* [gentoo-user] 3d rendering with dri radeon
@ 2006-02-17 11:03 Bo Andresen
2006-02-17 11:20 ` Ghaith Hachem
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From: Bo Andresen @ 2006-02-17 11:03 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
I have a laptop with a ATI Radeon 9000 Mobility graphics card. I wanted to get
3d rendering working with the free dri drivers so I followed this howto:
http://www.gentoolinux.org/doc/en/dri-howto.xml
But it does not work:
~# glxinfo | grep rendering
direct rendering: No
Below is listed everything that I think might be relevant. I hope someone has
an idea. What I notice in particular is these two lines
from /var/log/Xorg.0.log:
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)
===========================================
~# lspci | grep AGP
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82855PM Processor to AGP Controller (rev
03)
===========================================
~#cat /boot/config
...
CONFIG_MTRR=y
...
CONFIG_AGP=m
CONFIG_AGP_INTEL=m
...
# CONFIG_DRM is not set
...
===========================================
~# emerge -vp xorg-x11 x11-drm
These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild R ] x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6 USE="bitmap-fonts ipv6 nls opengl
pam sse truetype-fonts type1-fonts xprint xv dfx -3dnow -cjk -debug -dlloader
-dmx -doc -font-server -insecure-drivers -minimal -mmx -nocxx -sdk -static" 0
kB
[ebuild R ] x11-base/x11-drm-20050502 0 kB
===========================================
~# cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep -v ^#
Section "Module"
Load "synaptics"
Load "dbe"
SubSection "extmod"
Option "omit xfree86-dga"
EndSubSection
Load "type1"
Load "freetype"
Load "dri"
Load "glx"
EndSection
Section "Files"
....
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard1"
....
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Touchpad"
...
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "External Mouse"
...
EndSection
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "AcerMonitor"
HorizSync 31.5-57.0
VertRefresh 50-70
EndSection
Section "Device"
Identifier "Ati Radeon 9000 Mobility"
Driver "radeon"
Option "AGPMode" "4"
Option "AGPFastWrite" "True"
Option "EnablePageFlip" "True"
EndSection
Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen 1"
Device "Ati Radeon 9000 Mobility"
Monitor "AcerMonitor"
DefaultDepth 24
Subsection "Display"
...
Subsection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1400x1050" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
ViewPort 0 0
EndSubsection
EndSection
Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Simple Layout"
Screen "Screen 1"
InputDevice "Touchpad" "Corepointer"
InputDevice "External Mouse" "SendCoreEvents"
InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection
Section "DRI"
Mode 0666
EndSection
===========================================
~# cat /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6
...
intel-agp
...
drm
===========================================
~# lsmod | grep 'drm\|agp'
drm 65944 0
intel_agp 20508 1
agpgart 29256 2 drm,intel_agp
===========================================
~# cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log
...
(II) LoadModule: "dri"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a
(II) Module dri: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 1.0.0
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2
(II) Loading sub module "drm"
(II) LoadModule: "drm"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/modules/linux/libdrm.a
(II) Module drm: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 1.0.0
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2
(II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI
(II) LoadModule: "glx"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.a
(II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 1.0.0
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2
(II) Loading sub module "GLcore"
(II) LoadModule: "GLcore"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a
(II) Module GLcore: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 1.0.0
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2
(II) Loading extension GLX
(II) LoadModule: "radeon"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.o
(II) Module radeon: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 4.0.1
Module class: X.Org Video Driver
ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7
(II) LoadModule: "ati"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/modules/drivers/ati_drv.o
(II) Module ati: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 6.5.6
Module class: X.Org Video Driver
ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7
...
(II) Primary Device is: PCI 01:00:0
(--) Assigning device section with no busID to primary device
(--) Chipset ATI Radeon Mobility 9000 (M9) Lf (AGP) found
...
(II) Loading sub module "radeon"
(II) LoadModule: "radeon"
(II) Reloading /usr/lib/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.o
...
(II) Setting vga for screen 0.
(II) RADEON(0): MMIO registers at 0xd0100000
(II) RADEON(0): PCI bus 1 card 0 func 0
(**) RADEON(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32
(II) RADEON(0): Pixel depth = 24 bits stored in 4 bytes (32 bpp pixmaps)
(==) RADEON(0): Default visual is TrueColor
(**) RADEON(0): Option "AGPMode" "4"
(**) RADEON(0): Option "AGPFastWrite" "True"
(**) RADEON(0): Option "EnablePageFlip" "True"
...
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)
drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)
drmOpenDevice: Open failed
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)
drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)
drmOpenDevice: Open failed
[drm] failed to load kernel module "radeon"
(II) RADEON(0): [drm] drmOpen failed
(EE) RADEON(0): [dri] DRIScreenInit failed. Disabling DRI.
(II) RADEON(0): Memory manager initialized to (0,0) (1408,8191)
(II) RADEON(0): Reserved area from (0,1050) to (1408,1052)
(II) RADEON(0): Largest offscreen area available: 1408 x 7139
(II) RADEON(0): Render acceleration enabled
(II) RADEON(0): Using XFree86 Acceleration Architecture (XAA)
...
(II) RADEON(0): Acceleration enabled
(==) RADEON(0): Backing store disabled
(==) RADEON(0): Silken mouse enabled
(II) RADEON(0): Using hardware cursor (scanline 1052)
(II) RADEON(0): Largest offscreen area available: 1408 x 7136
(II) RADEON(0): Direct rendering disabled
(==) RandR enabled
...
===========================================
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* Re: [gentoo-user] 3d rendering with dri radeon
2006-02-17 11:03 [gentoo-user] 3d rendering with dri radeon Bo Andresen
@ 2006-02-17 11:20 ` Ghaith Hachem
2006-02-22 22:45 ` Bo Andresen
2006-02-17 14:25 ` Andrei Slavoiu
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From: Ghaith Hachem @ 2006-02-17 11:20 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
havn't tried it since i have a newer unspoorted ship (X300SE)
but try this guide here
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_DRI_with_ATi_Open-Source_Drivers
On 2/17/06, Bo Andresen <bo.andresen@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have a laptop with a ATI Radeon 9000 Mobility graphics card. I wanted to get
> 3d rendering working with the free dri drivers so I followed this howto:
> http://www.gentoolinux.org/doc/en/dri-howto.xml
>
> But it does not work:
> ~# glxinfo | grep rendering
> direct rendering: No
>
> Below is listed everything that I think might be relevant. I hope someone has
> an idea. What I notice in particular is these two lines
> from /var/log/Xorg.0.log:
> drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
> drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)
>
> ===========================================
> ~# lspci | grep AGP
> 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82855PM Processor to AGP Controller (rev
> 03)
> ===========================================
> ~#cat /boot/config
> ...
> CONFIG_MTRR=y
> ...
> CONFIG_AGP=m
> CONFIG_AGP_INTEL=m
> ...
> # CONFIG_DRM is not set
> ...
> ===========================================
> ~# emerge -vp xorg-x11 x11-drm
>
> These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
>
> Calculating dependencies ...done!
