> > use KDE go to Control Center / Regional &
> > Accessibility / Keyboard Layout and select the
> right
> > one for your keyboard.
> 
> Thanks for the advice. I have done this, logged out
> of kde, and logged
> back in, however it still does not work at this
> time.
> 
> Did I miss something?
> 
> Curiously in Konsole, ctl-alt-F1 gives "P" ,
> ctl-alt-F2 gives R.
You shouldn't need to logout, the change takes place
as soon as you hit Apply.
Anyway, this worked for me after upgrading to xorg
7.0. At first I could not switch to console either,
but as soon as I fixed my keyboard layout (in my case
it was actually the variant that changed it's name
from the old release) everything returned to normal.

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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-7: no console switching; can't exit gnome sanely.

[mfyang]

On Sat, Mar 04, 2006 at 12:24:07AM -0800, Robert Persson wrote:
> I have just upgraded to xorg-7 and found that I can no longer use ctrl-alt-Fn 
> to switch out of the x server. I am using the same version of fglrx that I 
> was before I upgraded and this problem started happening. How do I get 
> console-switching back?
> 
> I have also found, since the upgrade, that I can no longer exit gnome sanely. 
> The first time I did it I got a kernel panic; the second time I found myself 
> back at a garbled login screen; and the remaining 3 times I have simply found 
> myself with a black screen and an unresponsive mouse and keyboard. I can 
> however, still exit kde and blackbox without problem.

I am in a similar situation. If gdm is running, logout from a gnome session gives
me a garbled screen. But everything is ok if I use slim login manager.
               
I can switch from X to console by ctrl-alt-Fn. But switch back from console to
X hangs the whole system. :( Probably, this is the fault of ati fglrx driver, because
when I use radeon driver that comes with xorg, everything is fine.

> 
> The garbled login screen was one I have seen before when I tried to start a 
> second xsession from within a kde session. It looked a bit like what you get 
> when you set a video card to a resolution your monitor can't handle, with a 
> mess of broken horizontal lines across the screen at about the height the 
> login window ought to be.
> 
> I am still using kdm as my session manager, if that makes any difference (it 
> didn't in the past).
> 
> Any ideas what could be happening with my gnome sessions?
> 
> Thanks
> Robert
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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-7: no console switching; can't exit gnome sanely.

[Jeremy Olexa]

Robert Persson wrote:

>I have also found, since the upgrade, that I can no longer exit gnome sanely. 
>The first time I did it I got a kernel panic; the second time I found myself 
>back at a garbled login screen; and the remaining 3 times I have simply found 
>myself with a black screen and an unresponsive mouse and keyboard. I can 
>however, still exit kde and blackbox without problem.
>
I have been searching this like crazy trying to fix this because it 
happens to me too. Since I upgraded to gentoo-sources 2.6.15-r1 and 
ati-drivers 8.22.5 I have been having the same issue as you, kernel 
panic every time I restart X/reboot. Please let me know if you find a fix..!

Comment on this bug so we can get it fixed sooner (please): 
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122552

Related: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123525

I'm just hoping the next stable version of ati-drivers fixes this issue. 
I do not like rebooting my computer without syncing the filesystems.

-Jeremy
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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-7: no console switching; can't exit gnome sanely.

[Ghaith Hachem]

the only thing that solved this issue for me is downgrading to the
2.6.14 and forcing gdm to restart X each time i log out

it's in /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf

# If you are having trouble with using a single server for a long time and
# want gdm to kill/restart the server, turn this on
AlwaysRestartServer=true


On 3/5/06, Jeremy Olexa <olex.mail.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
> Robert Persson wrote:
>
> >I have also found, since the upgrade, that I can no longer exit gnome sanely.
> >The first time I did it I got a kernel panic; the second time I found myself
> >back at a garbled login screen; and the remaining 3 times I have simply found
> >myself with a black screen and an unresponsive mouse and keyboard. I can
> >however, still exit kde and blackbox without problem.
> >
> I have been searching this like crazy trying to fix this because it
> happens to me too. Since I upgraded to gentoo-sources 2.6.15-r1 and
> ati-drivers 8.22.5 I have been having the same issue as you, kernel
> panic every time I restart X/reboot. Please let me know if you find a fix..!
>
> Comment on this bug so we can get it fixed sooner (please):
> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122552
>
> Related: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123525
>
> I'm just hoping the next stable version of ati-drivers fixes this issue.
> I do not like rebooting my computer without syncing the filesystems.
>
> -Jeremy
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>
>


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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-7: no console switching; can't exit gnome sanely.

[Robert Persson]

On Sunday 05 March 2006 10:59 Jeremy Olexa was like:
> I have been searching this like crazy trying to fix this because it
> happens to me too. Since I upgraded to gentoo-sources 2.6.15-r1 and
> ati-drivers 8.22.5 I have been having the same issue as you, kernel
> panic every time I restart X/reboot. Please let me know if you find a
> fix..!

I've simply disabled kdm and am now using startx. Haven't had any problems 
since. Not an elegant solution, but will do till I can get hold of a mac and 
devote the linux box to more specialised work.

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