> [ebuild R ] x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6 USE="bitmap-fonts ipv6 nls opengl
> pam sse truetype-fonts type1-fonts xprint xv dfx -3dnow -cjk -debug -dlloader
> -dmx -doc -font-server -insecure-drivers -minimal -mmx -nocxx -sdk -static" 0
> kB
> [ebuild R ] x11-base/x11-drm-20050502 0 kB
> ===========================================
> ~# cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep -v ^#
> Section "Module"
> Load "synaptics"
> Load "dbe"
> SubSection "extmod"
> Option "omit xfree86-dga"
> EndSubSection
> Load "type1"
> Load "freetype"
> Load "dri"
> Load "glx"
> EndSection
>
> Section "Files"
> ....
> EndSection
>
> Section "InputDevice"
> Identifier "Keyboard1"
> ....
> EndSection
>
> Section "InputDevice"
> Identifier "Touchpad"
> ...
> EndSection
>
> Section "InputDevice"
> Identifier "External Mouse"
> ...
> EndSection
>
> Section "Monitor"
> Identifier "AcerMonitor"
> HorizSync 31.5-57.0
> VertRefresh 50-70
> EndSection
>
> Section "Device"
> Identifier "Ati Radeon 9000 Mobility"
> Driver "radeon"
> Option "AGPMode" "4"
> Option "AGPFastWrite" "True"
> Option "EnablePageFlip" "True"
> EndSection
>
> Section "Screen"
> Identifier "Screen 1"
> Device "Ati Radeon 9000 Mobility"
> Monitor "AcerMonitor"
> DefaultDepth 24
> Subsection "Display"
> ...
> Subsection "Display"
> Depth 24
> Modes "1400x1050" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
> ViewPort 0 0
> EndSubsection
> EndSection
>
> Section "ServerLayout"
> Identifier "Simple Layout"
> Screen "Screen 1"
> InputDevice "Touchpad" "Corepointer"
> InputDevice "External Mouse" "SendCoreEvents"
> InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"
> EndSection
>
> Section "DRI"
> Mode 0666
> EndSection
> ===========================================
> ~# cat /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6
> ...
> intel-agp
> ...
> drm
> ===========================================
> ~# lsmod | grep 'drm\|agp'
> drm 65944 0
> intel_agp 20508 1
> agpgart 29256 2 drm,intel_agp
> ===========================================
> ~# cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log
> ...
> (II) LoadModule: "dri"
> (II) Loading /usr/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a
> (II) Module dri: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
> compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 1.0.0
> ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2
> (II) Loading sub module "drm"
> (II) LoadModule: "drm"
> (II) Loading /usr/lib/modules/linux/libdrm.a
> (II) Module drm: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
> compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 1.0.0
> ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2
> (II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI
> (II) LoadModule: "glx"
> (II) Loading /usr/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.a
> (II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
> compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 1.0.0
> ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2
> (II) Loading sub module "GLcore"
> (II) LoadModule: "GLcore"
> (II) Loading /usr/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a
> (II) Module GLcore: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
> compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 1.0.0
> ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2
> (II) Loading extension GLX
> (II) LoadModule: "radeon"
> (II) Loading /usr/lib/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.o
> (II) Module radeon: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
> compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 4.0.1
> Module class: X.Org Video Driver
> ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7
> (II) LoadModule: "ati"
> (II) Loading /usr/lib/modules/drivers/ati_drv.o
> (II) Module ati: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
> compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 6.5.6
> Module class: X.Org Video Driver
> ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7
> ...
> (II) Primary Device is: PCI 01:00:0
> (--) Assigning device section with no busID to primary device
> (--) Chipset ATI Radeon Mobility 9000 (M9) Lf (AGP) found
> ...
> (II) Loading sub module "radeon"
> (II) LoadModule: "radeon"
> (II) Reloading /usr/lib/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.o
> ...
> (II) Setting vga for screen 0.
> (II) RADEON(0): MMIO registers at 0xd0100000
> (II) RADEON(0): PCI bus 1 card 0 func 0
> (**) RADEON(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32
> (II) RADEON(0): Pixel depth = 24 bits stored in 4 bytes (32 bpp pixmaps)
> (==) RADEON(0): Default visual is TrueColor
> (**) RADEON(0): Option "AGPMode" "4"
> (**) RADEON(0): Option "AGPFastWrite" "True"
> (**) RADEON(0): Option "EnablePageFlip" "True"
> ...
> drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
> drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)
> drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)
> drmOpenDevice: Open failed
> drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
> drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)
> drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)
> drmOpenDevice: Open failed
> [drm] failed to load kernel module "radeon"
> (II) RADEON(0): [drm] drmOpen failed
> (EE) RADEON(0): [dri] DRIScreenInit failed. Disabling DRI.
> (II) RADEON(0): Memory manager initialized to (0,0) (1408,8191)
> (II) RADEON(0): Reserved area from (0,1050) to (1408,1052)
> (II) RADEON(0): Largest offscreen area available: 1408 x 7139
> (II) RADEON(0): Render acceleration enabled
> (II) RADEON(0): Using XFree86 Acceleration Architecture (XAA)
> ...
> (II) RADEON(0): Acceleration enabled
> (==) RADEON(0): Backing store disabled
> (==) RADEON(0): Silken mouse enabled
> (II) RADEON(0): Using hardware cursor (scanline 1052)
> (II) RADEON(0): Largest offscreen area available: 1408 x 7136
> (II) RADEON(0): Direct rendering disabled
> (==) RandR enabled
> ...
> ===========================================
>
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>
>
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* Re: [gentoo-user] 3d rendering with dri radeon
2006-02-17 11:03 [gentoo-user] 3d rendering with dri radeon Bo Andresen
2006-02-17 11:20 ` Ghaith Hachem
@ 2006-02-17 14:25 ` Andrei Slavoiu
2006-02-17 18:29 ` Benno Schulenberg
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From: Andrei Slavoiu @ 2006-02-17 14:25 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
--- Bo Andresen <bo.andresen@gmail.com> wrote:
> ~# lsmod | grep 'drm\|agp'
> drm 65944 0
> intel_agp 20508 1
> agpgart 29256 2 drm,intel_agp
There should also be a drm_radeon there (not sure how
it's called because I use it builtin the kernel)
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* Re: [gentoo-user] 3d rendering with dri radeon
2006-02-17 11:03 [gentoo-user] 3d rendering with dri radeon Bo Andresen
2006-02-17 11:20 ` Ghaith Hachem
2006-02-17 14:25 ` Andrei Slavoiu
@ 2006-02-17 18:29 ` Benno Schulenberg
2006-02-18 5:09 ` Bruce Burden
2006-02-18 16:55 ` [gentoo-user] " James
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From: Benno Schulenberg @ 2006-02-17 18:29 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Bo Andresen wrote:
> [ebuild R ] x11-base/x11-drm-20050502 0 kB
There's a much more recent version of this, have you tried that?
As DRM can change from kernel release to kernel release, you need
the version that fits your kernel. To use that newer DRM version,
it may be that you need to manually and locally install libdrm, or
upgrade to Xorg-7.0.
> Option "AGPFastWrite" "True"
> Option "EnablePageFlip" "True"
You may want to switch these off, when things start locking up.
Benno
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* Re: [gentoo-user] 3d rendering with dri radeon
2006-02-17 18:29 ` Benno Schulenberg
@ 2006-02-18 5:09 ` Bruce Burden
2006-02-18 16:02 ` Benno Schulenberg
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From: Bruce Burden @ 2006-02-18 5:09 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Fri, Feb 17, 2006 at 07:29:30PM +0100, Benno Schulenberg wrote:
> Bo Andresen wrote:
> > [ebuild R ] x11-base/x11-drm-20050502 0 kB
>
> There's a much more recent version of this, have you tried that?
>
Is it in the portage system? I did a "sync" a few weeks
ago, and I still get the 20050502 version, which will not
build. It complains about:
I2C_ALGO_ATI
is undeclared in the /usr/portage/tmp/portage/x11-drm-20050502/
work/drm/linux-core/radeon_i2c.c routine.
Bruce
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* Re: [gentoo-user] 3d rendering with dri radeon
2006-02-18 5:09 ` Bruce Burden
@ 2006-02-18 16:02 ` Benno Schulenberg
2006-02-22 22:52 ` Bo Andresen
2006-02-25 5:36 ` Bruce Burden
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From: Benno Schulenberg @ 2006-02-18 16:02 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Bruce Burden wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 17, 2006 at 07:29:30PM +0100, Benno Schulenberg wrote:
> > Bo Andresen wrote:
> > > [ebuild R ] x11-base/x11-drm-20050502 0 kB
> >
> > There's a much more recent version of this, have you tried
> > that?
>
> Is it in the portage system? I did a "sync" a few weeks
> ago, and I still get the 20050502 version,
Do an 'eix x11-drm' and see it lists a 20051223 version, keyword
masked. (If you don't have eix, first run 'emerge eix' and
'update-eix'.) So do
echo "x11-base/x11-drm ~x86" >>/etc/portage/package.keywords
and 'emerge x11-drm'.
Benno
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* [gentoo-user] Re: 3d rendering with dri radeon
2006-02-17 11:03 [gentoo-user] 3d rendering with dri radeon Bo Andresen
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2006-02-17 18:29 ` Benno Schulenberg
@ 2006-02-18 16:55 ` James
2006-02-18 18:03 ` [gentoo-user] " Rafael Fernández López
2006-02-18 21:47 ` Jerry McBride
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From: James @ 2006-02-18 16:55 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Bo Andresen <bo.andresen <at> gmail.com> writes:
>
> I have a laptop with a ATI Radeon 9000 Mobility graphics card. I wanted to get
> 3d rendering working with the free dri drivers so I followed this howto:
> http://www.gentoolinux.org/doc/en/dri-howto.xml
Extremely cool! I tried some time ago, and gave up. If you are successful, drop
me a line, with your final list of tricks that works:
Here's my system:
from lshw:
*-display
description: VGA compatible controller
product: Radeon R250 Lf [FireGL 9000]
vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
physical id: 0
bus info: pci@01:00.0
version: 01
size: 128MB
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: vga bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=radeonfb
resources: iomemory:f0000000-f7ffffff ioport:9000-90ff iomemory:
ec100000-ec10ffff irq:11
>From lspci:
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R250 Lf [FireGL
9000] (rev 01) (prog-if 00 [VGA])
Subsystem: CLEVO/KAPOK Computer Unknown device 0402
Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr-
Stepping+ SERR- FastB2B+
Status: Cap+ 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort-
<TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
Latency: 66 (2000ns min), Cache Line Size 04
Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 11
Region 0: Memory at f0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M]
Region 1: I/O ports at 9000 [size=256]
Region 2: Memory at ec100000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]
[virtual] Expansion ROM at ec120000 [disabled] [size=128K]
Capabilities: [58] AGP version 2.0
Status: RQ=48 Iso- ArqSz=0 Cal=0 SBA+ ITACoh- GART64- HTrans-
64bit- FW+ AGP3- Rate=x1,x2,x4
Command: RQ=1 ArqSz=0 Cal=0 SBA+ AGP- GART64- 64bit- FW- Rate=<none>
Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1+ D2+ AuxCurrent=0mA
PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)
Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
James
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* Re: [gentoo-user] 3d rendering with dri radeon
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2006-02-18 16:55 ` [gentoo-user] " James
@ 2006-02-18 18:03 ` Rafael Fernández López
2006-02-18 18:44 ` Mariusz Pękala
2006-02-18 20:32 ` Andrei Slavoiu
2006-02-18 21:47 ` Jerry McBride
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From: Rafael Fernández López @ 2006-02-18 18:03 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user; +Cc: Bo Andresen
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As I've read in http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_DRI_with_ATi_Open-Source_Drivers
there's no way to make it work for a Radeon above 9100. Oh !! mine is
Mobility Radeon 9700, if I want DRI through open source drivers, I've no way
to do it?
Bye,
Rafael Fernández López.
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2006-02-18 18:03 ` [gentoo-user] " Rafael Fernández López
@ 2006-02-18 18:44 ` Mariusz Pękala
2006-02-18 20:32 ` Andrei Slavoiu
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From: Mariusz Pękala @ 2006-02-18 18:44 UTC (permalink / raw
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On 2006-02-18 19:03:21 +0100 (Sat, Feb), Rafael Fernández López wrote:
> As I've read in http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_DRI_with_ATi_Open-Source_Drivers
> there's no way to make it work for a Radeon above 9100. Oh !! mine is
> Mobility Radeon 9700, if I want DRI through open source drivers, I've no way
> to do it?
>
> Bye,
> Rafael Fernández López.
Politely complain to ATI - maybe it will cause something.
If you werent on laptop I would say: buy an older card.
HTHBIDTIW.
(Hope This Helps But I Don't Think It Will)
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* Re: [gentoo-user] 3d rendering with dri radeon
2006-02-18 18:03 ` [gentoo-user] " Rafael Fernández López
2006-02-18 18:44 ` Mariusz Pękala
@ 2006-02-18 20:32 ` Andrei Slavoiu
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From: Andrei Slavoiu @ 2006-02-18 20:32 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
--- Rafael Fernández López
<info@maestroprogramador.com> wrote:
> As I've read in
>
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_DRI_with_ATi_Open-Source_Drivers
>
> there's no way to make it work for a Radeon above
> 9100. Oh !! mine is
> Mobility Radeon 9700, if I want DRI through open
> source drivers, I've no way
> to do it?
It should work with Xorg 7.0. At least my 9550 is.
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2006-02-17 11:03 [gentoo-user] 3d rendering with dri radeon Bo Andresen
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2006-02-18 18:03 ` [gentoo-user] " Rafael Fernández López
@ 2006-02-18 21:47 ` Jerry McBride
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From: Jerry McBride @ 2006-02-18 21:47 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Friday 17 February 2006 06:03, Bo Andresen wrote:
> I have a laptop with a ATI Radeon 9000 Mobility graphics card. I wanted to
> get 3d rendering working with the free dri drivers so I followed this
> howto: http://www.gentoolinux.org/doc/en/dri-howto.xml
>
I got my 9100 IGP to do 3d via the http://dri.sourceforge.net project. You can
too.
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2006-02-17 11:20 ` Ghaith Hachem
@ 2006-02-22 22:45 ` Bo Andresen
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To: gentoo-user
On Friday 17 February 2006 12:20, Ghaith Hachem wrote:
> havn't tried it since i have a newer unspoorted ship (X300SE)
> but try this guide here
> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_DRI_with_ATi_Open-Source_Drivers
I'll try that howto when I get some time... Thanks.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] 3d rendering with dri radeon
2006-02-18 16:02 ` Benno Schulenberg
@ 2006-02-22 22:52 ` Bo Andresen
2006-02-23 20:19 ` Benno Schulenberg
2006-02-25 5:36 ` Bruce Burden
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From: Bo Andresen @ 2006-02-22 22:52 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Saturday 18 February 2006 17:02, Benno Schulenberg wrote:
> Do an 'eix x11-drm' and see it lists a 20051223 version, keyword
> masked. (If you don't have eix, first run 'emerge eix' and
> 'update-eix'.) So do
>
> echo "x11-base/x11-drm ~x86" >>/etc/portage/package.keywords
>
> and 'emerge x11-drm'.
Well, I did try both x86 (20050502) and ~x86 (20051223). In fact at first the
x86 didn't compile so I installed ~x86 and I thought I had ~x86 listed in the
origal post. But apparently it did succeed at some point and I forgot to put
~x86 in /etc/portage/package.keywords (one of the very few times I've
installed a package with ACCEPT_KEYWORDS on the command line...). Anyway
neither gave me working hardware acceleration. :(
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* Re: [gentoo-user] 3d rendering with dri radeon
2006-02-22 22:52 ` Bo Andresen
@ 2006-02-23 20:19 ` Benno Schulenberg
2006-02-23 21:44 ` Bo Andresen
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From: Benno Schulenberg @ 2006-02-23 20:19 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Bo Andresen wrote:
> Well, I did try both x86 (20050502) and ~x86 (20051223).
> [...]
> Anyway neither gave me working hardware acceleration. :(
Still the same error (drmOpenDevice: Open failed)?
Earlier you wrote:
> ~# cat /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6
> ...
> intel-agp
> ...
> drm
Add radeon in there, so that the module is loaded before X starts.
When it still fails, post the agp/drm/radeon related messages from
dmesg.
When you're using udev, you could also try upgrading to the latest
~x86 version. (Myself I simply use static device nodes.)
> Option "AGPFastWrite" "True"
> Option "EnablePageFlip" "True"
Do switch these off. It probably won't help, but when things don't
work you have to try everything. Also try setting AGPMode to 1 or
2. And try compiling agpgart into the kernel.
> [ebuild R ] x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6 USE="bitmap-fonts
> ipv6 nls opengl pam sse truetype-fonts type1-fonts xprint xv dfx
> -3dnow -cjk -debug -dlloader -dmx -doc -font-server
> -insecure-drivers -minimal -mmx -nocxx -sdk -static" 0 kB
Here I have 3dnow and mmx active in the USE flags.
Benno
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* Re: [gentoo-user] 3d rendering with dri radeon
2006-02-23 20:19 ` Benno Schulenberg
@ 2006-02-23 21:44 ` Bo Andresen
2006-02-23 22:30 ` Benno Schulenberg
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From: Bo Andresen @ 2006-02-23 21:44 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Thursday 23 February 2006 21:19, Benno Schulenberg wrote:
> Bo Andresen wrote:
> > Well, I did try both x86 (20050502) and ~x86 (20051223).
> > [...]
> > Anyway neither gave me working hardware acceleration. :(
>
> Still the same error (drmOpenDevice: Open failed)?
Yes. No change.
> Earlier you wrote:
> > ~# cat /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6
> > ...
> > intel-agp
> > ...
> > drm
>
> Add radeon in there, so that the module is loaded before X starts.
> When it still fails, post the agp/drm/radeon related messages from
> dmesg.
I don't have a kernel module called radeon. I guess that's the problem..
~# modprobe -l | grep 'agp\|drm\|rad'
/lib/modules/2.6.15-gentoo-r1-dri/kernel/drivers/video/aty/radeonfb.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.15-gentoo-r1-dri/kernel/drivers/char/agp/agpgart.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.15-gentoo-r1-dri/kernel/drivers/char/agp/intel-agp.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.15-gentoo-r1-dri/x11-drm/drm.ko
> When you're using udev, you could also try upgrading to the latest
> ~x86 version. (Myself I simply use static device nodes.)
~# eix -e udev
* sys-fs/udev
Available versions: 068-r1 ~069 070-r1 ~071 ~072 073 ~077 ~077-r1
~077-r2 ~077-r3 ~077-r4 ~077-r5 ~078 079 079-r1 ~081 ~081-r1 ~084
Installed: 079-r1
You are suggesting I move to version udev-084?
> > Option "AGPFastWrite" "True"
> > Option "EnablePageFlip" "True"
>
> Do switch these off. It probably won't help, but when things don't
> work you have to try everything. Also try setting AGPMode to 1 or
> 2. And try compiling agpgart into the kernel.
I'll write back when I have tried these suggestions.
> > [ebuild R ] x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6 USE="bitmap-fonts
> > ipv6 nls opengl pam sse truetype-fonts type1-fonts xprint xv dfx
> > -3dnow -cjk -debug -dlloader -dmx -doc -font-server
> > -insecure-drivers -minimal -mmx -nocxx -sdk -static" 0 kB
>
> Here I have 3dnow and mmx active in the USE flags.
Well, this is a laptop with a Pentium M processor so I probably shouldn't turn
3dnow on.
> Benno
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* Re: [gentoo-user] 3d rendering with dri radeon
2006-02-23 21:44 ` Bo Andresen
@ 2006-02-23 22:30 ` Benno Schulenberg
2006-02-23 22:51 ` Bo Andresen
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From: Benno Schulenberg @ 2006-02-23 22:30 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Bo Andresen wrote:
> I don't have a kernel module called radeon. I guess that's the
> problem..
Aah! But that module is provided by x11-base/x11-drm. Maybe you
need to add the video_cards_ati USE flag?
> You are suggesting I move to version udev-084?
Only when you have the radeon module and it somehow doesn't create
the device node correctly and you have tried everything else.
Benno
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* Re: [gentoo-user] 3d rendering with dri radeon
2006-02-23 22:30 ` Benno Schulenberg
@ 2006-02-23 22:51 ` Bo Andresen
2006-02-23 23:04 ` Benno Schulenberg
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From: Bo Andresen @ 2006-02-23 22:51 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Thursday 23 February 2006 23:30, Benno Schulenberg wrote:
> Bo Andresen wrote:
> > I don't have a kernel module called radeon. I guess that's the
> > problem..
>
> Aah! But that module is provided by x11-base/x11-drm. Maybe you
> need to add the video_cards_ati USE flag?
That's it! :D
~$ glxinfo | grep dir
direct rendering: Yes
>From my point of view the problem was that emerge -vp x11-drm gives no
indication of any use flags being present:
root@BA:~# emerge -vp x11-drm
These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild R ] x11-base/x11-drm-20051223 VIDEO_CARDS="ati -i810 -mga -nv
-savage -sis -tdfx -via" 0 kB
Total size of downloads: 0 kB
I did try with both VIDEO_CARDS="ati" and VIDEO_CARDS="radeon" in make.conf
but neither gave the radeon kernel module (without any of them it wouldn't
compile though). But adding video_cards_ati to USE flags solved the problem.
~# grep drm /etc/portage/package.use
x11-base/x11-drm video_cards_ati
Do you think this is a bug in the ebuild?
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* Re: [gentoo-user] 3d rendering with dri radeon
2006-02-23 22:51 ` Bo Andresen
@ 2006-02-23 23:04 ` Benno Schulenberg
2006-02-23 23:29 ` Bo Andresen
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From: Benno Schulenberg @ 2006-02-23 23:04 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Bo Andresen wrote:
> On Thursday 23 February 2006 23:30, Benno Schulenberg wrote:
> > Aah! But that module is provided by x11-base/x11-drm. Maybe
> > you need to add the video_cards_ati USE flag?
>
> That's it! :D
:) Congrats.
> I did try with both VIDEO_CARDS="ati" and VIDEO_CARDS="radeon" in
> make.conf but neither gave the radeon kernel module (without any
> of them it wouldn't compile though). But adding video_cards_ati
> to USE flags solved the problem.
>
> Do you think this is a bug in the ebuild?
No. But maybe it is a bug in the newer version of portage that you
use, because here the VIDEO_CARDS="via" gets autoconverted to the
video_cards_via USE flag. Maybe try again, taking extra care to
avoid typos in VIDEO_CARDS="ati"?
Benno
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2006-02-23 23:04 ` Benno Schulenberg
@ 2006-02-23 23:29 ` Bo Andresen
2006-02-24 19:14 ` Benno Schulenberg
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From: Bo Andresen @ 2006-02-23 23:29 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Friday 24 February 2006 00:04, Benno Schulenberg wrote:
> Bo Andresen wrote:
> > Do you think this is a bug in the ebuild?
>
> No. But maybe it is a bug in the newer version of portage that you
> use, because here the VIDEO_CARDS="via" gets autoconverted to the
> video_cards_via USE flag. Maybe try again, taking extra care to
> avoid typos in VIDEO_CARDS="ati"?
I did do that. And as stated before it won't compile without the VIDEO_CARDS
variable in it's environment. Tried several times with both ati and radeon..
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* Re: [gentoo-user] 3d rendering with dri radeon
2006-02-23 23:29 ` Bo Andresen
@ 2006-02-24 19:14 ` Benno Schulenberg
2006-02-24 22:57 ` Bo Andresen
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From: Benno Schulenberg @ 2006-02-24 19:14 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Bo Andresen wrote:
> On Friday 24 February 2006 00:04, Benno Schulenberg wrote:
> > Maybe try again, taking extra
> > care to avoid typos in VIDEO_CARDS="ati"?
>
> I did do that. And as stated before it won't compile without the
> VIDEO_CARDS variable in it's environment. Tried several times
> with both ati and radeon..
I've emerged the latest version of portage (2.1_pre4-r1), put
VIDEO_CARDS="ati" in /etc/make.conf, have no "video_cards_..." set
in the USE flags, and have emerged x11-drm. It does produce a
radeon module (and a drm.ko, r128.ko, and mach64.ko besides).
What version of portage are you using that this isn't working for
you?
Benno
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* Re: [gentoo-user] 3d rendering with dri radeon
2006-02-24 19:14 ` Benno Schulenberg
@ 2006-02-24 22:57 ` Bo Andresen
2006-02-24 23:36 ` Benno Schulenberg
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From: Bo Andresen @ 2006-02-24 22:57 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Friday 24 February 2006 20:14, Benno Schulenberg wrote:
> Bo Andresen wrote:
> > On Friday 24 February 2006 00:04, Benno Schulenberg wrote:
> > > Maybe try again, taking extra
> > > care to avoid typos in VIDEO_CARDS="ati"?
> >
> > I did do that. And as stated before it won't compile without the
> > VIDEO_CARDS variable in it's environment. Tried several times
> > with both ati and radeon..
>
> I've emerged the latest version of portage (2.1_pre4-r1), put
> VIDEO_CARDS="ati" in /etc/make.conf, have no "video_cards_..." set
> in the USE flags, and have emerged x11-drm. It does produce a
> radeon module (and a drm.ko, r128.ko, and mach64.ko besides).
I was very sure that I had tested this twice with VIDEO_CARDS="ati". Both
times the ati flag didn't get enabled i.e. emerge -vp x11-drm showed:
[ebuild R ] x11-base/x11-drm-20051223 VIDEO_CARDS="-ati -i810 -mga -nv
-savage -sis -tdfx -via" 0 kB
This of course didn't result in the radeon driver being built. It seems,
however, that my memory must be failing (can't find any other explanation)
since when I remove the use flag now and set VIDEO_CARDS="ati" the flag does
get enabled and the radeon module built. I really don't understand this - was
so sure...
So obviously there is no bug other than me.. ;)
> What version of portage are you using that this isn't working for
> you?
I have been using portage 2.1_pre4-r1 all along. Having portage sending mails
to me is invaluable. :)
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* Re: [gentoo-user] 3d rendering with dri radeon
2006-02-24 22:57 ` Bo Andresen
@ 2006-02-24 23:36 ` Benno Schulenberg
2006-02-24 23:54 ` Bo Andresen
2006-02-25 17:50 ` Bo Andresen
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From: Benno Schulenberg @ 2006-02-24 23:36 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Bo Andresen wrote:
> I was very sure that I had tested this twice with
> VIDEO_CARDS="ati". Both times the ati flag didn't get enabled
That's why I said to take extra care to avoid typos. :)
> i.e. emerge -vp x11-drm showed:
>
> [ebuild R ] x11-base/x11-drm-20051223 VIDEO_CARDS="-ati
> -i810 -mga -nv -savage -sis -tdfx -via" 0 kB
It would have been useful if you'd shown just this line in your very
first mail...
But it's working now. So tell us how many frames glxgears is doing
now, with and without radeon. :)
Benno
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* Re: [gentoo-user] 3d rendering with dri radeon
2006-02-24 23:36 ` Benno Schulenberg
@ 2006-02-24 23:54 ` Bo Andresen
2006-02-25 14:03 ` Benno Schulenberg
2006-02-25 17:50 ` Bo Andresen
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From: Bo Andresen @ 2006-02-24 23:54 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Saturday 25 February 2006 00:36, Benno Schulenberg wrote:
> But it's working now. So tell us how many frames glxgears is doing
> now, with and without radeon. :)
Is there a way to disable dri for this test without restarting X?
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* Re: [gentoo-user] 3d rendering with dri radeon
2006-02-18 16:02 ` Benno Schulenberg
2006-02-22 22:52 ` Bo Andresen
@ 2006-02-25 5:36 ` Bruce Burden
2006-02-25 14:10 ` Benno Schulenberg
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From: Bruce Burden @ 2006-02-25 5:36 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Sat, Feb 18, 2006 at 05:02:30PM +0100, Benno Schulenberg wrote:
> Bruce Burden wrote:
>
> > Is it in the portage system? I did a "sync" a few weeks
> > ago, and I still get the 20050502 version,
>
> Do an 'eix x11-drm' and see it lists a 20051223 version, keyword
> masked. (If you don't have eix, first run 'emerge eix' and
> 'update-eix'.) So do
>
> echo "x11-base/x11-drm ~x86" >>/etc/portage/package.keywords
>
> and 'emerge x11-drm'.
>
Okay, I have:
* x11-base/x11-drm
Latest version available: 20051223
Latest version installed: 20051223
Size of downloaded files: 549 kB
Homepage: http://dri.sf.net
Description: DRM Kernel Modules for X11
License: X11
* x11-drivers/ati-drivers
Latest version available: 8.14.13-r3
Latest version installed: 8.14.13-r3
Size of downloaded files: 23,186 kB
Homepage: http://www.ati.com
Description: Ati precompiled drivers for r350, r300, r250 and r200 chipsets
License: ATI
# lsmod
Module Size Used by
radeon 98464 0
drm 61592 1 radeon
agpgart 27216 1 drm
bluetooth 39652 0
libcrc32c 2816 0
crc_ccitt 2176 0
and nothing in /dev/dri, which may explain:
(II) fglrx(0): UMM area: 0xc08f7000 (size=0x076f9000)
(II) fglrx(0): driver needs X.org 6.8.x
(II) fglrx(0): detected X.org 6.8.2
(II) Loading extension ATIFGLRXDRI
(II) fglrx(0): doing DRIScreenInit
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)
drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)
drmOpenDevice: Open failed
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)
drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)
drmOpenDevice: Open failed
[drm] failed to load kernel module "fglrx"
(II) fglrx(0): [drm] drmOpen failed
(EE) fglrx(0): DRIScreenInit failed!
(WW) fglrx(0): ***********************************************
(WW) fglrx(0): * DRI initialization failed! *
(WW) fglrx(0): * (maybe driver kernel module missing or bad) *
(WW) fglrx(0): * 2D acceleraton available (MMIO) *
(WW) fglrx(0): * no 3D acceleration available *
(WW) fglrx(0): ********************************************* *
(this is from /var/log/Xorg.0.log)
and, finally:
[fglrx:firegl_stub_register] *ERROR* Unable to the open some already present DRM kernel module!
So, what am I doing wrong?
The drm module seems to be the problem child, once I added that, fglrx got
tempermental...
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* Re: [gentoo-user] 3d rendering with dri radeon
2006-02-24 23:54 ` Bo Andresen
@ 2006-02-25 14:03 ` Benno Schulenberg
2006-02-25 17:42 ` Bo Andresen
2006-02-26 4:02 ` Bruce Burden
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From: Benno Schulenberg @ 2006-02-25 14:03 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Bo Andresen wrote:
> Is there a way to disable dri for this test without restarting X?
Good question. I don't know. What I do is simply move the driver
in /usr/lib/modules/dri/ out of the way, or renaming it temporarily
(to say NOTradeon_dri.so).
Benno
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2006-02-25 5:36 ` Bruce Burden
@ 2006-02-25 14:10 ` Benno Schulenberg
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From: Benno Schulenberg @ 2006-02-25 14:10 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Bruce Burden wrote:
> # lsmod
> Module Size Used by
> radeon 98464 0
> drm 61592 1 radeon
> agpgart 27216 1 drm
There should also be an agp module specific for your chipset.
> [fglrx:firegl_stub_register] *ERROR* Unable to the open some
> already present DRM kernel module!
>
> So, what am I doing wrong?
You need to choose what you want to use: either the open-source
radeon driver (x11-drm), or the closed source fglrx (ati-drivers).
> The drm module seems to be the problem child, once I added that,
> fglrx got tempermental...
As far as I know fglrx contains its own drm.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] 3d rendering with dri radeon
2006-02-25 14:03 ` Benno Schulenberg
@ 2006-02-25 17:42 ` Bo Andresen
2006-02-26 4:02 ` Bruce Burden
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From: Bo Andresen @ 2006-02-25 17:42 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Saturday 25 February 2006 15:03, Benno Schulenberg wrote:
> Bo Andresen wrote:
> > Is there a way to disable dri for this test without restarting X?
>
> Good question. I don't know. What I do is simply move the driver
> in /usr/lib/modules/dri/ out of the way, or renaming it temporarily
> (to say NOTradeon_dri.so).
That doesn't work for me. But moving /usr/lib/modules/dri/r200_dri.so does. ;)
Moving the entire directory would of course work for everyone...
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* Re: [gentoo-user] 3d rendering with dri radeon
2006-02-24 23:36 ` Benno Schulenberg
2006-02-24 23:54 ` Bo Andresen
@ 2006-02-25 17:50 ` Bo Andresen
2006-02-28 12:13 ` Bo Andresen
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From: Bo Andresen @ 2006-02-25 17:50 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Saturday 25 February 2006 00:36, Benno Schulenberg wrote:
> But it's working now. So tell us how many frames glxgears is doing
> now, with and without radeon. :)
Actually the results using dri is worse than the results without dri in terms
of frame rates. Without dri I get something like 250 FPS. With dri I get
something like 228 FPS. The great difference though is when looking at the X
cpu usage. glxgears uses around 0.5 % with or without dri. But without dri X
uses 92% of the cpu resources. With dri X uses between 0.5 and 1% cpu. So
obviously dri is preferable... ;)
Listed the output below if anyone is interested.
~$ glxinfo | grep dir
direct rendering: No
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
~$ glxgears
792 frames in 5.0 seconds = 158.400 FPS
1945 frames in 5.0 seconds = 389.000 FPS
1847 frames in 5.0 seconds = 369.400 FPS
1265 frames in 5.0 seconds = 253.000 FPS
1138 frames in 5.0 seconds = 227.600 FPS
1139 frames in 5.0 seconds = 227.800 FPS
1265 frames in 5.0 seconds = 253.000 FPS
1138 frames in 5.0 seconds = 227.600 FPS
1139 frames in 5.0 seconds = 227.800 FPS
1265 frames in 5.0 seconds = 253.000 FPS
1265 frames in 5.0 seconds = 253.000 FPS
1265 frames in 5.0 seconds = 253.000 FPS
1265 frames in 5.0 seconds = 253.000 FPS
1265 frames in 5.0 seconds = 253.000 FPS
1265 frames in 5.0 seconds = 253.000 FPS
1138 frames in 5.0 seconds = 227.600 FPS
X usage ~92%
~$ glxinfo | grep dir
direct rendering: Yes
~$ glxgears
1035 frames in 5.0 seconds = 207.000 FPS
1162 frames in 5.0 seconds = 232.400 FPS
1155 frames in 5.0 seconds = 231.000 FPS
1143 frames in 5.0 seconds = 228.600 FPS
844 frames in 5.0 seconds = 168.800 FPS
1145 frames in 5.0 seconds = 229.000 FPS
1135 frames in 5.0 seconds = 227.000 FPS
1164 frames in 5.0 seconds = 232.800 FPS
1144 frames in 5.0 seconds = 228.800 FPS
627 frames in 5.0 seconds = 125.400 FPS
1048 frames in 5.0 seconds = 209.600 FPS
1148 frames in 5.0 seconds = 229.600 FPS
1141 frames in 5.0 seconds = 228.200 FPS
1057 frames in 5.0 seconds = 211.400 FPS
1077 frames in 5.0 seconds = 215.400 FPS
1137 frames in 5.0 seconds = 227.400 FPS
X usage: 0.5-1%
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* Re: [gentoo-user] 3d rendering with dri radeon
2006-02-25 14:03 ` Benno Schulenberg
2006-02-25 17:42 ` Bo Andresen
@ 2006-02-26 4:02 ` Bruce Burden
2006-02-26 4:39 ` Bo Andresen
2006-02-26 5:56 ` Richard Fish
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From: Bruce Burden @ 2006-02-26 4:02 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Okay, I have decided to use the xorg DRM module. However, I am
still doing something wrong:
name of display: tigerprowl:0.0
Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
display: tigerprowl:0 screen: 0
direct rendering: No
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.2
server glx extensions:
I am not sure what this means, however, as:
(II) LoadModule: "extmod"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/modules/extensions/libextmod.a
(II) Module extmod: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: X.Org Server Extension
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2
(II) Loading extension SHAPE
(II) Loading extension MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD
(II) Loading extension BIG-REQUESTS
(II) Loading extension SYNC
(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
(II) Loading extension XC-MISC
(II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension
(II) Loading extension XFree86-Misc
(II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA
(II) Loading extension DPMS
(II) Loading extension TOG-CUP
(II) Loading extension Extended-Visual-Information
(II) Loading extension XVideo
(II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
(II) Loading extension X-Resource
(II) LoadModule: "dri"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a
(II) Module dri: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 1.0.0
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2
(II) Loading sub module "drm"
(II) LoadModule: "drm"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/modules/linux/libdrm.a
(II) Module drm: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 1.0.0
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2
(II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI
(II) LoadModule: "dbe"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/modules/extensions/libdbe.a
(II) Module dbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: X.Org Server Extension
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2
(II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER
The Xorg.0.log file shows what seems to be the appropriate DRI module
being loaded.
I have:
Section "Device"
Identifier "X600"
Driver "radeon"
VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc"
BoardName "RV350 [MOBILITY RADEON X600]"
BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection
for the xorg.conf entry. Should it be "ati"?
# lsmod
Module Size Used by
radeon 98464 0
drm 61592 1 radeon
intel_agp 18332 1
agpgart 27216 2 drm,intel_agp
bluetooth 39652 0
libcrc32c 2816 0
crc_ccitt 2176 0
I assume intel_agp is appropriate for the 915 chipset?
Thank you,
Bruce
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* Re: [gentoo-user] 3d rendering with dri radeon
2006-02-26 4:02 ` Bruce Burden
@ 2006-02-26 4:39 ` Bo Andresen
2006-02-26 5:56 ` Richard Fish
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From: Bo Andresen @ 2006-02-26 4:39 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
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On Sunday 26 February 2006 05:02, Bruce Burden wrote:
> Okay, I have decided to use the xorg DRM module. However, I am
> still doing something wrong:
First of all did you follow the guide at http://www.gentoolinux.org/doc/en/dri-howto.xml ? Or any other guide?
Assuming you used the guided above:
1) Could you post the output of:
zcat /proc/config.gz | grep 'MTRR\|AGP\|DRM'
2) What version of x11-drm are you using? Did you set VIDEO_CARDS="ati" in make.conf (or on the command line while emerge x11-drm)? BTW what version of xorg-x11?
3) What does the Module section of your xorg.conf look like?
> I have:
>
> Section "Device"
> Identifier "X600"
> Driver "radeon"
> VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc"
> BoardName "RV350 [MOBILITY RADEON X600]"
> BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
> EndSection
>
> for the xorg.conf entry. Should it be "ati"?
No.
> # lsmod
> Module Size Used by
> radeon 98464 0
> drm 61592 1 radeon
> intel_agp 18332 1
> agpgart 27216 2 drm,intel_agp
[SNIP]
Looks all right.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] 3d rendering with dri radeon
2006-02-26 4:02 ` Bruce Burden
2006-02-26 4:39 ` Bo Andresen
@ 2006-02-26 5:56 ` Richard Fish
2006-02-28 20:36 ` Benno Schulenberg
1 sibling, 1 reply; 40+ messages in thread
From: Richard Fish @ 2006-02-26 5:56 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On 2/25/06, Bruce Burden <brucegb@realtime.net> wrote:
>
>
> Okay, I have decided to use the xorg DRM module. However, I am
> still doing something wrong:
<snip>
>
> BoardName "RV350 [MOBILITY RADEON X600]"
The opensource xorg/kernel drivers do not support DRI with this chip.
You can verify that by looking at the vendor/product ID with lspci,
and then comparing with the table in
/usr/src/linux/drivers/char/drm/drm_pciids.h.
-Richard
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* Re: [gentoo-user] 3d rendering with dri radeon
2006-02-25 17:50 ` Bo Andresen
@ 2006-02-28 12:13 ` Bo Andresen
2006-02-28 13:39 ` Bo Andresen
2006-02-28 20:31 ` Benno Schulenberg
0 siblings, 2 replies; 40+ messages in thread
From: Bo Andresen @ 2006-02-28 12:13 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Saturday 25 February 2006 18:50, Bo Andresen wrote:
> On Saturday 25 February 2006 00:36, Benno Schulenberg wrote:
> > But it's working now. So tell us how many frames glxgears is doing
> > now, with and without radeon. :)
>
> Actually the results using dri is worse than the results without dri in
> terms of frame rates. Without dri I get something like 250 FPS. With dri I
> get something like 228 FPS. The great difference though is when looking at
> the X cpu usage. glxgears uses around 0.5 % with or without dri. But
> without dri X uses 92% of the cpu resources. With dri X uses between 0.5
> and 1% cpu. So obviously dri is preferable... ;)
Either something is seriously wrong with my settings somehow or x11-drm is
really crappy. A have no idea.. Fact is yesterday I was forces to boot back
in to my previous kernel since the one I created for x11-drm (i.e. with dri
disabled in the kernel configuration) failed me. The previous kernel had dri
compiled as modules and I have never had direct rendering working with it...
until now..
I am very surprised by this but it turns out direct rendering is working now
with the kernel modules. And the performance is quite a bit better than
before:
~ $ glxinfo | grep dir
direct rendering: Yes
~ $ glxgears
6057 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1211.400 FPS
7273 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1454.600 FPS
7268 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1453.600 FPS
7275 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1455.000 FPS
7274 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1454.800 FPS
7275 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1455.000 FPS
7268 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1453.600 FPS
7275 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1455.000 FPS
7272 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1454.400 FPS
7201 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1440.200 FPS
7259 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1451.800 FPS
7270 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1454.000 FPS
7272 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1454.400 FPS
I am clueless as to why this is working now when it wasn't before...
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* Re: [gentoo-user] 3d rendering with dri radeon
2006-02-28 12:13 ` Bo Andresen
@ 2006-02-28 13:39 ` Bo Andresen
2006-02-28 20:31 ` Benno Schulenberg
1 sibling, 0 replies; 40+ messages in thread
From: Bo Andresen @ 2006-02-28 13:39 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Tuesday 28 February 2006 13:13, Bo Andresen wrote:
> I am very surprised by this but it turns out direct rendering is working
> now with the kernel modules. And the performance is quite a bit better than
> before:
[SNIP]
Well, when I conducted the tests that yielded a performance of 228 FPS with
dri I forgot that I had F@H running in the background. This makes the whole
difference in performance. By starting that service I get down to the same
lousy framerates with dri from the kernel and by stopping it again the
performance goes up again.
So all in all the performance without F@H and with dri is 5-6 times better
without F@H and without dri.
> I am clueless as to why this is working now when it wasn't before...
This still does not explain why this is working now when it wasn't before I
compiled a kernel without dri and emerged x11-drm. But hey, it works... ;)
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* Re: [gentoo-user] 3d rendering with dri radeon
2006-02-28 12:13 ` Bo Andresen
2006-02-28 13:39 ` Bo Andresen
@ 2006-02-28 20:31 ` Benno Schulenberg
2006-02-28 21:16 ` Bo Andresen
1 sibling, 1 reply; 40+ messages in thread
From: Benno Schulenberg @ 2006-02-28 20:31 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Bo Andresen wrote:
> The previous kernel had dri compiled as
> modules and I have never had direct rendering working with it...
> until now..
>
> I am very surprised by this but it turns out direct rendering is
> working now with the kernel modules.
Are you certain that the radeon module being used is the one from
that old kernel and not the one from x11-drm? If not that, maybe
you changed something in xorg.conf? What versions of kernel, BTW?
Benno
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* Re: [gentoo-user] 3d rendering with dri radeon
2006-02-26 5:56 ` Richard Fish
@ 2006-02-28 20:36 ` Benno Schulenberg
2006-03-01 16:30 ` Bruce Burden
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From: Benno Schulenberg @ 2006-02-28 20:36 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Richard Fish wrote:
> On 2/25/06, Bruce Burden <brucegb@realtime.net> wrote:
> > BoardName "RV350 [MOBILITY RADEON X600]"
>
> The opensource xorg/kernel drivers do not support DRI with this
> chip.
But they are working on it. If someone wishes to try it out,
upgrade to modular Xorg (7.0), and get the drivers from CVS.
See http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/Building.
Benno
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* Re: [gentoo-user] 3d rendering with dri radeon
2006-02-28 20:31 ` Benno Schulenberg
@ 2006-02-28 21:16 ` Bo Andresen
2006-02-28 22:16 ` Benno Schulenberg
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From: Bo Andresen @ 2006-02-28 21:16 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Tuesday 28 February 2006 21:31, Benno Schulenberg wrote:
> Bo Andresen wrote:
> > The previous kernel had dri compiled as
> > modules and I have never had direct rendering working with it...
> > until now..
> >
> > I am very surprised by this but it turns out direct rendering is
> > working now with the kernel modules.
>
> Are you certain that the radeon module being used is the one from
> that old kernel and not the one from x11-drm?
I am very certain... but then again, I've been so before in this thread and
yet been terribly wrong. Do you think there is any way to check it? Other
than by compiling a new kernel with the same kernel configuration.
> If not that, maybe
> you changed something in xorg.conf?
Sad to say I don't remember anymore.
> What versions of kernel, BTW?
Kernel version has not changed - 2.6.15-r1.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] 3d rendering with dri radeon
2006-02-28 21:16 ` Bo Andresen
@ 2006-02-28 22:16 ` Benno Schulenberg
2006-02-28 22:57 ` Bo Andresen
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From: Benno Schulenberg @ 2006-02-28 22:16 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Bo Andresen wrote:
> On Tuesday 28 February 2006 21:31, Benno Schulenberg wrote:
> > Are you certain that the radeon module being used is the one
> > from that old kernel and not the one from x11-drm?
>
> I am very certain... but then again, I've been so before in this
> thread and yet been terribly wrong. Do you think there is any way
> to check it?
Yes. Unmerge x11-drm, reboot, and see if it still works. :)
> Kernel version has not changed - 2.6.15-r1.
Yeah, then it's the x11-drm radeon module you're using, not the one
from the kernel. If it had been a diffent version (2.6.14, say),
the module would have been in a different subdir in /lib/modules and
wouldn't get used.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] 3d rendering with dri radeon
2006-02-28 22:16 ` Benno Schulenberg
@ 2006-02-28 22:57 ` Bo Andresen
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From: Bo Andresen @ 2006-02-28 22:57 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
While the two kernels are the same version from portage they have of course
different EXTRAVERSION. For the kernel I compiled for dri I simply added
'-dri' to EXTRAVERSION. So when running uname -r it yielded 2.6.15-r1-dri.
The previous kernel which I am running now lacks the '-dri'.
On Tuesday 28 February 2006 23:16, Benno Schulenberg wrote:
> Bo Andresen wrote:
> > On Tuesday 28 February 2006 21:31, Benno Schulenberg wrote:
> > > Are you certain that the radeon module being used is the one
> > > from that old kernel and not the one from x11-drm?
> >
> > I am very certain... but then again, I've been so before in this
> > thread and yet been terribly wrong. Do you think there is any way
> > to check it?
>
> Yes. Unmerge x11-drm, reboot, and see if it still works. :)
Unmerging x11-drm does not remove the kernel due to CONFIG_PROTECT.
--- cfgpro obj /lib/modules/2.6.15-gentoo-r1-dri/x11-drm/radeon.ko
--- cfgpro obj /lib/modules/2.6.15-gentoo-r1-dri/x11-drm/r128.ko
--- cfgpro obj /lib/modules/2.6.15-gentoo-r1-dri/x11-drm/mach64.ko
--- cfgpro obj /lib/modules/2.6.15-gentoo-r1-dri/x11-drm/drm.ko
--- cfgpro dir /lib/modules/2.6.15-gentoo-r1-dri/x11-drm
I do, however, believe that this output proves that I am not running the
x11-drm modules since it does contain '-dri'.
> > Kernel version has not changed - 2.6.15-r1.
>
> Yeah, then it's the x11-drm radeon module you're using, not the one
> from the kernel. If it had been a diffent version (2.6.14, say),
> the module would have been in a different subdir in /lib/modules and
> wouldn't get used.
I'm not really sure what you by this. Why does that mean that I'm using the
x11-drm modules?
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* Re: [gentoo-user] 3d rendering with dri radeon
2006-02-28 20:36 ` Benno Schulenberg
@ 2006-03-01 16:30 ` Bruce Burden
2006-03-02 2:48 ` Bob Sanders
0 siblings, 1 reply; 40+ messages in thread
From: Bruce Burden @ 2006-03-01 16:30 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 09:36:05PM +0100, Benno Schulenberg wrote:
> Richard Fish wrote:
> > On 2/25/06, Bruce Burden <brucegb@realtime.net> wrote:
> > > BoardName "RV350 [MOBILITY RADEON X600]"
> >
> > The opensource xorg/kernel drivers do not support DRI with this
> > chip.
>
> But they are working on it. If someone wishes to try it out,
> upgrade to modular Xorg (7.0), and get the drivers from CVS.
> See http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/Building.
>
What the heck, I have nothing to lose, since the
fglrx driver hangs xdm and anything else that uses it
(glx*), and the current open doesn't support the chip...
My real issue is that fglrx worked under Suse 9.2,
and not under Gentoo. But, no, I am NOT going back. Try
installing xfishtank under Suse...
Bruce
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* Re: [gentoo-user] 3d rendering with dri radeon
2006-03-01 16:30 ` Bruce Burden
@ 2006-03-02 2:48 ` Bob Sanders
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From: Bob Sanders @ 2006-03-02 2:48 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Wed, 1 Mar 2006 10:30:48 -0600
Bruce Burden <brucegb@realtime.net> wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 09:36:05PM +0100, Benno Schulenberg wrote:
> My real issue is that fglrx worked under Suse 9.2,
> and not under Gentoo. But, no, I am NOT going back. Try
> installing xfishtank under Suse...
>
By chance have you insured that -
/usr/lib/libGL.la is symlinked to /usr/lib/opengl/ati/lib/libGL.la?
Just asking as neither opengl-update nor eselect opengl set will create the
link.
Bob
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